Black Congresswoman Shelia Jackson blames BUSH for Fast and Furious!!

[clevergirl]

No, the "white" half of Obama

Obama is a white African American

I wonder if he has a race war going on inside. Maybe one side Panthers, the other Klan, is that why he always looks so tired?

Nah, it's his white upper middle class liberal guilt that bedevils him~

 

[oreo]

Despicable! Yet liberals will believe it!

Blame Bush will be their slogan in 2016!

Yeah for the last 4 years--BOOOSH is to blame for anything and everything. Of course their LEADER--kind of promotes it.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Apes are smarter than Sheila Jackson.

 

[daveman]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up". Might work though since the establishment media is always on the dem side.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee blames Fast and Furious on George W. Bush - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

On Wednesday, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) tried to pin the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal on former President George W. Bush.

“This Fast and Furious debacle started under the Bush administration,” Jackson Lee said. “And it is been evidenced by various reports that it started under the ATL office in Arizona unbeknownst to leadership in Washington DC, at least leadership that came in under the Obama administration in this instance, Eric Holder.”

Not so fast, says Andrew C. McCarthy of National Review Online.

For starters, Fast and Furious did not start until 2009, months after George W. Bush was no longer in the White House.

McCarthy explains that the Democrats' strategy is to conflate two "very different programs."

In this case, the two programs are Operation Fast & Furious and a "Bush era ATF initiative known as 'Operation Wide Receiver.'"

According to McCarthy, "Operation Wide Receiver" involved "not gun-walking but controlled delivery."

He explains that "controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic."

Basically, the agents know the bad guys have negotiated a deal to acquire some commodity that is either illegal itself (e.g., heroin, child porn) or illegal for them to have/use (e.g., guns, corporate secrets). The agents allow the transfer to happen under circumstances where they are in control — i.e., they are on the scene conducting surveillance of the transfer, and sometimes even participating undercover in the transfer. As soon as the transfer takes place, they can descend on the suspects, make arrests, and seize the commodity in question — all of which makes for powerful evidence of guilt.

"Fast and Furious," on the other hand, "involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons."

Two very different programs that did the EXACT SAME THING???? Hello! You guys don't get to make up your own facts. Haven't you figured that out?

How many people did WR kill?

Oh. Looks like they didn't do the EXACT SAME THING then, huh?

 

[daveman]

Despicable! Yet liberals will believe it!

Blame Bush will be their slogan in 2016!

We like to believe the truth. Funny, This is the first time Obama has used Executive Privilege, but Bush used it 6 times. Oh, that's right. "Executive Privilege" is for Republican Presidents. Like "reconciliation" is for a Republican congress. I sometimes forget how the rules are different when it's Republicans in office.

Let's go though the rules to make sure I understand them:

1. Executive Privilege can only be used by a Republican President.

2. Reconciliation can only be used by a Republican Congress.

3. When Democrats are successful, Republicans get the credit.

4. When Republican policies fail, they suddenly belong to Democrats.

5. Republicans are not responsible for any of their disasters.

I'm pretty sure I've outlined the first five correctly. I'll get back to you on the rest.

You left out your favorite rule:

"My lord Obama can do no wrong."

 

[rdean]

We like to believe the truth. Funny, This is the first time Obama has used Executive Privilege, but Bush used it 6 times. Oh, that's right. "Executive Privilege" is for Republican Presidents. Like "reconciliation" is for a Republican congress. I sometimes forget how the rules are different when it's Republicans in office.

Let's go though the rules to make sure I understand them:

1. Executive Privilege can only be used by a Republican President.

2. Reconciliation can only be used by a Republican Congress.

3. When Democrats are successful, Republicans get the credit.

4. When Republican policies fail, they suddenly belong to Democrats.

5. Republicans are not responsible for any of their disasters.

I'm pretty sure I've outlined the first five correctly. I'll get back to you on the rest.

Dean you're oversimplifying, please let us know what Bush did it for. YEah there was the case when Bush fired US attorney. Now, WHY was that a scandal? Presidents cant fire US attorneys and put their own people in?

Clinton fired all 93 in his first week.

It's actually normal. Do you understand how government works? Do you want me to explain it or do you prefer ignorance?

Try to figure out the difference between at the beginning of the term and in the middle. If you need help, write me a note.

 

[clevergirl]

Despicable! Yet liberals will believe it!

Blame Bush will be their slogan in 2016!

We like to believe the truth. Funny, This is the first time Obama has used Executive Privilege, but Bush used it 6 times. Oh, that's right. "Executive Privilege" is for Republican Presidents. Like "reconciliation" is for a Republican congress. I sometimes forget how the rules are different when it's Republicans in office.

Let's go though the rules to make sure I understand them:

1. Executive Privilege can only be used by a Republican President.

2. Reconciliation can only be used by a Republican Congress.

3. When Democrats are successful, Republicans get the credit.

4. When Republican policies fail, they suddenly belong to Democrats.

5. Republicans are not responsible for any of their disasters.

I'm pretty sure I've outlined the first five correctly. I'll get back to you on the rest.

Oh the President can claim Executive Privilege.

The problem with this scenario is why would he exert EP over documents he is purported never to have seen?

Rock and a hard place. If the President was never involved in any of the Fast and Furious operation, he wouldn't need to use EP.

Senator Grassley puts it quite well:

" His statement is this: "The assertion of executive privilege raises monumental questions. How can the president assert executive privilege if there was no White House involvement?"

He is protecting the AG- but I think himself as well. He quipped about getting gun control legislation passed "under the radar" to Sarah Brady, prior to Fast and Furious being unmasked. Inflating the notion that gun trafficking was an out of control problem on the boarder was his under the radar ticket...of course no one could know his admin was creating the trafficking.

 

[clevergirl]

The Fast and Furious scandal is turning into President Obama's Watergate

Fast and furious hasn’t been discussed a lot in the mainstream media, which is why the facts can seem so preposterous when you read them for the first time. But the story is slowly unraveling and the public is catching up with the madness. On Wednesday, the The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt over his decision to withhold documents related to the “gun walking” operation – documents that President Obama tried to keep secret by invoking executive privilege. The question of why the Prez intervened in this way will surely hang over the investigation and the White House for many months to come. Be patient, conservatives. It took nearly eight months for the Watergate break in to become a national news story. But when it finally did, it toppled a President.

Here’s what Fast and Furious is all about – and for the uninitiated, be prepared for a shock. In 2009, the US government instructed Arizona gun sellers illegally to sell arms to suspected criminals. Agents working for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) were then ordered not to stop the sales but to allow the arms to “walk” across the border into the arms of Mexican drug-traffickers. According to the Oversight Committee’s report, “The purpose was to wait and watch, in hope that law enforcement could identify other members of a trafficking network and build a large, complex conspiracy case…. [The ATF] initially began using the new gun-walking tactics in one of its investigations to further the Department’s strategy. The case was soon renamed ‘Operation Fast and Furious.”


read more at first link

 

[clevergirl]

First, the Supreme Court in United States v. Nixon (1974) held that executive privilege cannot be invoked at all if the purpose is to shield wrongdoing. The courts held that [President] Nixon’s purported invocation of executive privilege was illegitimate, in part, for that reason. There is reason to suspect that this might be the case in the Fast and Furious cover-up and stonewalling effort. Congress needs to get to the bottom of that question to prevent an illegal invocation of executive privilege and further abuses of power. That will require an index of the withheld documents and an explanation of why each of them is covered by executive privilege—and more.

 

[clevergirl]

[T]he President is required when invoking executive privilege to try to accommodate the other branches’ legitimate information needs in some other way. For example, it does not harm executive power for the President to selectively waive executive privilege in most instances, even if it hurts him politically by exposing a terrible policy failure or wrongdoing among his staff. The history of executive–congressional relations is filled with accommodations and waivers of privilege. In contrast to voluntary waivers of privilege, Watergate demonstrates that wrongful invocations of privilege can seriously damage the office of the presidency when Congress and the courts impose new constraints on the President’s discretion or power (some rightful and some not

link

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up". Might work though since the establishment media is always on the dem side.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee blames Fast and Furious on George W. Bush - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

On Wednesday, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) tried to pin the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal on former President George W. Bush.

“This Fast and Furious debacle started under the Bush administration,” Jackson Lee said. “And it is been evidenced by various reports that it started under the ATL office in Arizona unbeknownst to leadership in Washington DC, at least leadership that came in under the Obama administration in this instance, Eric Holder.”

Not so fast, says Andrew C. McCarthy of National Review Online.

For starters, Fast and Furious did not start until 2009, months after George W. Bush was no longer in the White House.

McCarthy explains that the Democrats' strategy is to conflate two "very different programs."

In this case, the two programs are Operation Fast & Furious and a "Bush era ATF initiative known as 'Operation Wide Receiver.'"

According to McCarthy, "Operation Wide Receiver" involved "not gun-walking but controlled delivery."

He explains that "controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic."

Basically, the agents know the bad guys have negotiated a deal to acquire some commodity that is either illegal itself (e.g., heroin, child porn) or illegal for them to have/use (e.g., guns, corporate secrets). The agents allow the transfer to happen under circumstances where they are in control — i.e., they are on the scene conducting surveillance of the transfer, and sometimes even participating undercover in the transfer. As soon as the transfer takes place, they can descend on the suspects, make arrests, and seize the commodity in question — all of which makes for powerful evidence of guilt.

"Fast and Furious," on the other hand, "involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons."

I have 2 things to say about your post:

1) To blame Bush for a part of a program, that part being fast and furious, which started after Bush left office is dishonest

2) Why does it matter that the congresswomen is black? I just don't get why you tossed that out there, it really didn't add to your thread. I'm not sure why you turned it into a racial thing, makes no sense from my keyboard

 

[NLT]

 

[Darkwind]

It makes you want to go door to door and just slap the shit out of each of her constituents.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up". Might work though since the establishment media is always on the dem side.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee blames Fast and Furious on George W. Bush - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

On Wednesday, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) tried to pin the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal on former President George W. Bush.

“This Fast and Furious debacle started under the Bush administration,” Jackson Lee said. “And it is been evidenced by various reports that it started under the ATL office in Arizona unbeknownst to leadership in Washington DC, at least leadership that came in under the Obama administration in this instance, Eric Holder.”

Not so fast, says Andrew C. McCarthy of National Review Online.

For starters, Fast and Furious did not start until 2009, months after George W. Bush was no longer in the White House.

McCarthy explains that the Democrats' strategy is to conflate two "very different programs."

In this case, the two programs are Operation Fast & Furious and a "Bush era ATF initiative known as 'Operation Wide Receiver.'"

According to McCarthy, "Operation Wide Receiver" involved "not gun-walking but controlled delivery."

He explains that "controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic."

Basically, the agents know the bad guys have negotiated a deal to acquire some commodity that is either illegal itself (e.g., heroin, child porn) or illegal for them to have/use (e.g., guns, corporate secrets). The agents allow the transfer to happen under circumstances where they are in control — i.e., they are on the scene conducting surveillance of the transfer, and sometimes even participating undercover in the transfer. As soon as the transfer takes place, they can descend on the suspects, make arrests, and seize the commodity in question — all of which makes for powerful evidence of guilt.

"Fast and Furious," on the other hand, "involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons."

Very big difference between the two programs. Also I heard wide receiver was started without bush knowing about it. and stopped when they found out it wasn't working
Basically, the agents know the bad guys have negotiated a deal to acquire some commodity that is either illegal itself (e.g., heroin, child porn) or illegal for them to have/use (e.g., guns, corporate secrets). The agents allow the transfer to happen under circumstances where they are in control — i.e., they are on the scene conducting surveillance of the transfer, and sometimes even participating undercover in the transfer. As soon as the transfer takes place, they can descend on the suspects, make arrests, and seize the commodity in question — all of which makes for powerful evidence of guilt.

"Fast and Furious," on the other hand, "involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons."

 

[clevergirl]

Liberals will try and pretend this operation that began in mid-2009 is connected to former President George W. Bush’s administration. The media should challenge this false assertion. Operation Wide Receiver in 2006 did not remotely resemble Fast and Furious, as National Review’s Andrew McCarthy has ably examined. Mexico helped coordinate it, and there was traceable controlled delivery. Even Holder admitted in testimony that you cannot “equate the two.”

link

 

[AmericanFirst]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up". Might work though since the establishment media is always on the dem side.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee blames Fast and Furious on George W. Bush - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

On Wednesday, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) tried to pin the Fast and Furious gun-walking scandal on former President George W. Bush.

“This Fast and Furious debacle started under the Bush administration,” Jackson Lee said. “And it is been evidenced by various reports that it started under the ATL office in Arizona unbeknownst to leadership in Washington DC, at least leadership that came in under the Obama administration in this instance, Eric Holder.”

Not so fast, says Andrew C. McCarthy of National Review Online.

For starters, Fast and Furious did not start until 2009, months after George W. Bush was no longer in the White House.

McCarthy explains that the Democrats' strategy is to conflate two "very different programs."

In this case, the two programs are Operation Fast & Furious and a "Bush era ATF initiative known as 'Operation Wide Receiver.'"

According to McCarthy, "Operation Wide Receiver" involved "not gun-walking but controlled delivery."

He explains that "controlled delivery is a very common law enforcement tactic."

Basically, the agents know the bad guys have negotiated a deal to acquire some commodity that is either illegal itself (e.g., heroin, child porn) or illegal for them to have/use (e.g., guns, corporate secrets). The agents allow the transfer to happen under circumstances where they are in control — i.e., they are on the scene conducting surveillance of the transfer, and sometimes even participating undercover in the transfer. As soon as the transfer takes place, they can descend on the suspects, make arrests, and seize the commodity in question — all of which makes for powerful evidence of guilt.

"Fast and Furious," on the other hand, "involved uncontrolled deliveries — of thousands of weapons."

Two very different programs that did the EXACT SAME THING???? Hello! You guys don't get to make up your own facts. Haven't you figured that out?

You dimwits make up your own intelligence every day. Idiot.

 

[AmericanFirst]

No, the "white" half of Obama

Obama is a white African American

I wonder if he has a race war going on inside. Maybe one side Panthers, the other Klan, is that why he always looks so tired?

Maybe that is why he is such an idiot.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Oh the Mars Pathfinder story is hysterical.

“The Congressional bonehead award goes to Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) who, on a visit to JPL, asked if Mars Pathfinder had taken an image of the flag planted there in 1969 by Neil Armstrong!

Quipped Rep. Vernon Ehlers (R-MI) to the Washington Times: “We just don’t teach enough science.”

Version i heard had sheila saying LOUIE Armstrong.

 

[Goodoledays]

Despicable! Yet liberals will believe it!

Blame Bush will be their slogan in 2016!

In 2016? More like for life.

 

[clevergirl]

Another example of "blame white people when blacks screw up". Might work though since the establishment media is always on the dem side.

Two very different programs that did the EXACT SAME THING???? Hello! You guys don't get to make up your own facts. Haven't you figured that out?

You dimwits make up your own intelligence every day. Idiot.

No they ignore truth everyday.

Liberals will try and pretend this operation that began in mid-2009 is connected to former President George W. Bush’s administration. The media should challenge this false assertion. Operation Wide Receiver in 2006 did not remotely resemble Fast and Furious, as National Review’s Andrew McCarthy has ably examined. Mexico helped coordinate it, and there was traceable controlled delivery. Even Holder admitted in testimony that you cannot “equate the two.”