Birth of the People's Party

[Midnight Marauder]

With Obama in the White House, you're going to see maybe about 10 people show up for that. There are no "Stop The Wars" people anymore.

Closer to 10,000.

If Booooosh were still in office, you would see maybe 1,000 and the MSM would claim 10,000.

With Obama in office? If 10,000 showed up, if it got any coverage at all, the MSM would be saying, "Hundreds showed up to protest..."

 

[georgephillip]

Damn those Obama tax cuts for the rich!

"It gets worse.

"Obama’s 'Bush' tax cut is only Part I of a one-two punch to shift taxes onto wage earners. Congressional economists estimate that extending the tax cuts to the top 2 per cent will cost $700 to $750 billion over the next decade or so...

"The political axiom at work is 'Big fish eat little fish.'

"There’s not enough tax money to continue swelling the fortunes of the super-rich pretending to save enough to pay the pensions and related social support that North American and European employees have been promised.

"Something must give –"

Schoolteachers or Wall Street bankers?

Whose side are you on?

I'm on the side of NOT raising taxes on anyone and not having any NEW taxes until we get Gramm-Rudmann and line-item veto back, otherwise they will just SPEND any extra they get!

The REAL problem by the way, isn't revenue or spending. It's the IDIOTIC projections of revenue which are always WAY too rosy, which they base their spending on. When the projected revenue doesn't show up as expected, you have a large deficit. Then the howls for increasing taxes begin anew, and the cycle continues.

Example: The $700-750 billion figure being bandied around? Cut that IN HALF as a projection, and base your spending on that figure. NOT the over-inflated, exaggerated one.

Are you in favor of further tax cuts?

The big divide between your side and mine seems to be whether we face primarily a revenue or spending problem.

Would you agree?

 

[Wicked Jester]

With Obama in the White House, you're going to see maybe about 10 people show up for that. There are no "Stop The Wars" people anymore.

Closer to 10,000.

Oh really?.......Better check your address, dude.

You didn't even get the city right.

Is Rochelle Candy gonna be there?

Oh, that's right, she got squished by a bulldozer......My bad, NEEEEVER MIIIIIND!

 

[Midnight Marauder]

"It gets worse.

"Obama’s 'Bush' tax cut is only Part I of a one-two punch to shift taxes onto wage earners. Congressional economists estimate that extending the tax cuts to the top 2 per cent will cost $700 to $750 billion over the next decade or so...

"The political axiom at work is 'Big fish eat little fish.'

"There’s not enough tax money to continue swelling the fortunes of the super-rich pretending to save enough to pay the pensions and related social support that North American and European employees have been promised.

"Something must give –"

Schoolteachers or Wall Street bankers?

Whose side are you on?

I'm on the side of NOT raising taxes on anyone and not having any NEW taxes until we get Gramm-Rudmann and line-item veto back, otherwise they will just SPEND any extra they get!

The REAL problem by the way, isn't revenue or spending. It's the IDIOTIC projections of revenue which are always WAY too rosy, which they base their spending on. When the projected revenue doesn't show up as expected, you have a large deficit. Then the howls for increasing taxes begin anew, and the cycle continues.

Example: The $700-750 billion figure being bandied around? Cut that IN HALF as a projection, and base your spending on that figure. NOT the over-inflated, exaggerated one.

Are you in favor of further tax cuts?

The big divide between your side and mine seems to be whether we face primarily a revenue or spending problem.

Would you agree?

You don't know what my "side" even is. You ASSume. And you're wrong.

And as soon as you show me a credible source for any "tax cuts" done in the last two years, we might have a topic. Hint: There haven't been any.

 

[georgephillip]

With Obama in the White House, you're going to see maybe about 10 people show up for that. There are no "Stop The Wars" people anymore.

Closer to 10,000.

If Booooosh were still in office, you would see maybe 1,000 and the MSM would claim 10,000.

With Obama in office? If 10,000 showed up, if it got any coverage at all, the MSM would be saying, "Hundreds showed up to protest..."

I think you're exactly right about Obama.

Which is another good reason to FLUSH as many Democrats AND Republicans from DC as possible in 2012.

Right?

 

[Jeremy]

"It gets worse.

"Obama’s 'Bush' tax cut is only Part I of a one-two punch to shift taxes onto wage earners. Congressional economists estimate that extending the tax cuts to the top 2 per cent will cost $700 to $750 billion over the next decade or so...

"The political axiom at work is 'Big fish eat little fish.'

"There’s not enough tax money to continue swelling the fortunes of the super-rich pretending to save enough to pay the pensions and related social support that North American and European employees have been promised.

"Something must give –"

Schoolteachers or Wall Street bankers?

Whose side are you on?

I'm on the side of NOT raising taxes on anyone and not having any NEW taxes until we get Gramm-Rudmann and line-item veto back, otherwise they will just SPEND any extra they get!

The REAL problem by the way, isn't revenue or spending. It's the IDIOTIC projections of revenue which are always WAY too rosy, which they base their spending on. When the projected revenue doesn't show up as expected, you have a large deficit. Then the howls for increasing taxes begin anew, and the cycle continues.

Example: The $700-750 billion figure being bandied around? Cut that IN HALF as a projection, and base your spending on that figure. NOT the over-inflated, exaggerated one.

Are you in favor of further tax cuts?

The big divide between your side and mine seems to be whether we face primarily a revenue or spending problem.

Would you agree?

Don't know about you, but 800k on African genital washing from the stimulous bill just didn't seem to boost the economy.

Feds Spent $800K on African Genital Washing Instruction | The American Pundit

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Closer to 10,000.

If Booooosh were still in office, you would see maybe 1,000 and the MSM would claim 10,000.

With Obama in office? If 10,000 showed up, if it got any coverage at all, the MSM would be saying, "Hundreds showed up to protest..."

I think you're exactly right about Obama.

Which is another good reason to FLUSH as many Democrats AND Republicans from DC as possible in 2012.

Right?

I'll probably vote for Obama again. Above all, we must have a divided government, not any more one-party rule. The three branches are supposed to be adversarial. Not in bed with each other.

 

[georgephillip]

I'm on the side of NOT raising taxes on anyone and not having any NEW taxes until we get Gramm-Rudmann and line-item veto back, otherwise they will just SPEND any extra they get!

The REAL problem by the way, isn't revenue or spending. It's the IDIOTIC projections of revenue which are always WAY too rosy, which they base their spending on. When the projected revenue doesn't show up as expected, you have a large deficit. Then the howls for increasing taxes begin anew, and the cycle continues.

Example: The $700-750 billion figure being bandied around? Cut that IN HALF as a projection, and base your spending on that figure. NOT the over-inflated, exaggerated one.

Are you in favor of further tax cuts?

The big divide between your side and mine seems to be whether we face primarily a revenue or spending problem.

Would you agree?

You don't know what my "side" even is. You ASSume. And you're wrong.

And as soon as you show me a credible source for any "tax cuts" done in the last two years, we might have a topic. Hint: There haven't been any.

Madison and Columbus?

 

[whitehall]

"Are Americans beginning to awake to the fact that our economy now delivers a larger share of total income to the very top than at any time in living memory?

"That big corporations are making more money and creating more jobs abroad than in the United States?

"That this concentration of income and wealth has so corrupted politics that corporations can extort whatever they want from the government — tax breaks, loan guarantees, subsidies — while the super-rich can take most of their income as capital gains (taxed at 15 percent), and the rest at the lowest top rate in 25 years?

"And that because of this our kids are crowded into classrooms, our streets and highways and bridges are falling apart, and our healthcare bills are out of control?"

The Tea Party focuses its anger like a laser on "government" when actually the state is one-third of an axis of evil along with big business and the richest 5% of the population.

Global class war from Cairo to Madison to Ohio, Indiana and beyond is building.

Get ready to rumble...

What are you people in the "peoples party" going to call yourselves? ...."People"? That's catchy. Why not be truthful and call yourselves socialists? Imagine saying dumb things like "the economy delivers a larger share of income". That might be catchy in ignorant socialist circles like common dreams but the truth of course is that the economy delivers nothing. The people who work hard and invest their money and expand their businesses make the economy work. Go ahead and create the "peoples socialist party". It will insure a disaster for democrats next go round.

 

[georgephillip]

With Obama in the White House, you're going to see maybe about 10 people show up for that. There are no "Stop The Wars" people anymore.

Closer to 10,000.

Oh really?.......Better check your address, dude.

You didn't even get the city right.

Is Rochelle Candy gonna be there?

Oh, that's right, she got squished by a bulldozer......My bad, NEEEEVER MIIIIIND!

Rachel Corrie and Pat Tillman will show up before you do.

 

[georgephillip]

If Booooosh were still in office, you would see maybe 1,000 and the MSM would claim 10,000.

With Obama in office? If 10,000 showed up, if it got any coverage at all, the MSM would be saying, "Hundreds showed up to protest..."

I think you're exactly right about Obama.

Which is another good reason to FLUSH as many Democrats AND Republicans from DC as possible in 2012.

Right?

I'll probably vote for Obama again. Above all, we must have a divided government, not any more one-party rule. The three branches are supposed to be adversarial. Not in bed with each other.

Republicans AND Democrats are about as divided as Wall Street.

Both parties serve the richest 1% of the electorate.

That won't Change until both parties are FLUSHED.

 

[Stephanie]

I suppose we will see just how much of a mood the people are in for these whiny assed lefties and their calls for REVOLOTION.

With gas prices rising, food prices rising, 10% unemployment.

They might be in for a bit of shock.

 

[georgephillip]

"Are Americans beginning to awake to the fact that our economy now delivers a larger share of total income to the very top than at any time in living memory?

"That big corporations are making more money and creating more jobs abroad than in the United States?

"That this concentration of income and wealth has so corrupted politics that corporations can extort whatever they want from the government — tax breaks, loan guarantees, subsidies — while the super-rich can take most of their income as capital gains (taxed at 15 percent), and the rest at the lowest top rate in 25 years?

"And that because of this our kids are crowded into classrooms, our streets and highways and bridges are falling apart, and our healthcare bills are out of control?"

The Tea Party focuses its anger like a laser on "government" when actually the state is one-third of an axis of evil along with big business and the richest 5% of the population.

Global class war from Cairo to Madison to Ohio, Indiana and beyond is building.

Get ready to rumble...

What are you people in the "peoples party" going to call yourselves? ...."People"? That's catchy. Why not be truthful and call yourselves socialists? Imagine saying dumb things like "the economy delivers a larger share of income". That might be catchy in ignorant socialist circles like common dreams but the truth of course is that the economy delivers nothing. The people who work hard and invest their money and expand their businesses make the economy work. Go ahead and create the "peoples socialist party". It will insure a disaster for democrats next go round.

When are you people going to start calling yourselves slaves?

"Like many Americans, I grew up believing that conservative values were about local control and personal responsibility for family, community, and nature.

"It seemed curious to me that the political alliance that drove a rollback of the Roosevelt-era policies that created the American middle class called itself conservative and dismissed its liberal opponents as un-American.

"Eventually, however, I discovered that the term conservative harkens back to a day when conservatives were monarchists who considered democracy a threat to social order and the seas were ruled by buccaneers and privateers.

"That was a clarifying moment.

"Buccaneer is a colorful name for the pirates of old who pursued personal fortune with rules of their own making. They were, in their time, an iconic expression of 'free market' capitalism."

 

[The Gadfly]

"Stop all the wars.....let's have an armed revolution against the capitalist pigs instead!"
That your new slogan, Skippy?

Of course, the capitalist swine won't fight back, and there really won't be much blood shed on our side, so "Aux Barricades!" You're a little late, there; the French Revolution is ancient history, and even the Russian Revolution was almost a hundred years ago; but fret not, little Trotskyite, if we ever invent a time machine, we'll send you back, so you can have your moment of glory. I think the rest of us would rather not kill one another.

 

[jgarden]

As I've said in other threads, by 2050 visible minorities will constitute the majority of American citizens/voters (Hispanics 30% + Blacks 13% + Orientals 8% = 51%) and just what has America's wealthiest 1%, 2%, 5%, or 10% ever done for them?

Visible minorities already represent the majority in California, New Mexico and Texas - most of the southern states will experience a racial and political "changing of the guard" in the next decade. These minorities have also demonstrated a strong willingness to vote Democrat.

America's wealthy may be in for a real shock, they may have to start paying taxes and good healthcare may no longer be a luxury reserved for the "rich" - is nothing sacred!

 

[georgephillip]

I suppose we will see just how much of a mood the people are in for these whiny assed lefties and their calls for REVOLOTION.

With gas prices rising, food prices rising, 10% unemployment.

They might be in for a bit of shock.

Who do you blame for rising food and fuel prices?

Whiny leftists or Wall Street speculators?

Whose housing and credit bubble inflated unemployment to 10%?

Charles's and David's or Wisconsin teachers'?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I suppose we will see just how much of a mood the people are in for these whiny assed lefties and their calls for REVOLOTION.

With gas prices rising, food prices rising, 10% unemployment.

They might be in for a bit of shock.

Who do you blame for rising food and fuel prices?

Whiny leftists or Wall Street speculators?

Whose housing and credit bubble inflated unemployment to 10%?

Charles's and David's or Wisconsin teachers'?

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[georgephillip]

"Stop all the wars.....let's have an armed revolution against the capitalist pigs instead!"
That your new slogan, Skippy?

Of course, the capitalist swine won't fight back, and there really won't be much blood shed on our side, so "Aux Barricades!" You're a little late, there; the French Revolution is ancient history, and even the Russian Revolution was almost a hundred years ago; but fret not, little Trotskyite, if we ever invent a time machine, we'll send you back, so you can have your moment of glory. I think the rest of us would rather not kill one another.

You're the first in this thread to put the words "armed" and "revolution" together.

With at least 200 million private guns in this country it does seem a little naive to think they won't have something to say when class war heats up.

You can bet your life (and the lives of your family) the "capitalist swine" will hire as many guns as they can afford.

Maybe you're the one who needs the time machine?

 

[georgephillip]

As I've said in other threads, by 2050 visible minorities will constitute the majority of American citizens/voters (Hispanics 30% + Blacks 13% + Orientals 8% = 51%) and just what has America's wealthiest 1%, 2%, 5%, or 10% ever done for them?

Visible minorities already represent the majority in California, New Mexico and Texas - most of the southern states will experience a racial and political "changing of the guard" in the next decade. These minorities have also demonstrated a strong willingness to vote Democrat.

America's wealthy may be in for a real shock, they may have to start paying taxes and good healthcare may no longer be a luxury reserved for the "rich" - is nothing sacred!

How many of these minorities are likely to vote for Obama in 2012?

White skinned elites are nearly as racist as they were thirty years ago, but they won't let that stop the corporate money machine from spinning new multi-colored versions of the American Dream Myth.

 

[georgephillip]

I'm on the side of NOT raising taxes on anyone and not having any NEW taxes until we get Gramm-Rudmann and line-item veto back, otherwise they will just SPEND any extra they get!

The REAL problem by the way, isn't revenue or spending. It's the IDIOTIC projections of revenue which are always WAY too rosy, which they base their spending on. When the projected revenue doesn't show up as expected, you have a large deficit. Then the howls for increasing taxes begin anew, and the cycle continues.

Example: The $700-750 billion figure being bandied around? Cut that IN HALF as a projection, and base your spending on that figure. NOT the over-inflated, exaggerated one.

Are you in favor of further tax cuts?

The big divide between your side and mine seems to be whether we face primarily a revenue or spending problem.

Would you agree?

Don't know about you, but 800k on African genital washing from the stimulous bill just didn't seem to boost the economy.

Feds Spent $800K on African Genital Washing Instruction | The American Pundit

You're right but all corruption isn't equal.

"Obama seems to be campaigning for his own defeat!

"Thanks largely to the $13 trillion Wall Street bailout – while keeping the debt overhead in place for America’s 'bottom 98 per cent' – this happy 2 per cent of the population now receives an estimated three quarters (~75 per cent) of the returns to wealth (interest, dividends, rent and capital gains).

"This is nearly double what it received a generation ago. The rest of the population is being squeezed, and foreclosures are rising."

Obama's Greatest Betrayal...