Bipartisanship

[Coloradomtnman]

I have every intention of supporting our President, just as I did Bush and Clinton before him, and so on. I do, however, reserve the right to speak out when I think him wrong, just as I did with Bush, and Clinton, and every President before. We all should.

Sorry, I didn't mean to lump you into my across the board statement. I was just using your remark to illustrate my point that conservatives (and others) who opposed and still oppose Obama should at least give him a chance to either prove himself or fail.

 

[hjmick]

That's fine. I'm not out to try to change your mind, because while I believe Obama will do well (otherwise I would not have voted for him), it is now time to allow him to perform in his job for four years. I intend to use a critical eye in evaluating that performance and so find out if the faith I put in him with my vote was justified. And invite you to do the same. It's up to him to convince you and me now that he was the best choice. I was just answering the question that you asked about when he had ever reached across the isle since you seemed to be working under the assumption he had not.

I agree, I am more than willing to give him a chance to prove himself. I just decide that, since it was mentioned twice, I would take a gander. I am not above admitting I was wrong and changing my views. Though in this case I would say I have softened them and will wait and see what happens next.

In the end, if he lets me cling to my guns and lack of religion, Obama and I will get along just fine.

Sorry, I didn't mean to lump you into my across the board statement. I was just using your remark to illustrate my point that conservatives (and others) who opposed and still oppose Obama should at least give him a chance to either prove himself or fail.

No offense taken at all. I am willing to wait and see. As I said, I hope he turns out to be good President, for all of us. Time will tell.

And the adventure begins...

 

[N4mddissent]

In the end, if he lets me cling to my guns and lack of religion, Obama and I will get along just fine.

...

As a non-believer myself, I was encouraged by the fact that his mother was a non-believer. Several times in his books and occassionally in comments when speaking about diversity he has mentioned non-believers. It's not much, but just an acknowledgment of our existence in society is rare among politicians today. I do know that he has a respectable amount of scientific literacy and more importantly seems to respect scientific knowledge a considerable amount. Certainly he does not feel that scientific fact should be constrained in ideological bounds.

 

[driveby]

No your just on the wrong side of it.

You will better understand when Obama starts really hitting his stride.

This man has greatness in his soul.

wow, and who said obama isn't the messiah ?

 

[Gunny]

This nation has a new president that could bring about real change. The Democrats hold a larger majority in the House and Senate. We are fighting two wars, are facing a recession, have lost much of the world's respect, and are crippled by divisive politics. Now is the time for everyone to work together.

I'm a far left liberal. I want socialism, and end to the prison-industrial complex, a Dept. of Peace, and end to criminal wars (Iraq) or poorly planned wars which become military quagmires (Iraq and Afghanistan), corporate crime and welfare, national health care, the best education for our people (k-12 and college), and end to extravagant wealth, far better social security, and end to wasteful spending (25+% of the defense budget), less authority for the Police, an end to the Patriot Act, the right for women to choose, equal rights for all Americans including gay marriage and equal work-equal pay for women, and a true separation of church and state.

But,

I sure as hell am not going to get much, if any, of that. However, I am willing to give and get what I can. Compromise is the name of the game and I would rather get some of what I think is best for this country and its people and enjoy real change than to bicker over all of it and get nothing.

Obama doesn't represent me. But he is educated, understands oppression better than any white person does, and has made promises with which I can agree. There were other candidates running who I thought had great and better ideas as well. McCain didn't represent me but he and Obama have a lot in common i.e. alternate fuels and ending our dependence on foreign oil. I respect McCain and wouldn't have bashed him anything like I did Bush. And although I hated Bush, the Texas-oil/Halliburton-war profiteering complex, and Rove's divisive politics, I now have real hope that true change can happen. But it can only happen if liberals and conservatives come together to make it happen.

I started this thread because I would love to have a real and constructive conversation with conservatives about ideas they have for change and for compromise between what they want and what liberals, like me, want. And I would love to debate the details of the ideas without partisan bickering and name-calling (of which I am just as guilty as the next person).

So please join me and let's generate some common ground, some great political ideas and discussion and maybe all of us can enjoy the others' points of view and be, if not politically, at least united as citizens of the United States.

I remember the same olive branch being extended in 2000. So in a word, NO!

What goes around comes around. I've waited a couple of years to be on the dishing end. I won't be deprived of getting a few chunks of yours and every other leftwing moonbat's asses.

Peace is for pansies.

 

[DiveCon]

I remember the same olive branch being extended in 2000. So in a word, NO!

What goes around comes around. I've waited a couple of years to be on the dishing end. I won't be deprived of getting a few chunks of yours and every other leftwing moonbat's asses.

Peace is for pansies.

meh, if he REALLY reaches accross the aisle, i would be willing to see where it goes
but in my experince, the only time democrats reach accross, they want to pull you over to their way and not meet you in the middle
time will tell