Bill Maher: "Americans are Stupid" Stands by His Statement.

[PubliusInfinitum]

It depends in which context he said those words and in relation to what. But yes its true some Americans are stupid/ignorant, anyone who believes they are living in a bubble, think the world only consists of them, think they are superior to everyone else, think they have invented everything etc. are obviously stupid and ignorant.

Further proof of this stupidity if needed just one example, 9/11 How many Americans are still going around thinking a bunch of rag heads did that job and that buildings just collapse quicker than gravity, there must be millions therefore they are stupid and ignorant.

ROFLMNAO...

Say it aint so... ANOTHER imbecile coming to the table wagging their intellectual finger, while demonstrating an abject ignorance of basic physics.

Had Maher simply stated that 'some US Citizens are idiots...' he'd have been spot on, balls accurate; had he stated that 'the whole of the ideological left, including those living in the US are idiots' he'd have been just as accurate; only on a larger scale...

But had he stated that the 911 conspiracy cranks are the bottom of that idiotic barrel... he'd be in the running for a Pulitzer nomination.

 

[Ravi]

heh...here we go. Some asshole says Americans are stupid. If the asshole leans right, Pubic doesn't even notice. If the asshole leans left, Pubic cries like a child.

Pubic makes Americans look not only stupid but like whining children. Sometimes I think Pubic works for AQ because he always sides with their view of us.

 

[edthecynic]

THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS!
​

Actually, this nation wasn't founded on the idea of diversity... that is a misnomer which is chronically advanced by anti-Americans; those who hope to DIVIDE Americans and separate them from the IMMUTABLE PRINCIPLES which SUSTAIN AMERICA...

Diversity is rooted in DIVISION... it's fairly difficult to be UNITED where one is DIVIDED. Promoting division, will never promote UNITY...

THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS​

Don't you just love people who divide America into Left and Right preaching about unity!!!

To the Fascist there are only TWO sides, their side and the enemy.
To the CON$ervative there is no middle, anything that isn't Far Right is Far Left!

May 12, 2008
RUSH: I maintain that moderates and independents are Democrats. Because, by definition, if someone or some organization is not conservative, it's by definition going to be liberal, not moderate, not independent, it's going to be liberal

So according to this imbecile, noting the distinction is a function of creating division...

Yet another example of the sort of sub-par intellect which has no business being within 10 miles of a voting precinct...

It's also the left that doesn't like freedom of speech you ignorant twit.

Insults indicate to me that you have no valid point. Which would explain why you starting going on about private property restrictions being elitist when the subject at hand is patriotism and being unAmerican.

ROFLMNAO... So noting that the Left is intolerant of opposing speech seems insulting to you?

No sign of intolerance there...

It's always fun to watch someone play too dumb to know "ignorant twit" is an insult.

Obviously you are a self-hating leftist pretending to be a CON$ervative to make CON$ look stupid and intolerant.

[L]iberals can't win in an argument against anybody. All they can do is discredit and insult and try to literally destroy their enemies because ideologically they can't win.
Rush Limbaugh

 

[midcan5]

Why would this surprise anyone? Consider birthers, astrology, ID, the election of Gorge W. Bush, the canonization of Ronald Reagan, the viewers of Fox news, the listeners of Limbaugh, the readers of Regnery press, 911 conspiracy fans, UHC as death medicine....one can go on and on. And while America is dumb most of the world is in the same boat. The enlightenment failed as the republicans on USMB prove daily.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average [republican] voter." Winston Churchill

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Why would this surprise anyone? Consider birthers, astrology, ID, the election of Gorge W. Bush, the canonization of Ronald Reagan, the viewers of Fox news, the listeners of Limbaugh, the readers of Regnery press, 911 conspiracy fans, UHC as death medicine....one can go on and on. And while America is dumb most of the world is in the same boat. The enlightenment failed as the republicans on USMB prove daily.

Amazon.com: The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future (Or, Don't Trust Anyone Under 30) (9781585426393): Mark Bauerlein: Books



"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill

What I love about this imbecile is how she quotes Churchill, as if that quote isn't targeted DIRECTLY at HER and her would be 'moderate' mindset... Nothing says moron like those who site history in the absence of any understanding of that history.

Funny stuff...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Let the record reflect that the ideological Left has been subject to a complete and total route on this thread...

There is not a single point which they've tried to advance which does not stand as THOROUGHLY discredited; and the proof of that will be the total absence of a single leftist advancing a single point which they feel remains whole...

Enjoy...

 

[Gudrid]

Is this Publius guy for real or a made up character for comedic sake? Somebody fill in the new kid here.

Publius, that was nonsensical, and I don't really feel like dealing with nonsensical stuff, so just a quick bit of advice. You posted a bunch of weirdness and universally applied it to leftists. Careful with that, unless you want to be equated with neo-nazis merely because they're on the right.

Last bit of advice: Dude, lay off the caps lock key.

So Neo-Nazis are right wingers?

ROFLMNAO...

Golly now, upon what might THAT be based? The Bigotry? The intolerance? The tendency towards tyrannical governance? The joining in collective groups towards sustaining and defending their collective interests?

*sigh*

The term neo-Nazism refers to post-World War II far right political movements, social movements, and ideologies seeking to revive Nazism

Neo-Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In contemporary politics, neofascists and neonazis are said to be far right.

Right-wing Politics Party Left National Political States

The were also classified as a rightwing extremist group by homeland security.

For future reference, this sort of information is just a google away.

 

[midcan5]

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill

What I love about this imbecile is how she quotes Churchill, as if that quote isn't targeted DIRECTLY at HER and her would be 'moderate' mindset... Nothing says moron like those who site history in the absence of any understanding of that history.

For you the quote has to be modified to 2 minutes max.

Is this Publius guy for real or a made up character for comedic sake? Somebody fill in the new kid here.

Sadly yes, he is what is commonly labeled a 'rational screwball' or nutcase. In his case, sense would never make sense. I once tried to see how far he would go in absurdity and there is no limit. Notice how he calls everyone 'she,' probably a real wuss in life who feels empowered by bizarre arguments that make sense only to him.

 

[midcan5]

There is not a single point which they've tried to advance which does not stand as THOROUGHLY discredited; and the proof of that will be the total absence of a single leftist advancing a single point which they feel remains whole...

I gave several examples above and there are tracks that demonstrate their proof: S&L, debtor nation, Enron, Bank failures, illegal invasions, more debt, Katrina ineptness, increase in poverty, sad HC, and finally almost complete economic decline.

And a Black man actually won the presidency, proof the stupidly is unevenly divided with you on their side, very uneven.


"Why Conservatives Can't Govern" by Alan Wolfe
Conservatism Is Dead
The Political Scene: The Fall of Conservatism : The New Yorker
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Paul Craig Roberts: The Mother of All Messes

 

[Toro]

Let the record reflect that the ideological Left has been subject to a complete and total route on this thread...

Gudrid

Inevitably, at some point, when everyone else has gotten bored with the thread and moved on, PI will mistake this boredom for what it is and declare himself a victor. He is the Black Knight of USMB.

[youtube]dhRUe-gz690[/youtube]

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Is this Publius guy for real or a made up character for comedic sake? Somebody fill in the new kid here.

Publius, that was nonsensical, and I don't really feel like dealing with nonsensical stuff, so just a quick bit of advice. You posted a bunch of weirdness and universally applied it to leftists. Careful with that, unless you want to be equated with neo-nazis merely because they're on the right.

Last bit of advice: Dude, lay off the caps lock key.

So Neo-Nazis are right wingers?

ROFLMNAO...

Golly now, upon what might THAT be based? The Bigotry? The intolerance? The tendency towards tyrannical governance? The joining in collective groups towards sustaining and defending their collective interests?

*sigh*

The term neo-Nazism refers to post-World War II far right political movements, social movements, and ideologies seeking to revive Nazism

Neo-Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In contemporary politics, neofascists and neonazis are said to be far right.

Right-wing Politics Party Left National Political States

The were also classified as a rightwing extremist group by homeland security.

For future reference, this sort of information is just a google away.

Golly... that's fascinatin'... Of course, it was "SAID" that spending TRILLIONS of dollars to bailout those large corporations which succumbed to Leftist Policy would create MILLIONS of jobs... and that wasn't true.

It was SAID that the Fascist were right wingers and THAT wasn't true...

It is SAID that the BOY King is a natural born US citizen who has presented his birth certificate to prove it and THAT isn't true...

Of course all of this falls under a long standing observation by one of Americas greatest thinkers... when during the hallmark 1964 campaign speech entitled "A Time for Choosing"; then California Governor Ronald Reagan observed: "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Nazism is not extreme Right Wing... Nazism is fascism; and in all of its forms fascism is PURELY, WHOLLY, UTTERLY, THORUGHLY... A Leftist ideology.

Basically, the Skin-heads of the Neo-Nazi group are militaristic; the Left likes to portray itself as Non-militaristic... that is simply a lie. The Skin-heads tend to be nationalistic, and the Left likes to portray itself as international-istic... that is until they're crying and ringing their hands over the assertion that THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS... but fascism; Nazism is simply the bonding of nationalism with socialism and while the pure Marxist consider this to be a "Right Wing" opposition to their particular brand of idiocy, Fascism and fascism... remains fatally flawed by the LEFT-THINK which rests at its foundation.

Which is to say that Nationalism is not a flaw of fascism... fascism is flawed by the absence of valid principle; a void which is replaced by socialism and it is THAT which both identifies fascism as Leftism... and that which dooms it to failure.

That the Left desperately needs to "SAY" that Neo-Nazism and fascism are "Right-wing" no more makes that true, than any of the other demonstrably false assertions which their ideology rests upon.

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Leftists...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill

What I love about this imbecile is how she quotes Churchill, as if that quote isn't targeted DIRECTLY at HER and her would be 'moderate' mindset... Nothing says moron like those who site history in the absence of any understanding of that history.

For you the quote has to be modified to 2 minutes max.

Now the interesting thing here, is that this dumbass MODIFIED the quote herself... And in so doing, flipped the quote 180 degrees out of its original context...

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average [republican] voter." Winston Churchill

Thus, as noted above, the member sought to use the credibility of Winston Churchill through advancing his thoughts; but because Churchill was an instinctive, unapologetic CONSERVATIVE... who targeted his comment to those of his day who resembled MIDCAN5's mindset; Midcan5 felt obligated to RETAIN THE CREDIBILITY OF CHURCHILL and simply REVISE THIS MESSAGE TO REFLECT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HIS INTENTION IN STATING IT.

The Left's entire history exist within such revisions... "Fascism is 'Right Wing," "Communism is Right Wing..." and so on are ALL part and parcel of a revision of the historical record, which must take place in order for the left to maintain ANY relevance which must stand upon some discernible credibility. Given that the record of History thoroughly discredits the whole of the ideological Left, it is imperative that they CHANGE that history; which amounts to little more than a damnable LIE!

Which is all the post to which this responds amounts to... It's an attempt by a Leftist to portray themselves as the intellectual superiors to their opposition; while violating the bed-rock ethics on which intellectualism rests. Thus what we' are seeing is a distorted rationalization; a tale born in sophistry... where the sub-par intellect is unable to recognize the inherent flaws in their most deeply held ideas; and revises the record to suit what THEY feel the record 'SHOULD BE!' or otherwise WOULD BE, if their reasoning was sound.

Is this Publius guy for real or a made up character for comedic sake? Somebody fill in the new kid here.

Sadly yes, he is what is commonly labeled a 'rational screwball' or nutcase. In his case, sense would never make sense. I once tried to see how far he would go in absurdity and there is no limit. Notice how he calls everyone 'she,' probably a real wuss in life who feels empowered by bizarre arguments that make sense only to him.

Here we find the sub-par intellect again trying to rationalize their intellectual failure; and in so doing attempting to change the subject, so that THIS RECORD will less reflect that failure...

It's merely a micro-example of the same species of spurious reasoning which has provided for the present economic failure of the US and the Global economy itself.

The policies which are at the root of the present economic depression are Leftist policy... but what we find below are rationalizations which hope to spin a sophist tale which equates to the same revisionist 'feelings' that have long since converted the Socialism of fascism to "Right Wing" and is presently working quite hard to do the same to COMMUNISM.

They yank idividual entities which they represent as being part and parcel of the ideological RIGHT... Ie: Corporations et al... set them as examples of entities which spoiled the economy and reject ANY reasoning which sets those entities in a policy stream; policy which caused the problem; policy to which those entities reacted and summarily succumbed... and this because where the discussion recognizes that LEFTIST POLICY; ANY REASONABLE OBSERVER MUST RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROBLEM WAS CREATED BY THE POLICY AND THE POLICY IS DECIDEDLY LEFTIST... and THAT doesn't reflect their most closely held 'feelings' nor sustain their audacious HOPE FOR CHANGE!

I gave several examples above and there are tracks that demonstrate their proof: S&L, debtor nation, Enron, Bank failures, illegal invasions, more debt, Katrina ineptness, increase in poverty, sad HC, and finally almost complete economic decline.

Policy initiatives of the Ideological Left stand at the root of every single one of those would-be examples...

Of course, the simple, but wholly incontrovertible fact is that Leftist policy sets aside the immutable principles of nature; thus it is doomed to failure and this without exception. And when such failures come to pass the Left reacts in two ways...

First they POINT a decrepid finger at "Republicans" that voted for the Bill that preceded the Law... demanding that such represents the CONSERVATIVE roots of the policy and Second, where they cannot avoid what would otherwise amount to RESPONSIBILITY for such; they demand that the predictable and PREDICTED results, were "UNINTENDED CONSEQUNCES" that were impossible to foresee... despite the irrefutable record wherein precisely such was foreseen by everyone who oppossed the legislation. Then they further demand that they were NEVER in favor of the legislation and simply ignore the video-tape evidence of them standing on the floor of the House and Senate, vociferously promoting the policy.

There's nothing particularly complicated about this... it's simply well beyond the intellectual means of the common Leftist to comprehend... and there's nothing new there.

 

[Gudrid]

Nazism is not extreme Right Wing... Nazism is fascism; and in all of its forms fascism is PURELY, WHOLLY, UTTERLY, THORUGHLY... A Leftist ideology.

Ok, I understand you tell yourself that, but in the real world they're classified as a far right extremist group. Not by leftist groups; by academics and political analysts. Sorry if that rocks your world, but that's the way it is. You don't get to change reality to suit you - and trying to do so is known as "delusion."

First time I've ever seen Homeland Security referred to as leftist though. Comedy at its finest.

 

[edthecynic]

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill

What I love about this imbecile is how she quotes Churchill, as if that quote isn't targeted DIRECTLY at HER and her would be 'moderate' mindset... Nothing says moron like those who site history in the absence of any understanding of that history.

For you the quote has to be modified to 2 minutes max.

Now the interesting thing here, is that this dumbass MODIFIED the quote herself... And in so doing, flipped the quote 180 degrees out of its original context...

Thus, as noted above, the member sought to use the credibility of Winston Churchill through advancing his thoughts; but because Churchill was an instinctive, unapologetic CONSERVATIVE... who targeted his comment to those of his day who resembled MIDCAN5's mindset; Midcan5 felt obligated to RETAIN THE CREDIBILITY OF CHURCHILL and simply REVISE THIS MESSAGE TO REFLECT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HIS INTENTION IN STATING IT.

The Left's entire history exist within such revisions... "Fascism is 'Right Wing," "Communism is Right Wing..." and so on are ALL part and parcel of a revision of the historical record, which must take place in order for the left to maintain ANY relevance which must stand upon some discernible credibility. Given that the record of History thoroughly discredits the whole of the ideological Left, it is imperative that they CHANGE that history; which amounts to little more than a damnable LIE!

Again, you are clearly a "Leftist" trying to make CON$ look stupid, and doing a good job of it.

Sir Winston Churchill (prime minister of United Kingdom) :: As Liberal minister -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
Sir Winston Churchill

As Liberal minister prime minister of United Kingdomin full Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill born Nov. 30, 1874, Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire, Eng. died Jan. 24, 1965, London

Political career before 1939 » As Liberal minister

In 1904 the Conservative government found itself impaled on a dilemma by Colonial Secretary Joseph Chamberlain’s open advocacy of a tariff. Churchill, a convinced free trader, helped to found the Free Food League. He was disavowed by his constituents and became increasingly alienated from his party. In 1904 he joined the Liberals and won renown for the audacity of his attacks on Chamberlain and Balfour. The radical elements in his political makeup came to the surface under the influence of two colleagues in particular, John Morley, a political legatee of W.E. Gladstone, and David Lloyd George, the rising Welsh orator and firebrand. In the ensuing general election in 1906 he secured a notable victory in Manchester and began his ministerial career in the new Liberal government as undersecretary of state for the colonies. He soon gained credit for his able defense of the policy of conciliation and self-government in South Africa. When the ministry was reconstructed under Prime Minister Herbert H. Asquith in 1908, Churchill was promoted to president of the Board of Trade, with a seat in the Cabinet. Defeated at the ensuing by-election in Manchester, he won an election at Dundee. In the same year he married the beautiful Clementine Hozier; it was a marriage of unbroken affection that provided a secure and happy background for his turbulent career.
At the Board of trade, Churchill emerged as a leader in the movement of Liberalism away from laissez-faire toward social reform. He completed the work begun by his predecessor, Lloyd George, on the bill imposing an eight-hour maximum day for miners. He himself was responsible for attacking the evils of “sweated” labour by setting up trade boards with power to fix minimum wages and for combating unemployment by instituting state-run labour exchanges.
When this Liberal program necessitated high taxation, which in turn provoked the House of Lords to the revolutionary step of rejecting the budget of 1909, Churchill was Lloyd George’s closest ally in developing the provocative strategy designed to clip the wings of the upper chamber. Churchill became president of the Budget League, and his oratorical broadsides at the House of Lords were as lively and devastating as Lloyd George’s own. Indeed Churchill, as an alleged traitor to his class, earned the lion’s share of Tory animosity. His campaigning in the two general elections of 1910 and in the House of Commons during the passage of the Parliament Act of 1911, which curbed the House of Lords’ powers, won him wide popular acclaim. In the Cabinet his reward was promotion to the office of home secretary. Here, despite substantial achievements in prison reform, he had to devote himself principally to coping with a sweeping wave of industrial unrest and violent strikes. Upon occasion his relish for dramatic action led him beyond the limits of his proper role as the guarantor of public order. For this he paid a heavy price in incurring the long-standing suspicion of organized labour.
In 1911 the provocative German action in sending a gunboat to Agadir, the Moroccan port to which France had claims, convinced Churchill that in any major Franco-German conflict Britain would have to be at France’s side. When transferred to the Admiralty in October 1911, he went to work with a conviction of the need to bring the navy to a pitch of instant readiness. His first task was the creation of a naval war staff. To help Britain’s lead over steadily mounting German naval power, Churchill successfully campaigned in the Cabinet for the largest naval expenditure in British history. Despite his inherited Tory views on Ireland, he wholeheartedly embraced the Liberal policy of Home Rule, moving the second reading of the Irish Home Rule Bill of 1912 and campaigning for it in the teeth of Unionist opposition. Although, through his friendship with F.E. Smith (later 1st earl of Birkenhead) and Austen Chamberlain, he did much to arrange the compromise by which Ulster was to be excluded from the immediate effect of the bill, no member of the government was more bitterly abused—by Tories as a renegade and by extreme Home Rulers as a defector.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Nazism is not extreme Right Wing... Nazism is fascism; and in all of its forms fascism is PURELY, WHOLLY, UTTERLY, THORUGHLY... A Leftist ideology.

Ok, I understand you tell yourself that, but in the real world they're classified as a far right extremist group. Not by leftist groups; by academics and political analysts. Sorry if that rocks your world, but that's the way it is. You don't get to change reality to suit you - and trying to do so is known as "delusion."

First time I've ever seen Homeland Security referred to as leftist though. Comedy at its finest.

National Socialist Democratic Party doesn't sound right wing to me.

 

[Gudrid]

So what? It's ain't about what it sounds like to you. It's about what it is like.

Nazi Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Political Ideology National Socialism
Political Position Far Right

Once again, a system was created for measuring these things. That's where they fall on the scale based on analysis by people far more qualified to do so than you or I, and with no inherent interest in saying they're one side or other.

More useful reading:
Right-wing politics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This conversation is stunning. I suppose I could rewrite reality to suit me if I wanted, but you don't learn much about the world that way.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Nazism is not extreme Right Wing... Nazism is fascism; and in all of its forms fascism is PURELY, WHOLLY, UTTERLY, THORUGHLY... A Leftist ideology.

Ok, I understand you tell yourself that, but in the real world they're classified as a far right extremist group. Not by leftist groups; by academics and political analysts. Sorry if that rocks your world, but that's the way it is. You don't get to change reality to suit you - and trying to do so is known as "delusion."

First time I've ever seen Homeland Security referred to as leftist though. Comedy at its finest.

Well Ok... So what you're saying is that you simply prefer to set aside reason and render the burden of thought to the High Academic Priests who, through their insightful edict have determined that the militant collectivist of the New Nazis are Right Wingers... as they had earlier expressed was the case with the Old Nazis...

In effect demonstrating your own intellecual limitations; limitations common to the ideological left.

Now for my fellow boardmembers... when speaking to this newb, understand that she tends towards fallacious reasoning, in this case her argument is framed in Ad populum terms, wherein Nazis are Right Wingers because someone else told her so... essentially, "Nazis are Right-wingers" is the popular concensus, therefore it is the accurate concensus; she backs that drivel up with another fallacious appeal to the academic authority... which is mired with the previous failure, thus it's a wonderful example of a nasty intellectual trainwreck.

Understand that she is absolutely incapable of forming an argument wherein she would demonstrate the 'Right Wing' traits common to these particular, would-be 'Right wingers'; but that's understandable, because none of her sourced references have managed to do so either and she is simply parroting those idiots.

But such is the nature of the Sub-par intellect; and, towards further reinforcing the point, through demonstrating commonality... between this Leftist and the Skin-heads which she blindly asserts are her ideological opposite; if you've ever listened to a Neo-Nazi speak... the FIRST thing that comes to mind is that the speaker is an imbecile and tends towards regurgitating mindless edicts, decrees and the specious reasoning of other imbeciles.

LOL...
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Leftists...

 

[Gudrid]

Well Ok... So what you're saying is that you simply prefer to set aside reason and render the burden of thought to the High Academic Priests who, through their insightful edict have determined that the militant collectivist of the New Nazis are Right Wingers... as they had earlier expressed was the case with the Old Nazis...

No, I'm saying I prefer to live in the world of reality rather than delusion. You clearly have chosen the path of delusion over reality. That's up to you, but please be aware that there are medications that can help you with that.

Or perhaps you're just too dumb to understand how standards work. Makes no difference - either way, you're wrong and have been reduced to redefining reality. Nice try though.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

So what? It's ain't about what it sounds like to you. It's about what it is like.

Nazi Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Political Ideology National Socialism
Political Position Far Right

Once again, a system was created for measuring these things. That's where they fall on the scale based on analysis by people far more qualified to do so than you or I, and with no inherent interest in saying they're one side or other.

More useful reading:
Right-wing politics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This conversation is stunning. I suppose I could rewrite reality to suit me if I wanted, but you don't learn much about the world that way.

Lets just take a second to examine this element of the overall catastrophically failed conclusion...

Understand the terms of relevant here...

"Far-Right"...

Now National Socialism is distinct from international socialism; Ie: Marxism, by the singular facet that Nationalism is distinct from international-ism.

Thus for National Socialism to be "FAR to the Right" of the observer, the Observer must be FAR to the Left of the subject; ergo, where Fascism; OKA: National Socialism, to be "FAR Right," the observer MUST BE A FULL BLOWN, TRUE BELIEVING, AUDACIOUS HOPER OF UTOPIA... the common advocate of the socialist international...

Now the problem for this newb is that she reads the conclusions of these Marxist fucks, as have the geniuses over at HLS... and they advance these terms in the total absence of their relative nature... Thus the imbecile reads that "fascism' is far-right; and being wholly igorant of the relevance of that perspective, simply repeats that 'fascism is far right' and the revision of history is complete. At least until such time that the idiocy finds itself being presented to a NON-IDIOT... which is the case here.

Far right... FTR: is total freedom absent the need for any over-riding authority in that every member exists understanding, respecting and maintianing their divine endowement of unalienable rights; holdthemselves and their naighbors accountable to the intrinsic responsibilities inherent in those rights; and as such overtly defends their rights through not exercising their rights to the detriment of the rights of others...

Not a whole helluva lot of room in that for people who claim a "RIGHT" to the product of another's labor to subsidize the ethereal 'needs' of others... as is front and center in the Skin-head Nazi, German Nazi and Italian Fascisti and American Progressive, and all other LEFTIST 'movements'...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

For you the quote has to be modified to 2 minutes max.

Now the interesting thing here, is that this dumbass MODIFIED the quote herself... And in so doing, flipped the quote 180 degrees out of its original context...

Thus, as noted above, the member sought to use the credibility of Winston Churchill through advancing his thoughts; but because Churchill was an instinctive, unapologetic CONSERVATIVE... who targeted his comment to those of his day who resembled MIDCAN5's mindset; Midcan5 felt obligated to RETAIN THE CREDIBILITY OF CHURCHILL and simply REVISE THIS MESSAGE TO REFLECT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HIS INTENTION IN STATING IT.

The Left's entire history exist within such revisions... "Fascism is 'Right Wing," "Communism is Right Wing..." and so on are ALL part and parcel of a revision of the historical record, which must take place in order for the left to maintain ANY relevance which must stand upon some discernible credibility. Given that the record of History thoroughly discredits the whole of the ideological Left, it is imperative that they CHANGE that history; which amounts to little more than a damnable LIE!

Again, you are clearly a "Leftist" trying to make CON$ look stupid, and doing a good job of it.

Sir Winston Churchill (prime minister of United Kingdom) :: As Liberal minister -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
Sir Winston Churchill

As Liberal minister prime minister of United Kingdomin full Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill born Nov. 30, 1874, Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire, Eng. died Jan. 24, 1965, London

Political career before 1939 » As Liberal minister

In 1904 the Conservative government found itself impaled on a dilemma by Colonial Secretary Joseph Chamberlain’s open advocacy of a tariff. Churchill, a convinced free trader, helped to found the Free Food League. He was disavowed by his constituents and became increasingly alienated from his party. In 1904 he joined the Liberals and won renown for the audacity of his attacks on Chamberlain and Balfour. The radical elements in his political makeup came to the surface under the influence of two colleagues in particular, John Morley, a political legatee of W.E. Gladstone, and David Lloyd George, the rising Welsh orator and firebrand. In the ensuing general election in 1906 he secured a notable victory in Manchester and began his ministerial career in the new Liberal government as undersecretary of state for the colonies. He soon gained credit for his able defense of the policy of conciliation and self-government in South Africa. When the ministry was reconstructed under Prime Minister Herbert H. Asquith in 1908, Churchill was promoted to president of the Board of Trade, with a seat in the Cabinet. Defeated at the ensuing by-election in Manchester, he won an election at Dundee. In the same year he married the beautiful Clementine Hozier; it was a marriage of unbroken affection that provided a secure and happy background for his turbulent career.
At the Board of trade, Churchill emerged as a leader in the movement of Liberalism away from laissez-faire toward social reform. He completed the work begun by his predecessor, Lloyd George, on the bill imposing an eight-hour maximum day for miners. He himself was responsible for attacking the evils of “sweated” labour by setting up trade boards with power to fix minimum wages and for combating unemployment by instituting state-run labour exchanges.
When this Liberal program necessitated high taxation, which in turn provoked the House of Lords to the revolutionary step of rejecting the budget of 1909, Churchill was Lloyd George’s closest ally in developing the provocative strategy designed to clip the wings of the upper chamber. Churchill became president of the Budget League, and his oratorical broadsides at the House of Lords were as lively and devastating as Lloyd George’s own. Indeed Churchill, as an alleged traitor to his class, earned the lion’s share of Tory animosity. His campaigning in the two general elections of 1910 and in the House of Commons during the passage of the Parliament Act of 1911, which curbed the House of Lords’ powers, won him wide popular acclaim. In the Cabinet his reward was promotion to the office of home secretary. Here, despite substantial achievements in prison reform, he had to devote himself principally to coping with a sweeping wave of industrial unrest and violent strikes. Upon occasion his relish for dramatic action led him beyond the limits of his proper role as the guarantor of public order. For this he paid a heavy price in incurring the long-standing suspicion of organized labour.
In 1911 the provocative German action in sending a gunboat to Agadir, the Moroccan port to which France had claims, convinced Churchill that in any major Franco-German conflict Britain would have to be at France’s side. When transferred to the Admiralty in October 1911, he went to work with a conviction of the need to bring the navy to a pitch of instant readiness. His first task was the creation of a naval war staff. To help Britain’s lead over steadily mounting German naval power, Churchill successfully campaigned in the Cabinet for the largest naval expenditure in British history. Despite his inherited Tory views on Ireland, he wholeheartedly embraced the Liberal policy of Home Rule, moving the second reading of the Irish Home Rule Bill of 1912 and campaigning for it in the teeth of Unionist opposition. Although, through his friendship with F.E. Smith (later 1st earl of Birkenhead) and Austen Chamberlain, he did much to arrange the compromise by which Ulster was to be excluded from the immediate effect of the bill, no member of the government was more bitterly abused—by Tories as a renegade and by extreme Home Rulers as a defector.

ROFLMNAO... Isn't it wonderful how the terms of relevance just FUCK THESE IDIOTS UP?

Hysterical... On several levels and in at least two contexts...