Bipartisan

[WillowTree]

The Republicans are a minority with no power to pass legislation. If they want to get things done they will have to work with the other side. That is the way the math works out
Trying to bully when you are a minority will yield gridlock
They need to work like they did in December and give a little to get a little. That is the way government works

gridlock is good. With gridlock you won't get 2000 page bills that no one knows what's in em.

Well that's an out of touch statement! I guess you want the GOP to have a rough time in 2012!
In a recent poll, Congress got a 13% approval rating and since the last decade Congress's approval ratings have been going down due to GRIDLOCK! Poll after poll show that people want things done and DON'T want gridlock. The people who want gridlock are those who put their ideology over what's best for the country. That applies to the Dems who seem to forget that they have a history of using gridlock. This also applies to the GOP wants to use gridlock to accomplish their Number One goal, make Obama a one-term president.

Gridlock: Good thing Bad thing-ABC NEWS/YAHOO! NEWS POLL:

All 31% Good 56% Bad

Republicans 43% Good 42% Bad
Independents 28% Good 57% Bad

Democrats 22% Good 67% Bad
(Among registered voters)
http://www.langerresearch.com/uploads/1113a5 Ask America 5.pdf


That's not what Americans want. By 77 percent to 22 percent, registered voters want Republicans to work with Obama to get things done rather than stand firm to the point of gridlock.
Election's big result: Expect more Washington gridlock | McClatchy

So here's our country still fighting the effects of the biggest financial meltdown since 1929 and all some far right wingnuuts want to do is,,,,nothing but gridlock. Another example of ideology over country.
Well as the polling numbers show, if gridlock is all that happens, the GOP's attempt to grow their power will fail.

What Americans don't want is dumbazz 2000 pages of legislation thrown together in the back room by demonrats who are azz kissing each other, and what American don't want (well 50% of us anyways) is getting the crap taxed outta us. So yes. in that context GRIDLOCK is excellent.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

just because the enemy is stupid, you don't need to copy it. You might even try out smarting them rather than out stupiding them.

Most Americans don't like the Opera Buffe that is washington. They would prefer the representatives to sit down, get the job done and go home. Among other reasons the Democrats lots so badly (and they lost pretty badly in the Senate too, they did as badly as they could do given the circumstances) was because of this level of partisanship, being deaf to any conversation, and generally being jerkasses.

So, it goes back to the advice your mom gave you when you were four. If the boy next door is being dumb, that does not require you to be twice as foolish.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Republicans are a minority with no power to pass legislation. If they want to get things done they will have to work with the other side. That is the way the math works out
Trying to bully when you are a minority will yield gridlock
They need to work like they did in December and give a little to get a little. That is the way government works

.....unreal. .

why is it unreal?.....Congress has always worked best when both sides actually work together to get things done.....in order to do that you have to compromise with each other.....a little bit here,a little bit there.....i did not throw a vote for some of these guys to sit on their asses doing nothing but sneering at each other.....if i am expected to do my job when i go there....i expect the same of these guys.....

 

[mdn2000]

Bipartisan is when a Liberal talks a Republican into being a loser

 

[Harry Dresden]

It seems to me that the only party that ever talks about wanting bi-partisanship is the party that is out of power regardless of which party that is.

Immie

at least nowadays.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Republicans are a minority with no power to pass legislation. If they want to get things done they will have to work with the other side. That is the way the math works out
Trying to bully when you are a minority will yield gridlock
They need to work like they did in December and give a little to get a little. That is the way government works

gridlock is good. With gridlock you won't get 2000 page bills that no one knows what's in em.

and it can also be bad.....things that need fixing dont get repaired because Congress has to play their little political games with each other....so these things get worse....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Rs were horrible to the dem minority.

They then Fcuked the entire country by being complete obstructionists.

They want their way and nothing else.

They dont truely believe in democracy

the same can be said about the Democrats....Geezus between you and Dean i dont know who the bigger ass is.....maybe your CO-Asses....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Bipartisan is when a Liberal talks a Republican into being a loser

i suppose that can work both ways......

 

[rightwinger]

Bipartisan is when a Liberal talks a Republican into being a loser

You know..

You point out the biggest problem with our government today. That one side is the winner so the other side has to be the loser. With round the clock news coverage today, any attempt at compromise is viewed as defeat.
Government is best when both sides get something out of it

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Ok, some hard FACTS. Obama has no intention of compromising on anything. He agreed to the tax bill ( which is ONLY one year) because he had to not because he wanted to.

Reid has never worked with Republicans, his notion of Bipartisan is for a couple republicans to sign on to one of HIS bills. And don't get me started on Pelosi.

The Republicans control the House and with Conservative Democratic Senators have over 50 votes in the Senate. They , the Republicans, control the halls of Congress. The only power the dems have is Filibuster ( which you all claim they will get rid of) and a Presidential Veto.

There are ways around both.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Bipartisan is when a Liberal talks a Republican into being a loser

You know..

You point out the biggest problem with our government today. That one side is the winner so the other side has to be the loser. With round the clock news coverage today, any attempt at compromise is viewed as defeat.
Government is best when both sides get something out of it

PERFECT example of what I am talking about. Until November Rightwinger was right there with the rest of the Liberals insisting they did not need the Republicans and to do it all alone, IGNORE the Republicans. He insisted they would not lose big in November too.

NOW SUDDENLY he wants compromise. Remind us Rightwinger, what was your stance on Compromise on the Obama Care bill? On the Budget? On the bail out? On Sotomeyer?

 

[rightwinger]

Bipartisan is when a Liberal talks a Republican into being a loser

You know..

You point out the biggest problem with our government today. That one side is the winner so the other side has to be the loser. With round the clock news coverage today, any attempt at compromise is viewed as defeat.
Government is best when both sides get something out of it

PERFECT example of what I am talking about. Until November Rightwinger was right there with the rest of the Liberals insisting they did not need the Republicans and to do it all alone, IGNORE the Republicans. He insisted they would not lose big in November too.

NOW SUDDENLY he wants compromise. Remind us Rightwinger, what was your stance on Compromise on the Obama Care bill? On the Budget? On the bail out? On Sotomeyer?

Ummm lets see

I did advocate a bipartisan Healthcare Bill. It was the Republicans who refused the compromise

I adocated compromise on every major issue if the Republicans would in turn vote for the bipartisan legislation. When it turned out the Republicans were only interested in obstructing progress, I advocated saying "fuck-em get it done"

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You know..

You point out the biggest problem with our government today. That one side is the winner so the other side has to be the loser. With round the clock news coverage today, any attempt at compromise is viewed as defeat.
Government is best when both sides get something out of it

PERFECT example of what I am talking about. Until November Rightwinger was right there with the rest of the Liberals insisting they did not need the Republicans and to do it all alone, IGNORE the Republicans. He insisted they would not lose big in November too.

NOW SUDDENLY he wants compromise. Remind us Rightwinger, what was your stance on Compromise on the Obama Care bill? On the Budget? On the bail out? On Sotomeyer?

Ummm lets see

I did advocate a bipartisan Healthcare Bill. It was the Republicans who refused the compromise

I adocated compromise on every major issue if the Republicans would in turn vote for the bipartisan legislation. When it turned out the Republicans were only interested in obstructing progress, I advocated saying "fuck-em get it done"

Nice blinders you have. Now explain to us what "compromise" halt bil EVER existed? The democrats made no offer to compromise, what they did is say we will decide what you get in the bill and then you vote with us.

Once again perfect example of Liberal Bipartisanship prior to November.

 

[mdn2000]

Compromise is third place.

 

[rightwinger]

PERFECT example of what I am talking about. Until November Rightwinger was right there with the rest of the Liberals insisting they did not need the Republicans and to do it all alone, IGNORE the Republicans. He insisted they would not lose big in November too.

NOW SUDDENLY he wants compromise. Remind us Rightwinger, what was your stance on Compromise on the Obama Care bill? On the Budget? On the bail out? On Sotomeyer?

Ummm lets see

I did advocate a bipartisan Healthcare Bill. It was the Republicans who refused the compromise

I adocated compromise on every major issue if the Republicans would in turn vote for the bipartisan legislation. When it turned out the Republicans were only interested in obstructing progress, I advocated saying "fuck-em get it done"

Nice blinders you have. Now explain to us what "compromise" halt bil EVER existed? The democrats made no offer to compromise, what they did is say we will decide what you get in the bill and then you vote with us.

Once again perfect example of Liberal Bipartisanship prior to November.

Seriously.....Did you sleep through the Obama Heathcare summit with Republican leadership?

With Healthcare hanging by a thread, Obama asked "What do you want to see in the bill that will make you vote for it?"
The Republicans, to a man, said "Tear it up and start over"

What about the Stimulus Bill?

Republicans in committee insisted that 40% of the Stimulus be tax cuts. The tax cuts were included and the Republicans still oted against it

 

[whitehall]

The Republicans are a minority with no power to pass legislation. If they want to get things done they will have to work with the other side. That is the way the math works out
Trying to bully when you are a minority will yield gridlock
They need to work like they did in December and give a little to get a little. That is the way government works

Compared to what we've seen in the most corrupt congress in history during the last two years, gridlock is a step up. The modern definition of "bipartisanship" means caving into democrat party issues. Those days are over thanks to the backbone furnished by the Tea Party.

 

[SFC Ollie]

As divided as the country is under this administration I do not expect to see any true bipartisanship from either party. Dems were all about pushing their agenda these past 2 years and the Republicans have been all about preventing what they could of it. I see this continuing, because neither is going to give up. But at least now we won't have another 2000 pages voted on without knowing what the hell it is.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Compromise is third place.

compromising gets things done.....your way they are sitting and staring at each other....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Remember in 2008 how Bipartisan the Democrats were? How Bipartisan Obama was in 2009?

Now do a history review and you will discover that the only time Democrats talk about BEING bipartisan and how it is best for the Country is when they are NOT in power. Invariably what they really mean is acquiesce to our demands and our policies rather then doing what you as the majority intended to do.

It is like how after 1994 when the Republicans took over the House and 1996 when they took over the Senate, suddenly all the liberal press shows were interviewing RANKING members when before when the Democrats controlled everything those shows interviewed the Committee Chairmen.

Get it straight people..... All Obama and the Democrats want when they talk of Bipartisan is for the Republicans to roll over and enact Democratic plans. And in the past the Republicans have foolishly done so. The Republican party needs to wake the hell up and actually lead rather then apologize to the Democrats for being in power. There are enough moderate and right of center Democratic Senators that the Republicans can do as they need in regards new bills.

And my personal opinion is that if Obama Vetos shit, shut down Congress. If he won't sign bills tack the material on to a bill he wants. And do not allow it to be stripped. We are in a hole and we can not get out if Obama starts vetoing everything. Time to stand up and be counted.

Horsecrap, period. Both parties play the game equally. Nuff said.

 

[Trajan]

You know..

You point out the biggest problem with our government today. That one side is the winner so the other side has to be the loser. With round the clock news coverage today, any attempt at compromise is viewed as defeat.
Government is best when both sides get something out of it

PERFECT example of what I am talking about. Until November Rightwinger was right there with the rest of the Liberals insisting they did not need the Republicans and to do it all alone, IGNORE the Republicans. He insisted they would not lose big in November too.

NOW SUDDENLY he wants compromise. Remind us Rightwinger, what was your stance on Compromise on the Obama Care bill? On the Budget? On the bail out? On Sotomeyer?

I did advocate a bipartisan Healthcare Bill. It was the Republicans who refused the compromise

dude....for Christs sake..


the minority didn't need to compromise...

If I recall you had to BRIBE some of your own senators...for god sakes.