Bipartisanship

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  1. Coloradomtnman
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    This nation has a new president that could bring about real change. The Democrats hold a larger majority in the House and Senate. We are fighting two wars, are facing a recession, have lost much of the world's respect, and are crippled by divisive politics. Now is the time for everyone to work together.

    I'm a far left liberal. I want socialism, and end to the prison-industrial complex, a Dept. of Peace, and end to criminal wars (Iraq) or poorly planned wars which become military quagmires (Iraq and Afghanistan), corporate crime and welfare, national health care, the best education for our people (k-12 and college), and end to extravagant wealth, far better social security, and end to wasteful spending (25+% of the defense budget), less authority for the Police, an end to the Patriot Act, the right for women to choose, equal rights for all Americans including gay marriage and equal work-equal pay for women, and a true separation of church and state.

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    I sure as hell am not going to get much, if any, of that. However, I am willing to give and get what I can. Compromise is the name of the game and I would rather get some of what I think is best for this country and its people and enjoy real change than to bicker over all of it and get nothing.

    Obama doesn't represent me. But he is educated, understands oppression better than any white person does, and has made promises with which I can agree. There were other candidates running who I thought had great and better ideas as well. McCain didn't represent me but he and Obama have a lot in common i.e. alternate fuels and ending our dependence on foreign oil. I respect McCain and wouldn't have bashed him anything like I did Bush. And although I hated Bush, the Texas-oil/Halliburton-war profiteering complex, and Rove's divisive politics, I now have real hope that true change can happen. But it can only happen if liberals and conservatives come together to make it happen.

    I started this thread because I would love to have a real and constructive conversation with conservatives about ideas they have for change and for compromise between what they want and what liberals, like me, want. And I would love to debate the details of the ideas without partisan bickering and name-calling (of which I am just as guilty as the next person).

    So please join me and let's generate some common ground, some great political ideas and discussion and maybe all of us can enjoy the others' points of view and be, if not politically, at least united as citizens of the United States.
     
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    Only now when your guy is in charge do you want common ground. LOL
     
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    This is the kind of partisan pettiness that I want to put behind us. Please, only post constructive remarks.
     
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    there will be some who will come to the table and help guide this new direction.

    There are always those who dont want to do anything but sit in a corner and stew in their hate.

    The conservatives on this site are not representative of all conservatives.

    We have some great conservatives here but many are just addlebrained fantasy driven fools who care nothing for moving this country forward , they just want to go back and live in the fifties myth of Opie and Pa.
     
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    Other than lip service, what indications has Obama ever given that he is willing or even capable of working in a bipartisan manner? The Democrats have spent eight years being divisive and spiteful, Obama has never reached across any aisle, and now they call for "bipartisanship efforts?" The Pelosi/Reid definition of "bipartisanship" can be best summed up as, "We won, you lost, too bad."

    Would bipartisanship be nice? You bet. Would bipartisanship go a long way in fixing what's wrong? It's the only way. Will we actually see any bipartisanship in the next four years? Only time will tell.
     
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    This from the party who had complete control and allowed the Dems to do NOTHING during their rule.
     
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    Perfect description of yourself for the past 8 years ! :lol::lol:
     
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    Good morning, TM, How are you? How are things shaping up over at JPP? I haven't stopped in there yet today.

    I see you still haven't figured me out yet. It's not my party, I am all over the board. Didn't vote for McCain, didn't vote for Obama. Did vote for a couple of Dems, a Libertarian, an Independent, and even a Greenie. That's what I call more than willing to work in a bipartisan fashion. In twenty five years I have never voted a straight party ticket. In twenty five years I have never missed a vote.
     
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    How on earth could he write such a thread if his guy lost?

    <scratch head>
     
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    I am impressed by Nevada Senator John Ensign (R).

    John Ensign, United States Senator From Nevada: Home Page

    Check out his positions, and watch him because he is going to be working to get stuff done and you will certainly get a sense of where potential common ground is, from him.

    Having ony heard him speak briefly, I am definitely going to keep an eye on him. He sounds like a traditional fiscal conservative willing to compromise. I like.
     

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