Big Goverment in Arizona by GOPer Brewer

What is not in error is that the states end up, whether by hook or crook, funding a significant portion of MEDICAID .

That's because Medicaid is a state-administered program. Your "inadvertent reference" seems to extend into conceptualizing Medicaid as "Medicare for the poor." It isn't. There's one Medicare program; there are, however, 50-odd Medicaid programs. The reason, of course, is that states design their own Medicaid programs. Nowhere is this more true than in Arizona, which operates its entire program under an 1115 demonstration waiver, which is just about the maximum flexibility you can get and still receive federal money.

Where the feds enter the picture is with financial assistance to states: if the state agrees to meet (fairly low) standards, the feds will give them at least a dollar--and, for all but the wealthiest states, it's more than a dollar--for each health dollar the state spends on its qualifying populations. In other words, states trade some amount of flexibility (while still retaining a large amount) for a good sum of federal matching funds. Every single jurisdiction has judged this tradeoff to be a good deal, which is why every single one has chosen to pursue it.

Those that have done analysis in the wake of the ACA to examine whether this will no longer be a good deal with the new eligibility requirements in 2014 has ended up concluding that, indeed, it's still a good deal for the state and forgoing the federal money in exchange for total programmatic flexibility is not in the best interest of the state.

States fund a good portion of Medicaid because it's their program. A more accurate way to put it is that the federal government funds 50%+ of every state's unique medical assistance program.



So, where the feds get the money, the Tooth Fairy?...Lucky the Leprechaun?...Santa Claus, maybe?

They have plenty of paper to print money on, they never run out.
 
The topic in the OP is MEDICAID.

If I inadvertently referenced MEDICARE, that's my mistake.

What is not in error is that the states end up, whether by hook or crook, funding a significant portion of MEDICAID .

Now, the moocher class, along with their fifth columnist enablers in politics and the media, piss and moan that they can't live a life of total irresponsibility and still get their freebie form Big Daddy Big Gubmint.

Well, my heart pumps purple peanut butter for the moocher class.

"The topic in the OP is MEDICAID" Oddball

No it isn't. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? The topic is government telling you want to do, Big Government by Tea Party fav Jan Brewer.
I just knew you and your far right buds would deny and deflect Brewer's Big Government move. You folks get all riled up about smokers rights calling for Big Government to get off your ass. You folks bash Michelle Obama for her comments on obesity, yet "mum is the word" when Brewer tries to get a actual law regarding obesity.
Talk about solid convictions!!!:clap2:

No it isn't.

The topic people being responsible for their choices. You object to that, I do not. The fact that you are so invested in your position that no one should ever have to pay for anything forces you to object to common sense approaches to reduce the price you have to pay for other people's bad choices just shows you are consistently obsessed. The additional fact that you think this involves big government just indicates how incapable you are of thinking for yourself.

The only people this will affect are people who both choose to take government run health care, and then choose to ignore their doctors advice to improve their health. If they do not take the government money they do not pay more. If the take government money and work on their health problems they do not pay.

This simply proves that all the rhetoric about using health care to control costs is a lie.
 
Funny how Oddball wants to change the topic into something else. Brewer is legislating what Michelle Obama suggested. I thought the righties were against that?

And the only response given is "that's different"

In a way it IS different....

Children do not normally get to make choices for themselves. I don't know too many kids who feed themselves. In general they eat what is presented to them by their parents. So in reality it should be a matter of teaching the parents what appropriate foods are, not flat out denying the children access to certain foods that they enjoy.

Adults are a different topic, alltogether. An adult has the CHOICE of what to eat, whether to smoke, drink, do drugs, etc... They actively choose to engage in what is a less healthy and more costly lifestyle. What Governor Brewer is doing does not force these people to eat healthy. It doesn't force them to stop smoking. They can continue to do these things. However, if they make that choice, they will be forced to pay a premium in order to do so.

It's a matter of Confiscation vs. Consequences.

So children do not get to make choices but we should not deny access to certain foods? Why, you said they do not get to make choices?

I understand one involves children and the other Adults but that is the only difference, but you're for that, right?
 
I don't see how anyone can defend this. But there should be agreement on this for the Big Government Goose Steppers. But instead dishonesty & hypocrisy will win the day once again. If you're a Big Government Socialist/Progressive you will probably be in support of this. It's only the 'R' by her name that's keeping you from expressing such support. And it works vice-versa for the Big Government Neocons. If a 'D' proposed this,they would vehemently oppose it. So their disagreement on this is all partisan Bullshit. Many Democrats across the country have mandated these very same requirements. Personally i think the Big Government Goose Steppers are wrong on this. It really is Un-American. I just wish we could all agree on that.
 
I don't see how anyone can defend this. But there should be agreement on this for the Big Government Goose Steppers. But instead dishonesty & hypocrisy will win the day once again. If you're a Big Government Socialist/Progressive you will probably be in support of this. It's only the 'R' by her name that's keeping you from expressing such support. And it works vice-versa for the Big Government Neocons. If a 'D' proposed this,they would vehemently oppose it. So their disagreement on this is all partisan Bullshit. Many Democrats across the country have mandated these very same requirements. Personally i think the Big Government Goose Steppers are wrong on this. It really is Un-American. I just wish we could all agree on that.

I have defended it, and all you can talk about is something that is completely unrelated to my points. Good job.
 

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