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Pale and Allie and others can you answer a few questions:
BACKGROUND
the Hawaii Bureau of Health, ran an announcement ad in the Honolulu papers....once a week in a section for Births in Honolulu for the previous week or 2 and for legal marriages that took place in the previous week or 2, back in 1961.
the Sunday following Obama's birth, the Bureau of Health for hawaii put the information on Obama's birth in the local newspapers in this specific section.
QUESTION:
If Obama were born in Kenya as you guys presume, How could mrs obama deliver her baby, stay in the hospital for a week which was the Hospital protocol for births back then, get last minute, very expensive, international airline tickets from several airlines in different countries, and return home to Hawaii....(a minimum of a 5 day trip back then), then get the hospital and doctors to break the law and lie to the Hawaii Bureau of Health about her son's birth, all within a week of his birth...?
Also: Can you produce an Airline ticket or flight registrar list that shows Mrs Obama taking several airline flights back to the usa around Obama's birth?
And: Can you produce a passport stamp on Mrs Obama's passport, that shows she was in Kenya around the time of his birth?
also: Can you produce any records from our Customs Agency that shows mrs obama reentering the state of Hawaii with newborn baby in tow around the time of his birth?
Or: Can you produce any documents from the US EMBASSY in Kenya that shows Mrs Obama was there during the time of his birth?
also: Can you produce any documentation from a hospital or the gvt of Kenya that shows Obama's birth there?
TIS A FORGERY DEAR! Just A few clicks could have saved you the time!
Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate is a Bogus Fake Counterfeited Forgery! Myth-Busting by Dr Matt Moody, Ph.D., Social Psychologist
snopes.com: Barack Obama Kenyan Registration of Birth
Yes, it is silly Allie. Someone here has an agenda that's a mod, and admin is allowing them to continue with it.
Pointing out that you guys are a bunch of wingnuts is not a "conspiracy".
Fact of the matter is, obama has NOT produced a "real, verifiable, birth certificate," or a "certificate of birth," or anything of the sort that declares "where he was born."
That's why a good half or more of America still would like to see one. It is NOT a "conspiracy," it's a FACT. What he has produced is a "certification of live birth" which the state of Hawaii issued to ANYONE born ANYWHERE in 1961, and it makes NO DISTINCTION WHAT SO EVER WHERE YOU, HE, OR ANYONE ELSE THAT WAS ISSUED ONE WHERE THEY WERE BORN. It is USELESS, PERIOD, as PROOF OF WHERE HE WAS BORN... **FACT**, no conspiracy about it.
But if you do want to talk conspiracy... the fact of the matter is that since obama took office, he immediately signed an Executive Order HIDING his birth certificate,
and has spent MILLIONS OF DOLLARS paying a small ARMY of attorneys to KEEP IT THAT WAY. Possibly someone after all this time is able to explain why obama would do that.
It is you that is the liar and giving misleading statements. Obama hired Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie Law Group to defend him on the eligibility issue. You owe the posters you called liars an apology.
Here is the proof with supporting documentation:
Obama COULD prove his legitimacy by showing the live birth document. Why won't he? Does he perceive the issue, in some way, beneficial to him? And if so, how?
How do you know that? I've never read or heard that so I will appreciate it if you direct me to a credible source of that information.[...]
But if you do want to talk conspiracy... the fact of the matter is that since obama took office, he immediately signed an Executive Order HIDING his birth certificate, and has spent MILLIONS OF DOLLARS paying a small ARMY of attorneys to KEEP IT THAT WAY. Possibly someone after all this time is able to explain why obama would do that.
You do realize that document has proven to be so fraudulent that even the most hardcore of birthers has distanced themselves from it, right?
P.T. Barnum would have had all of your money.
Daily Kos: Debunking the unbearably stupid
BTW, that "raised seal" is from a coin.
It would take a conspiracy for the State oh Hawaii to fraudulently claim that Obama was born in their state
No it wouldn't Hawaii just happens to be a democratic stronghold. But don't let that stop you from believing hawaii is an honest state.
When this was being contested, Linda Lingle (A republican) was the governor and it was her director of health that (twice) confirmed Obama's birthplace.
You've been told this before, so I don't expect it to change your talking points.
Pale and Allie and others can you answer a few questions:
BACKGROUND
the Hawaii Bureau of Health, ran an announcement ad in the Honolulu papers....once a week in a section for Births in Honolulu for the previous week or 2 and for legal marriages that took place in the previous week or 2, back in 1961.
the Sunday following Obama's birth, the Bureau of Health for hawaii put the information on Obama's birth in the local newspapers in this specific section.
QUESTION:
If Obama were born in Kenya as you guys presume, How could mrs obama deliver her baby, stay in the hospital for a week which was the Hospital protocol for births back then, get last minute, very expensive, international airline tickets from several airlines in different countries, and return home to Hawaii....(a minimum of a 5 day trip back then), then get the hospital and doctors to break the law and lie to the Hawaii Bureau of Health about her son's birth, all within a week of his birth...?
Also: Can you produce an Airline ticket or flight registrar list that shows Mrs Obama taking several airline flights back to the usa around Obama's birth?
And: Can you produce a passport stamp on Mrs Obama's passport, that shows she was in Kenya around the time of his birth?
also: Can you produce any records from our Customs Agency that shows mrs obama reentering the state of Hawaii with newborn baby in tow around the time of his birth?
Or: Can you produce any documents from the US EMBASSY in Kenya that shows Mrs Obama was there during the time of his birth?
also: Can you produce any documentation from a hospital or the gvt of Kenya that shows Obama's birth there?
TIS A FORGERY DEAR! Just A few clicks could have saved you the time!
Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate is a Bogus Fake Counterfeited Forgery! Myth-Busting by Dr Matt Moody, Ph.D., Social Psychologist
snopes.com: Barack Obama Kenyan Registration of Birth
TIS A FORGERY DEAR! Just A few clicks could have saved you the time!
Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate is a Bogus Fake Counterfeited Forgery! Myth-Busting by Dr Matt Moody, Ph.D., Social Psychologist
snopes.com: Barack Obama Kenyan Registration of Birth
Snoopes dear is not trust worthy.
And into the conspiracy theory zone this goes............
Only the ignorant, those with agendas, and racists (or a combination of all three) obsess about the BC issue.
The state of Hawaii has verified his birth per their state laws which satisfies the legal requirement.
That's the end of the story, as much as the birthers would like to have everyone believe differently.
It would take a conspiracy for the State oh Hawaii to fraudulently claim that Obama was born in their state
No it wouldn't Hawaii just happens to be a democratic stronghold. But don't let that stop you from believing hawaii is an honest state.
TIS A FORGERY DEAR! Just A few clicks could have saved you the time!
Barack Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate is a Bogus Fake Counterfeited Forgery! Myth-Busting by Dr Matt Moody, Ph.D., Social Psychologist
snopes.com: Barack Obama Kenyan Registration of Birth
Snoopes dear is not trust worthy.
Nothing has been proven.
When the same questions arose about McCain, there was a congressional committee formed to investigate.
It would take a conspiracy for the State oh Hawaii to fraudulently claim that Obama was born in their state
No it wouldn't Hawaii just happens to be a democratic stronghold. But don't let that stop you from believing hawaii is an honest state.
Even when their Republican Governor said he was born there?
Nothing has been proven.
When the same questions arose about McCain, there was a congressional committee formed to investigate.
there was no meeting to determine MCCain's birth certificate as being real or fake.....MCCain was born in Panama, before the law that naturalized us citizens birthed there was in place.....so, as the law was written when mccain was born, he was not a Natural Born citizen....a couple of years after mccain was born, the law changed....and a nonessential committee of congressmen backed up that the new law grandfathered him, as a natural born citizen.
the cases are not even similar Allie....
And did you answer any of my questions above?
Your accusations are frivolous....you know it.....that's why you refuse to read the FACTS presented....you are CHOOSING to ignore them, for your own reasons, unknown to me....
use some logic, read the counter information provided....instead of turning a BLIND EYE.
Nothing has been proven.
When the same questions arose about McCain, there was a congressional committee formed to investigate.
there was no meeting to determine MCCain's birth certificate as being real or fake.....MCCain was born in Panama, before the law that naturalized us citizens birthed there was in place.....so, as the law was written when mccain was born, he was not a Natural Born citizen....a couple of years after mccain was born, the law changed....and a nonessential committee of congressmen backed up that the new law grandfathered him, as a natural born citizen.
the cases are not even similar Allie....
And did you answer any of my questions above?
Your accusations are frivolous....you know it.....that's why you refuse to read the FACTS presented....you are CHOOSING to ignore them, for your own reasons, unknown to me....
use some logic, read the counter information provided....instead of turning a BLIND EYE.
I don't believe I've made any accusations, Care. Once again, you have no clue what is going on, while addressing issues that don't exist, except in your own head.
I haven't made a single accusation, in fact. This thread is to point out how ridiculous it is to call "conspiracy" for a topic that is the center of a lot of spirited debate in the country, and will continue to be. "Conspiracy" is a term the MSM have given it, as they give every topic they don't want to deal with.
And I've always maintained that at this point, it probably doesn't make much difference anyway.
So before speaking directly to me next time, Care, why don't you actually look at what I've said and formulate an intelligent response that actually has something to do with what I've written? Please?
I have to say I find it ridiculous that every single post or thread about Obama's missing birth certificate is put in Conspiracy Theories.
New Information Revealed:
George Bush had to show his birth certificate to run for president and prove he was a natural born citizen:
This was on Fox & Friends this morning.
Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6rGqzj6jjI&feature=player_embedded
