Bipartisan Agreement That Stimulus Program Worked--GOP Issa & Biden Agree!

[mascale]

The Stimulus that failed so many of the Party of Abraham Lincoln has not been able to escape the scruitiny of House Government Oversight Committee Chairman, Rep Issa, from CA.

Being a California Republican CongressRep, most of the GOP can point with scorn to Issa's new plan of monitoring federal programs--based on the Recovery website--as after all, among the last suggestions of a dying breed--A California GOP elected Official. I myself am related to a famous California cemetery, founding family. Even Bush II, Terms I and II, can spot a rational Texas family, who fled after 1865.

Business is business, anyore! My own father was among the first to sell cars on TV--in league with Haldeman's dad.

Biden, GOP announce spending watchdog plans (6/13/11) -- GovExec.com

Now both Vice President Biden, and GOP Rep. D. Issa, have found a way to curtail waste and fraud in government: Such as the missing $6.6 bil., in Iraq. Anyone with GOP around, even famous actor John Wilkes Booth: Would likely have enough to keep his hands, and pockets, and pillow cases, and mattresses--and tie and tails, full: And even all at the same time.

Recovery.org had a website able to track federal spending. That seems to have created bipartisan concurrence on something to do. Now both sides agree that something can be done, and clearly with a nod to the Obama Liberals, stimulus program.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many nations find new uses for $6.6 bil.: From whatever source derived! Many syndicates likely got there first, and maybe SPECTRE, friend of Blofeld--and Writers Guild! Many now go to New Hampshire: To Seek New Non-Negro Dialect!)

 

[hortysir]

This week's Time Magazine disagrees:

What U.S. Economic Recovery? Five Destructive Myths - TIME

Goolsbee admits that the government can't fix it:

You can hardly blame Council of Economic Advisers head Austan Goolsbee for picking this moment to retreat to his tenured university post in Chicago. The professor tried to put a good face on things, brushing away worries of a double dip and citing stiff but temporary "headwinds" from such factors as the Japanese-nuclear-disaster-related supply shocks and higher gas prices. Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke was somewhat more sober, admitting that the recovery was proving to be "uneven" and "frustratingly slow." Yet he gave no hint of being willing to helicopter in a third round of fiscal stimulus — at least not yet. "Monetary policy," he said, "cannot be a panacea." Or as Goolsbee put it, it's time for the private sector to "stand up and lead the recovery."

 

[grunt11b]

The Stimulus that failed so many of the Party of Abraham Lincoln has not been able to escape the scruitiny of House Government Oversight Committee Chairman, Rep Issa, from CA.

Being a California Republican CongressRep, most of the GOP can point with scorn to Issa's new plan of monitoring federal programs--based on the Recovery website--as after all, among the last suggestions of a dying breed--A California GOP elected Official. I myself am related to a famous California cemetery, founding family. Even Bush II, Terms I and II, can spot a rational Texas family, who fled after 1865.

Business is business, anyore! My own father was among the first to sell cars on TV--in league with Haldeman's dad.

Biden, GOP announce spending watchdog plans (6/13/11) -- GovExec.com

Now both Vice President Biden, and GOP Rep. D. Issa, have found a way to curtail waste and fraud in government: Such as the missing $6.6 bil., in Iraq. Anyone with GOP around, even famous actor John Wilkes Booth: Would likely have enough to keep his hands, and pockets, and pillow cases, and mattresses--and tie and tails, full: And even all at the same time.

Recovery.org had a website able to track federal spending. That seems to have created bipartisan concurrence on something to do. Now both sides agree that something can be done, and clearly with a nod to the Obama Liberals, stimulus program.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many nations find new uses for $6.6 bil.: From whatever source derived! Many syndicates likely got there first, and maybe SPECTRE, friend of Blofeld--and Writers Guild! Many now go to New Hampshire: To Seek New Non-Negro Dialect!)

Just because those two knuckleheads agree to something doesn't make it true, unemployment numbers and the amount of people filing for unemployment benefits speaks for itself. Also, if Biden said it's true, there is your first hint not to believe it. And Issa realizes that if he doesn't start pandering to the left in Cali that his career will end, that's not very hard to figure out coming from him being in California. If he does not hold true to conservatism his career is over, if he does his career is over. We can chalk him up as a loss but not really a big loss, we would be losing one GOP moderate for a Democrat Moderate at most.

 

[mascale]

The editors of Time Magazine can create five myths based on virtually no data whatsoever. Their counterpart is FOXTVNightlyNothingNewAtAll!

Here is the gist of the linked Time article:

"Myth No. 1: This is a temporary blip, and then it's full steam ahead.

True, only 12.2% of economists surveyed in the past few days by the Philadelphia Fed believe that the current backsliding will develop into a double-dip recession (though that percentage is up significantly from the start of the year). . . ."

"Avoiding a double dip is not the same as creating growth that's strong enough to revive the job market."

(Actually, Payroll data have to be collected from reporting businesses. 1099's are different. Anything new gets initially under-reported, but is in the household survey.)

"In fact, there's an unfortunate snowball effect with growth and employment when they are weak. It used to take roughly six months for the U.S. to get back to a normal employment picture after a recession; the McKinsey Global Institute estimates it will take five years this time around."

(So Time Creates The Fiction Of A "snowball" sliding uphill!)

"That lingering unemployment cuts GDP growth by reducing consumer demand, which in turn makes it harder to create jobs. We would need to create 187,000 jobs a month, growing at a rate of 3.3%, to get to a healthy 5% unemployment rate by 2020. At the current rate of growth and job creation, we would maybe get halfway there by that time."

There is nothing that denies that the recovery has happened, and is under way: In any article, anywhere at all.

Then compare with 1932. 25% unemployment was only what got reported. The various Hoovervilles, and transients by the trainful, were likely not a part of the count. 8% unemployment was in range, and that was eight years later, and maybe undercounted, even then.

The Democrat's recovery was, however, under underway.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many not spending need new incentive. What is a Great Half-Wit Father In Washington to do--With $6.6 bil. cash right away! Famous "Committee To Re-Elect President," maybe had needed skills for that(?)! "Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em," maybe not!)

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Dude... you're one fucked up puppy.

 

[hortysir]

The editors of Time Magazine can create five myths based on virtually no data whatsoever. Their counterpart is FOXTVNightlyNothingNewAtAll!

Here is the gist of the linked Time article:

"Myth No. 1: This is a temporary blip, and then it's full steam ahead.

True, only 12.2% of economists surveyed in the past few days by the Philadelphia Fed believe that the current backsliding will develop into a double-dip recession (though that percentage is up significantly from the start of the year). . . ."

"Avoiding a double dip is not the same as creating growth that's strong enough to revive the job market."

(Actually, Payroll data have to be collected from reporting businesses. 1099's are different. Anything new gets initially under-reported, but is in the household survey.)

"In fact, there's an unfortunate snowball effect with growth and employment when they are weak. It used to take roughly six months for the U.S. to get back to a normal employment picture after a recession; the McKinsey Global Institute estimates it will take five years this time around."

(So Time Creates The Fiction Of A "snowball" sliding uphill!)

"That lingering unemployment cuts GDP growth by reducing consumer demand, which in turn makes it harder to create jobs. We would need to create 187,000 jobs a month, growing at a rate of 3.3%, to get to a healthy 5% unemployment rate by 2020. At the current rate of growth and job creation, we would maybe get halfway there by that time."

There is nothing that denies that the recovery has happened, and is under way: In any article, anywhere at all.

Then compare with 1932. 25% unemployment was only what got reported. The various Hoovervilles, and transients by the trainful, were likely not a part of the count. 8% unemployment was in range, and that was eight years later, and maybe undercounted, even then.

The Democrat's recovery was, however, under underway.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many not spending need new incentive. What is a Great Half-Wit Father In Washington to do--With $6.6 bil. cash right away! Famous "Committee To Re-Elect President," maybe had needed skills for that(?)! "Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em," maybe not!)

Notice how deflection and sarcasm surround addressing only one of the 5 myths mentioned?
Not that he got that one right, either.....jus' saying

 

[whitehall]

Why would it matter to the left what Ca. republican Issa says? Is the left so desperate that they think a quote from a republican can change the facts that are evident in the stimulous disaster that Obama and the democrats created? Issa's state is bankrupt to the point of releasing monsters back into society because the prisons are overcrowded. Issa's constituents are in danger because every politician in California looked the other way for decades while the golden state was dying under federal regulations, bureaucratic crap and illegal immigration.

 

[Brutus]

The Stimulus that failed

yes, a stimulus will always fail because it can only cause a temporary bubble that will misallocate resources and then burst causing a recession until the free market then reallocates resources to their proper places causing the economy to recover.

 

[mascale]

The United States Unemployment Rate By Year

Unemployment by Year and "Trajectory"

1981 7.62% "The Reagan Trajectory"
1982 9.71% "The Reagan Trajectory"
1983 9.60% "The Reagan Trajectory"

The Real Economy of, "The First African American President In History:"

1998 4.50% "The First African American President In History!"
1999 4.22% "Ending The Gangland Murders Atrocities"
2000 3.97% "Four Full Years--And No John Wilkes Booth Around!"

This starts the "Great Recession" Below:

2008 7.60% This is Still Bush, Who Caused The Crash, GOP Intended!

The halts the slide, below--which has happened before:

2009 9.26% "Back To The Reagan Trajectory, Just Like Then! (Obama)
2010 9.64% "Back To the Reagan Trajectory, Just Like Then!" (Obama)

In the GOP tradition of uneven treatment for peoples, the first three years of Reagan are being compared to only the first two years of Obama.

See the corresponding recoveries, compared to what real African Americans(?) are alleged to do!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many Squaws come to Lands of Many Nations: Maybe with the $6.6 bil. cash, of our cornucopia models!)

 

[grunt11b]

The editors of Time Magazine can create five myths based on virtually no data whatsoever. Their counterpart is FOXTVNightlyNothingNewAtAll!

Here is the gist of the linked Time article:

"Myth No. 1: This is a temporary blip, and then it's full steam ahead.

True, only 12.2% of economists surveyed in the past few days by the Philadelphia Fed believe that the current backsliding will develop into a double-dip recession (though that percentage is up significantly from the start of the year). . . ."

"Avoiding a double dip is not the same as creating growth that's strong enough to revive the job market."

(Actually, Payroll data have to be collected from reporting businesses. 1099's are different. Anything new gets initially under-reported, but is in the household survey.)

"In fact, there's an unfortunate snowball effect with growth and employment when they are weak. It used to take roughly six months for the U.S. to get back to a normal employment picture after a recession; the McKinsey Global Institute estimates it will take five years this time around."

(So Time Creates The Fiction Of A "snowball" sliding uphill!)

"That lingering unemployment cuts GDP growth by reducing consumer demand, which in turn makes it harder to create jobs. We would need to create 187,000 jobs a month, growing at a rate of 3.3%, to get to a healthy 5% unemployment rate by 2020. At the current rate of growth and job creation, we would maybe get halfway there by that time."

There is nothing that denies that the recovery has happened, and is under way: In any article, anywhere at all.

Then compare with 1932. 25% unemployment was only what got reported. The various Hoovervilles, and transients by the trainful, were likely not a part of the count. 8% unemployment was in range, and that was eight years later, and maybe undercounted, even then.

The Democrat's recovery was, however, under underway.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many not spending need new incentive. What is a Great Half-Wit Father In Washington to do--With $6.6 bil. cash right away! Famous "Committee To Re-Elect President," maybe had needed skills for that(?)! "Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em," maybe not!)

Notice how deflection and sarcasm surround addressing only one of the 5 myths mentioned?
Not that he got that one right, either.....jus' saying

Herman Cain described the left best when it comes to arguing or debating, he uses the acronym "SIN" to describe them:
The left....
1) Shift the subject
2) Ignore the facts
3) Name call

Pretty much sums them up.

 

[grunt11b]

Why would it matter to the left what Ca. republican Issa says? Is the left so desperate that they think a quote from a republican can change the facts that are evident in the stimulous disaster that Obama and the democrats created? Issa's state is bankrupt to the point of releasing monsters back into society because the prisons are overcrowded. Issa's constituents are in danger because every politician in California looked the other way for decades while the golden state was dying under federal regulations, bureaucratic crap and illegal immigration.

All you had to say where those two words, California Republican. Everyone knows there is no such thing. You may have an (R) in the front of your name in that state, but you are definitely not a Republican, or at least if you are you do not represent Republican values of conservatism and liberty.
I know there are some conservatives there, I just have yet to see one in Republican/conservative form in many years.

 

[mascale]

Notice again that the Party of Abraham Lincoln remains uneven in treatment of any peoples at all.

"The Reagan Revoution" was eight full years.

"The Obama Stimulus" is only allowed two years--and maybe less.

Anyone sees the kinds of households that gruntb11, or soggyinNOLA, really are. Like so many others, they likely kept the Bush II, Terms I and II warbucks, and went about happily creating spawn, even thought U. S. Nationals were being shot to death, basis-free, and blown to bits in foreign lands.

They were not involved, and it was of no concern to them: Like some people in the Oval Office that anyone can think of.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many now maybe seek $6.6 bil., cash: Lost while U. S. Nationals being maimed and wounded--not liking recovery underway at all!)

 

[grunt11b]

The United States Unemployment Rate By Year

Unemployment by Year and "Trajectory"

1981 7.62% "The Reagan Trajectory"
1982 9.71% "The Reagan Trajectory"
1983 9.60% "The Reagan Trajectory"

Reagan inherited the Carter administrations economy, and worked very hard to get those numbers back down, he ultimately created over 20,000,000 jobs during his administration.

The Real Economy of, "The First African American President In History:"

1998 4.50% "The First African American President In History!"
1999 4.22% "Ending The Gangland Murders Atrocities"
2000 3.97% "Four Full Years--And No John Wilkes Booth Around!"

This starts the "Great Recession" Below:

2008 7.60% This is Still Bush, Who Caused The Crash, GOP Intended!

Can you prove he caused the crash? If so, how did he do it?

The halts the slide, below--which has happened before:

2009 9.26% "Back To The Reagan Trajectory, Just Like Then! (Obama)
2010 9.64% "Back To the Reagan Trajectory, Just Like Then!" (Obama)

In the GOP tradition of uneven treatment for peoples, the first three years of Reagan are being compared to only the first two years of Obama.

In Reagans first two years he lowed taxes on the working man and on Businesses who created jobs, which helped him create 20,000,000 jobs during his term, big difference compared to what Berry has done in his first two years isn't it?

See the corresponding recoveries, compared to what real African Americans(?) are alleged to do!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many Squaws come to Lands of Many Nations: Maybe with the $6.6 bil. cash, of our cornucopia models!)

It was the democrats who supported the Jim Crow law and slavery, not republicans.

 

[hortysir]

Notice again that the Party of Abraham Lincoln remains uneven in treatment of any peoples at all.

"The Reagan Revoution" was eight full years.

"The Obama Stimulus" is only allowed two years--and maybe less.

Anyone sees the kinds of households that gruntb11, or soggyinNOLA, really are. Like so many others, they likely kept the Bush II, Terms I and II warbucks, and went about happily creating spawn, even thought U. S. Nationals were being shot to death, basis-free, and blown to bits in foreign lands.

They were not involved, and it was of no concern to them: Like some people in the Oval Office that anyone can think of.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Many now maybe seek $6.6 bil., cash: Lost while U. S. Nationals being maimed and wounded--not liking recovery underway at all!)

Notice how you continue to look backwards and can't take responsibility for your hero's failed policies.
You credited 2009 and 2010 to Bush.
When in the PHUK will you assholes own your administration?

For that reason alone, I'd like to see Obama re-elected.
In late 2014 he would STILL be blaming Bush for the 13.4% unemployment rate.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If economists knew what the fuck they were talking about they'd be bond traders

 

[mascale]

How did Bush II, Terms I & II manage to intentionally, destroy the housing industry, decimate the Jewish Banker brokerages, and Crash the Stock Market all at once?

Look and See! See the Math! So Bush II, Terms I and II do Intentional Math! See Bush Come(?)!

Bush signs stimulus package - Feb. 11, 2008

The Party of Abraham Lincoln is worldwide famous for the attempted, genocide of white People. Clearly they know how to do the math. In the matter of the of foreclosure crisis they created, then even again: They freed their people!

1. Bush II, Terms I and II, was stingy even at providing Protective Gear, supporting those intentional, murders and mutilations of the troops in the field.

2. Bush II, Terms I and II, then brought the stinginess, intending atrociies of the homeland: To the households on the ground in the USA itself.

3. The turnaround of job losses in the Obama two years: Then compares favorably with the jobs creation of the Reagan eight years. From losses exceeding 700,000 per month--there have now been gains exceeding 200,000 jobs per month. A mil. jobs per month turnaround in 24 months is a lot more jobs than Reagan saved.

4. The Republicans tend to do the math they historically intend, mostly in stingy disregard for other peoples.

5. The Democrats tend to the math they historically intended, mostly to the benefit of all the United Nations, even!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Party of Abraham Lincoln now go to New Hampshire: Seek new non-Negro dialect from among them! Many tough times ahead!)

 

[Brutus]

In the matter of the of foreclosure crisis they[Republicans] created, then even again:

Of course that is wrong. If you had evidence that it was true I could pay you $10,000. Bet? Its so much easier to rant than to think isn't it?

 

[hortysir]

You can sugar-coat it and compare your president to Reagan until the cows come home.
Did Reagan spend almost 3 years blaming Carter or compare his economy to Kennedy's?

NO

Shut the fuck up or admit that Barry has tied an anchor to our economy the size of China

 

[mascale]

How did Bush II, Terms I & II manage to intentionally, destroy the housing industry, decimate the Jewish Banker brokerages, and Crash the Stock Market all at once?

Look and See! See the Math! So Bush II, Terms I and II do Intentional Math! See Bush Come(?)!

http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/11/news/economy/bush_stimulus/

The Party of Abraham Lincoln is worldwide famous for the attempted genocide of white People. Clearly they know how to do the math. In the matter of the of foreclosure crisis they created, then even again: They freed their people, and pretty much like before!

1. Bush II, Terms I and II, was stingy even at providing Protective Gear, supporting those intentional, murders and mutilations of the troops in the field.

2. Bush II, Terms I and II, then brought the stinginess, intending atrociies of the homeland: To the households on the ground in the USA itself.

3. The turnaround of job losses in the Obama two years: Then compares favorably with the jobs creation of the Reagan eight years. From losses exceeding 700,000 per month--there have now been gains exceeding 200,000 jobs per month. A mil. jobs per month turnaround in 24 months is a lot more jobs than Reagan saved.

4. The Republicans tend to do the math they historically intend, mostly in stingy disregard for other peoples.

5. The Democrats tend to the math they historically intended, mostly to the benefit of all the United Nations, even!

6. The Republicans Now Intend Federal Spending Cuts. Even Moody's shows that comes out of GDP.

7. Greating Lesser and Lesser GDP is what the Party of Herbert Hoover is all about!

8. The Republicans have created the housing downturns, in the past!

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Party of Abraham Lincoln now go to New Hampshire: Seek new non-Negro dialect from among them! Many tough times ahead!)

 

[mascale]

So lest we forget,

"Reagan may have resisted calls for tax increases, but he ultimately supported them. In 1982 alone, he signed into law not one but two major tax increases. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) raised taxes by $37.5 billion per year and the Highway Revenue Act raised the gasoline tax by another $3.3 billion. According to a recent Treasury Department study, TEFRA alone raised taxes by almost 1 percent of the gross domestic product, making it the largest peacetime tax increase in American history. An increase of similar magnitude today would raise more than $100 billion per year." ~National Review (NR)


National Review (NR) was founded by the late author William F. Buckley, Jr. If you are a true conservative you know who he was.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Buckley, Jr. not a Sioux, however!)