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Your statements are disingenuous, BAC. Republicans proudly took up the cause and marched off to the murderous battlefields dying in the hundreds of thousands to free the black man from slavery and make them fully participating equal citizens. Yet, even still with all of that, after the Civil War, Democrat racists immediately began to devise methods of limiting and denying the civil liberties of black people. One of the tools Democrats moved to utilize to control and safeguard the old racist societal order was the white Democrat racist legal system.
Have you forgotten of the recent whitewashing circa 1960's, southern democrats? Surely not, BAC.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/149836-republicans-the-real-allies-of-african-americans.html
And the Republican Party began as an anti-slavery party .. and at one time nearly all African-Americans were republicans .. all MEANINGLESS today. Completely and totally MEANINGLESS.
What's your point?
And the Republican Party began as an anti-slavery party .. and at one time nearly all African-Americans were republicans .. all MEANINGLESS today. Completely and totally MEANINGLESS.
What's your point?
So you didn't bother to read the whole thread right?
Another McCain malcontent. He needs to hitch his wagon to a national figure who isn't a loser.
McCain has represented Arizona in the Senate since 1987. Don't the people of Arizona get to decide who their representative is, or does the Tea party decide?
For folks who profess strict adherence to the Constitution, you have not problem ignoring it when it doesn't fit your agenda, or the candidate won't pass your 'purity test'. What next, 2nd amendment solutions?
"What is true of every member of the society, individually, is true of them all collectively; since the rights of the whole can be no more than the sum of the rights of the individuals." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:455, Papers 15:393
McCain's flacks, like McCain, spend most of their time attacking other Republicans. They have to answer for that.
And the Republican Party began as an anti-slavery party .. and at one time nearly all African-Americans were republicans .. all MEANINGLESS today. Completely and totally MEANINGLESS.
What's your point?
Not meaningless, you're generalizing. There are racists in all ideologies. I know that you know that BAC.
i've been talking to several teabaggers since they were part of the ron paul "movement." i tell them the same thing i'm saying to you.
Overt racism is not allowed in the democratic party. No secret why african-americans support them, even though i don't. No secret why democrats are the party of choice for almost all american minorities.
You have no argument about gays given the perspectives of democrats vs republicans. No argument at all.
The long and ugly-ass history of racism and hate of everything by the right-wing is no secret and the right-wing is among you. You cannot disavow them, you cannot reject them because you need their numbers.
My perception of the tea party comes up-close and personal.
your statements are disingenuous, bac. Republicans proudly took up the cause and marched off to the murderous battlefields dying in the hundreds of thousands to free the black man from slavery and make them fully participating equal citizens. Yet, even still with all of that, after the civil war, democrat racists immediately began to devise methods of limiting and denying the civil liberties of black people. One of the tools democrats moved to utilize to control and safeguard the old racist societal order was the white democrat racist legal system.
Have you forgotten of the recent whitewashing circa 1960's, southern democrats? Surely not, bac.
you have no understanding of history. The two parties today bear no resemblance to the parties at the time of the civil war. You are aware that abraham lincoln was a liberal i hope? And the dixiecrats of the 60's are now the republican southern conservatives. Read up on nixon and his 'southern strategy'
I started this thread partly becouse of you, Read it quit showing you're ignorance
http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/149836-republicans-the-real-allies-of-african-americans.html
Not interested in your thread, not interested in your perspective.
If you have a question, then ask it .. else ...
I'm sad for you... thats close minded, if you don't want to learn or debate, there is no hope for you.
your statements are disingenuous, bac. Republicans proudly took up the cause and marched off to the murderous battlefields dying in the hundreds of thousands to free the black man from slavery and make them fully participating equal citizens. Yet, even still with all of that, after the civil war, democrat racists immediately began to devise methods of limiting and denying the civil liberties of black people. One of the tools democrats moved to utilize to control and safeguard the old racist societal order was the white democrat racist legal system.
Have you forgotten of the recent whitewashing circa 1960's, southern democrats? Surely not, bac.
you have no understanding of history. The two parties today bear no resemblance to the parties at the time of the civil war. You are aware that abraham lincoln was a liberal i hope? And the dixiecrats of the 60's are now the republican southern conservatives. Read up on nixon and his 'southern strategy'
you're wrong!!..read my thread
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That said, I have no issue with you or anyone else outing Racism wherever you find it. There are many forms it takes. Try to remember that.
These people have the right to their beliefs. But not the right to say they know what most Americans believe. They are very naive and ignore so many dangers to a free and open society, that they are really dangerous to this nation. There are some beliefs they expound that all Americans can agree on. But there are many trap doors they are totally oblivious to. Corporations and their power to buy legislation that makes wrong 'lawful' is the most obvious. They have a naive belief that if government just gets out of the way America will be a utopia. History says it will be a nightmare for all but the wealthiest elite. We tried unregulated corporations from the Civil War through the turn of the 19th century. It was called the Gilded age.
Our founding fathers created a entity to address the common good of the people...they called it government.
The original Tea Party in Boston harbor was a protest over corporate subsidies to the British East India Company...the 1776 version of Walmart.
you have no understanding of history. The two parties today bear no resemblance to the parties at the time of the civil war. You are aware that abraham lincoln was a liberal i hope? And the dixiecrats of the 60's are now the republican southern conservatives. Read up on nixon and his 'southern strategy'
you're wrong!!..read my thread
I read it .. didn't take long to refute it.
We are all entitled to our opinions. The Tea Party is more Madison Federalism, than anti Government. The Corporations you are so much worried about have more ties to Big Government than you and I, Bfgrn, be it by contract or investment. Both are tools of the Oligarchy Class which impose their will on us by contract, fiat, or dictate. Monopolies are joined at the hip with controlling authorities. Your Union seat at that table, may partake in that feast, but it does not rock the boat in supporting change. We suffer in the end. State Capitalism is not the Free Market, nor is the Free Market license to steal, defraud, or pollute. We can have rules that govern impartially without the Government picking the winners and losers in place of merit. Predetermined outcome is not what we are about, fair play is the Referee's focus, integrity of the playing field, not the score board. It started with Hamilton and it hasn't stopped. No Mechanism is of more value than the Purpose it serves. The End does not justify the means. Principle, Value, Ideal, stand on their own. There, Government needs to get out of the way. When Government finds cause to intervene it is in the service of Justice, that means is dictated by necessity and reason, to remedy and restore balance. That power is not unlimited, nor without account and transparency.
Fearing tea party violence, FOUR Arizona Republicans resign
Maybe they should stop believing the bullshit from the liberal media.
Sometimes I respect what you say because you call BS on both sides but this time its gone too far. When four republican politicians resign its not because they watch too much "liberal media" in a predominantly republican state.
you're wrong!!..read my thread
I read it .. didn't take long to refute it.
Please... you didn't refute anything, and you refuse to really discuss the facts. that says something to me. Most Jews in this country are liberal, I learned, and you are unwilling to. Sorry.. you can congratulate yourself all you want, means nothing.
I read it .. didn't take long to refute it.
Please... you didn't refute anything, and you refuse to really discuss the facts. that says something to me. Most Jews in this country are liberal, I learned, and you are unwilling to. Sorry.. you can congratulate yourself all you want, means nothing.
Nor does your silly ass thread mean a damn thing.
You don't have a clue of what you're talking about and you ran from the questions.
As I demonstrated, there are thousands of African-American elected officials. How many of them are republican?
Democrats had more African-Americans in congress in 1968 then republicans will ever have.
You have no answers for that, just ancient history hundreds of years old.
Dude, I told you I had no interest in your thread, I told you I knew that history better than you.
Please... you didn't refute anything, and you refuse to really discuss the facts. that says something to me. Most Jews in this country are liberal, I learned, and you are unwilling to. Sorry.. you can congratulate yourself all you want, means nothing.
Nor does your silly ass thread mean a damn thing.
You don't have a clue of what you're talking about and you ran from the questions.
As I demonstrated, there are thousands of African-American elected officials. How many of them are republican?
Democrats had more African-Americans in congress in 1968 then republicans will ever have.
You have no answers for that, just ancient history hundreds of years old.
Dude, I told you I had no interest in your thread, I told you I knew that history better than you.
So what does that prove? That proves nothing. You can't even tell me what you're party has done for African Americans can you? And the way you just dismiss over 400,000 black babies killed every year is truly pathetic look what you're liberal policies have done to the black family in the inner city I know I've lived it. Please... I'm begging you tell me what you're party has done for African Americans?
You mean besides supporting and helping to elect thousands of African-American legislators .. who were then able to address the problems and agenda of the African-American community?
You mean besides addressing issues like job discrimination, healthcare and housing, open access to opportunity, creating laws and policies that benefit our community .. all isues that republican will not address.
You mean like being in and involved in our communities and our issues?
I've worked for the congress .. the racial makeup of both sides of the aisle is like night and day. Minorities are abundant in every position.
Now you tell me what republicans have done for African-Americans beyond 1965
Really? what problems might that be? leaving them stuck in failing inner city schools with so choice in the matter?
Really? what problems might that be? leaving them stuck in failing inner city schools with so choice in the matter?
Are you laboring under the myth that all African Americans are members of the urban under-class?
Another McCain malcontent. He needs to hitch his wagon to a national figure who isn't a loser.
