Black man "goes to war" on City Hall, killing 5

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    What's really disturbing about this case is his family's attitude. His brother practically excuses him for committing this atrocity as if he had some kind of right to "go to war" and kill city employees.

     
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    right up the road.


    horrible, horrible news.
     
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    Damn that's close.

    What's the general feeling there about what the brother said?
     
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    Check out these quotes:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/09/us/09missouri.html?ref=todayspaper

    Mr. Thornton was black, and several residents of Kirkwood’s poor and mostly black Meachum Park neighborhood said Friday that the attack at City Hall was a sharp reminder of the racial division they say has plagued the city for decades. They were not willing to condemn Mr. Thornton, a Meachum Park resident, for what he had done.

    "We are grieved, we are sorry, but they share in the responsibility,” Ben Gordon, a black man from nearby Webster Groves, said of city officials. “Cookie Thornton is to me a hero. I don’t condone murder. But as long as there is this separation, you’ll see more of this.”

    Mr. Gordon spoke at a standing-room-only meeting in Meachum Park that had been called to talk about the killings. While no one else at the meeting was as outspoken as he, many expressed a frustration with what they called a double standard for black and white residents of Kirkwood. They said they thought Charles Thornton lost his tolerance of that reality.

    “Cookie had anguish built up in him for the neighborhood,” said Charles Reynolds, a childhood friend.

    Others in the city did not give the Meachum Park residents much support for their theory.

    “They were all dedicated public servants,” Mr. Jones, the former mayor, said of the victims. “They were all very caring people, and Mr. Thornton, who we’ve known since he was in high school, felt he was being ill-treated by the city. That was not the style of the city or the Council members. They did not go into these types of things heavy-handed. It was unbelievable that Cookie Thornton thought he was being persecuted.”
     
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    In other words, it's whites' fault that... a black man opened fire and killed whites.

    Hey, white guy at your computer in the suburbs with me: You think something might be wrong here? You have some questions about this, eh? You think you could be next, and don't like the idea? You're not alone.

    http://www.amren.com/conference/2008/index.html

    As they say in Lord of the Rings, "Open war is upon us."
     
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    All you gun loving folks had better take some time off, TODAY, and go check you guns. Make sure that they can't be used by anyone who shouldn't have access to them.

    We now have FIVE incidences, in the last couple of days, where guns were in the wrong hands.. Helping to keep them out of the wrong hands is our job... Saying it isn't our business is going to make it easy for Hillary, Oprah, and the rest of the left wing dipshits to make it a primary target this election, and afterwards (God Forbid).

    The nut case who shot the Mayor, and the rest of the people, evidently had some bad moral values, and his family too.. His brother, who did seam to exonerate the murderer's actions is proof.:cuckoo:
     
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    The most disturbing part of this whole sad event is the obvious feeling within the black community that it was justified. This is not the old west. Never is a murder justified. That type of thinking is dangerous beyond words. It makes public employees everywhere rethink their careers.

    Do our job and get killed. Pretty Sad!
     
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    it's not like there is rioting in the streets of stl. Those people who side with the killer were going to do so REGARDLESS of the facts. I could extrapolate that to another mid east example but i'm sure id be called an antisemite.


    as far as the gun rights are concerned.... tools, like anything else, don't pull their own trigger. The midigating factor here was a nutter lashing out against perceived persecution, not some scourge of gun violence. During the same period of the above mentioned FIVE negative gun stories I guarantee more people died from a car being driven. I think reasonable people can figure this out.
     
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    Objectively speaking this defence of the killer's actions is simple rationalistion. It's a distasteful and disturbing rationalisation. It reminds me of the "OJ is not guilty" mindset.

    Now, how did things get like this?
     

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