Black Congresswoman Shelia Jackson blames BUSH for Fast and Furious!!

[Dick Tuck]

Black Congresswoman Shelia Jackson is an idiot....

Just sayin'....

White Nobody Dr. House is an idiot....

Why use skin color to qualify a person, when it's irrelevant? You sound as bad as the racist who started this post.

 

[Goodoledays]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up". Might work though since the establishment media is always on the dem side.

Two very different programs that did the EXACT SAME THING???? Hello! You guys don't get to make up your own facts. Haven't you figured that out?

How many people did WR kill?

Oh. Looks like they didn't do the EXACT SAME THING then, huh?

And F & F lost control of over 1,400 weapons. How many did WR lose. Guess you are right they are for sure not the same thing.

 

[peach174]

If it's Bush's fault, then the Dem's should have ended the program to begin with and not changed it into another program.

 

[Dr.House]

Black Congresswoman Shelia Jackson is an idiot....

Just sayin'....

White Nobody Dr. House is an idiot....

I have never disclosed my skin color, fuckchop... Way to assume...

Are you related to Black Congresswoman Shelia Jackson? She's an idiot like you...

Why use skin color to qualify a person, when it's irrelevant? You sound as bad as the racist who started this post.

The world would be a better place if idiots like you who claim racism at the drop of a hat would just leave the planet for good... Consider it, won't you?

 

[clevergirl]

I have been saying it for over a year... Obama is

 

[buckeye45_73]

Black Congresswoman Shelia Jackson is an idiot....

Just sayin'....

White Nobody Dr. House is an idiot....

Why use skin color to qualify a person, when it's irrelevant? You sound as bad as the racist who started this post.

Uh because she uses RACE all the time. She's just a mindless moron that got a Yale degree because of affirmative action. No way a person this stupid should have ever gone to Yale.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up"

I stopped reading after this racist BS.

 

[BlindBoo]

We like to believe the truth. Funny, This is the first time Obama has used Executive Privilege, but Bush used it 6 times. Oh, that's right. "Executive Privilege" is for Republican Presidents. Like "reconciliation" is for a Republican congress. I sometimes forget how the rules are different when it's Republicans in office.

Let's go though the rules to make sure I understand them:

1. Executive Privilege can only be used by a Republican President.

2. Reconciliation can only be used by a Republican Congress.

3. When Democrats are successful, Republicans get the credit.

4. When Republican policies fail, they suddenly belong to Democrats.

5. Republicans are not responsible for any of their disasters.

I'm pretty sure I've outlined the first five correctly. I'll get back to you on the rest.

Dean you're oversimplifying, please let us know what Bush did it for. YEah there was the case when Bush fired US attorney. Now, WHY was that a scandal? Presidents cant fire US attorneys and put their own people in?

Clinton fired all 93 in his first week.

Close but not quite!

A Department of Justice list noted that "in 1981, Reagan's first year in office, 71 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys. In 1993, Clinton's first year, 80 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys." Similarly, a Senate study noted that "Reagan replaced 89 of the 93 U.S. attorneys in his first two years in office. President Clinton had 89 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years, and President Bush had 88 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years."[179]

In contrast to the 2006 dismissals, Presidents rarely dismiss U.S. attorneys they appoint.[177][178] Kyle Sampson, Chief of Staff at the Department of Justice, noted in a January 9, 2006, e-mail to Harriet Miers: "In recent memory, during the Reagan and Clinton Administrations, Presidents Reagan and Clinton did not seek to remove and replace U.S. Attorneys they had appointed, but instead permitted such U.S. Attorneys to serve indefinitely under the holdover provision" (underlining original).[180] There is no precedent for a President to dismiss several U.S attorneys at one time while in the middle period of the presidential term in office.[181][182]

Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BlindBoo]

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate

Fast and furious hasn’t been discussed a lot in the mainstream media, which is why the facts can seem so preposterous when you read them for the first time. But the story is slowly unraveling and the public is catching up with the madness. On Wednesday, the The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt over his decision to withhold documents related to the “gun walking” operation – documents that President Obama tried to keep secret by invoking executive privilege. The question of why the Prez intervened in this way will surely hang over the investigation and the White House for many months to come. Be patient, conservatives. It took nearly eight months for the Watergate break in to become a national news story. But when it finally did, it toppled a President.

Here’s what Fast and Furious is all about – and for the uninitiated, be prepared for a shock. In 2009, the US government instructed Arizona gun sellers illegally to sell arms to suspected criminals. Agents working for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) were then ordered not to stop the sales but to allow the arms to “walk” across the border into the arms of Mexican drug-traffickers. According to the Oversight Committee’s report, “The purpose was to wait and watch, in hope that law enforcement could identify other members of a trafficking network and build a large, complex conspiracy case…. [The ATF] initially began using the new gun-walking tactics in one of its investigations to further the Department’s strategy. The case was soon renamed ‘Operation Fast and Furious.”


read more at first link

The right has always tried to equate the worst Republican debacles to the Obama Administration.

Are you sure it's not his "Waterloo" moment?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Dean you're oversimplifying, please let us know what Bush did it for. YEah there was the case when Bush fired US attorney. Now, WHY was that a scandal? Presidents cant fire US attorneys and put their own people in?

Clinton fired all 93 in his first week.

Close but not quite!

A Department of Justice list noted that "in 1981, Reagan's first year in office, 71 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys. In 1993, Clinton's first year, 80 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys." Similarly, a Senate study noted that "Reagan replaced 89 of the 93 U.S. attorneys in his first two years in office. President Clinton had 89 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years, and President Bush had 88 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years."[179]

In contrast to the 2006 dismissals, Presidents rarely dismiss U.S. attorneys they appoint.[177][178] Kyle Sampson, Chief of Staff at the Department of Justice, noted in a January 9, 2006, e-mail to Harriet Miers: "In recent memory, during the Reagan and Clinton Administrations, Presidents Reagan and Clinton did not seek to remove and replace U.S. Attorneys they had appointed, but instead permitted such U.S. Attorneys to serve indefinitely under the holdover provision" (underlining original).[180] There is no precedent for a President to dismiss several U.S attorneys at one time while in the middle period of the presidential term in office.[181][182]

Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From you article, so what was wrong, they wanted people on their team, OH NO....OMG an administration wants people on their team with their policies.

In March 2005, Sampson "came up with a checklist. He rated each of the U.S. Attorneys with criteria that appeared to value political allegiance as much as job performance. He recommended retaining 'strong U.S. Attorneys who have... exhibited loyalty to the President and Attorney General.' He suggested 'removing weak U.S. Attorneys who have... chafed against Administration initiatives'".[59]

Sampson wrote in January 2006 to Miers that he recommended that the Department of Justice and the Office of the Counsel to the President work together to seek the replacement of a limited number of U.S. Attorneys, and that by limiting the number of attorneys "targeted for removal and replacement" it would "mitigat[e] the shock to the system that would result from an across-the-board firing".[58]

 

[BlindBoo]

Clinton fired all 93 in his first week.

Close but not quite!

A Department of Justice list noted that "in 1981, Reagan's first year in office, 71 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys. In 1993, Clinton's first year, 80 of 93 districts had new U.S. attorneys." Similarly, a Senate study noted that "Reagan replaced 89 of the 93 U.S. attorneys in his first two years in office. President Clinton had 89 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years, and President Bush had 88 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years."[179]

In contrast to the 2006 dismissals, Presidents rarely dismiss U.S. attorneys they appoint.[177][178] Kyle Sampson, Chief of Staff at the Department of Justice, noted in a January 9, 2006, e-mail to Harriet Miers: "In recent memory, during the Reagan and Clinton Administrations, Presidents Reagan and Clinton did not seek to remove and replace U.S. Attorneys they had appointed, but instead permitted such U.S. Attorneys to serve indefinitely under the holdover provision" (underlining original).[180] There is no precedent for a President to dismiss several U.S attorneys at one time while in the middle period of the presidential term in office.[181][182]

Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From you article, so what was wrong, they wanted people on their team, OH NO....OMG an administration wants people on their team with their policies.

In March 2005, Sampson "came up with a checklist. He rated each of the U.S. Attorneys with criteria that appeared to value political allegiance as much as job performance. He recommended retaining 'strong U.S. Attorneys who have... exhibited loyalty to the President and Attorney General.' He suggested 'removing weak U.S. Attorneys who have... chafed against Administration initiatives'".[59]

Sampson wrote in January 2006 to Miers that he recommended that the Department of Justice and the Office of the Counsel to the President work together to seek the replacement of a limited number of U.S. Attorneys, and that by limiting the number of attorneys "targeted for removal and replacement" it would "mitigat[e] the shock to the system that would result from an across-the-board firing".[58]

Point of fact. Most all presidents replace the Attorneys appointed by the opposition party at the begining of their terms. So implying President Bush didn't do anything different than Clinton (or Reagan) is specious because the Bush team replaced some of the Attorneys he appointed at the begining of his term. Furthermore the Attorneys serve at the President whim so he had every right to ask for their resignation. The speculation was that they were asked to resign because they were not willing to push the agenda set out by the Bush administration.

 

[BlindBoo]

The fact is that the bulk of the arms used by the Mexican drug cartels did not - and do not originate from gun shop sales in the U.S., but from U.S. government sponsored programs that sell weapons and ammunition to the Mexican military as well as other third-world nations. Many of the weapons used in Mexico actually from Central American countries in programs administered by the Pentagon and with the knowledge and imprimatur of the U.S. State Department.

Confirmation of the government’s programs and knowledge by government officials was made public by the release of State Department cables published by Wikileaks.

All modern American administrations have been involved in that. Think Issa will hold some hearings on that?

 

[asaratis]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up". Might work though since the establishment media is always on the dem side.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee blames Fast and Furious on George W. Bush - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

On Wednesday, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) tried to pin the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal on former President George W. Bush.

“This Fast and Furious debacle started under the Bush administration,” Jackson Lee said. “And it is been evidenced by various reports that it started under the ATL office in Arizona unbeknownst to leadership in Washington DC, at least leadership that came in under the Obama administration in this instance, Eric Holder.”

Not so fast, says Andrew C. McCarthy of National Review Online.

For starters, Fast and Furious did not start until 2009, months after George W. Bush was no longer in the White House.

McCarthy explains that the Democrats' strategy is to conflate two "very different programs."

In this case, the two programs are Operation Fast & Furious and a "Bush era ATF initiative known as 'Operation Wide Receiver.'"

According to McCarthy, "Operation Wide Receiver" involved "not gun-walking but controlled delivery."

He explains that "controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic."

Basically, the agents know the bad guys have negotiated a deal to acquire some commodity that is either illegal itself (e.g., heroin, child porn) or illegal for them to have/use (e.g., guns, corporate secrets). The agents allow the transfer to happen under circumstances where they are in control — i.e., they are on the scene conducting surveillance of the transfer, and sometimes even participating undercover in the transfer. As soon as the transfer takes place, they can descend on the suspects, make arrests, and seize the commodity in question — all of which makes for powerful evidence of guilt.

"Fast and Furious," on the other hand, "involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons."

Sheila Jackson Lee is just another goddamned racist negro...living off the past. Put her in the bag with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, Malcolmb X, John Lewis and others that blame anything and everybody else for every mistake their Messiah makes.

It's called RACE LOYALTY!

 

[Claudette]

Jackson isn't the brightest bulb in the box.

One has to wonder how she ever graduated from Yale.

Don't know what district she reps but man. I can't believe people would elect someone as nauseatingly dumb as her to represent em. Jeeze.

 

[Vast LWC]

Hmmm:

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ran a series of "gunwalking" sting operations between 2006 and 2011. This was done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States. "Gunwalking" or "letting guns walk" was a tactic whereby the ATF knowingly allowed thousands of guns to be bought by suspected arms traffickers ("gunrunners") working through straw purchasers on behalf of Mexican drug cartels...

...The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division. With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border", Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation. These included AR-15s, semi-automatic AK-pattern rifles, and Colt .38s. The vast majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.

Would ya look at that?

Looks like the "Black Woman" has a point after all.

 

[Vast LWC]

And there's more:

Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix field division. It began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months. The probe ultimately involved over 200 guns, a dozen of which were lost in Mexico. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents saw the original suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border. The ATF informed the Mexican government when the suspects successfully crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to track them.

Interesting.

 

[Douger]

Black Congresswoman Shelia Jackson is an idiot....

Just sayin'....

Who elects these retarded chimpanzees ?

 

[Claudette]

Idiots.

 

[asaratis]

Hmmm:

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ran a series of "gunwalking" sting operations between 2006 and 2011. This was done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States. "Gunwalking" or "letting guns walk" was a tactic whereby the ATF knowingly allowed thousands of guns to be bought by suspected arms traffickers ("gunrunners") working through straw purchasers on behalf of Mexican drug cartels...

...The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division. With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border", Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation. These included AR-15s, semi-automatic AK-pattern rifles, and Colt .38s. The vast majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.

Would ya look at that?

Looks like the "Black Woman" has a point after all.

Totally different motives. Totally different operations. Totally different results.

Obama fucked up!

 

[daveman]

Dean you're oversimplifying, please let us know what Bush did it for. YEah there was the case when Bush fired US attorney. Now, WHY was that a scandal? Presidents cant fire US attorneys and put their own people in?

Clinton fired all 93 in his first week.

It's actually normal. Do you understand how government works? Do you want me to explain it or do you prefer ignorance?

Try to figure out the difference between at the beginning of the term and in the middle. If you need help, write me a note.

It doesn't matter when the attorneys are fired. You're just desperate to pretend it's bad when Republicans do it and good when Democrats do.