Biden's argument to withdrawal from Afghanistan

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    His argument was that if we don't withdrawal our troop presence, that the Afghanis will always remain dependent on us and never stand up for themselves and defend themselves.

    Think about that for a little bit. That argument completely underminds the past century of Democrat politics.
     
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    no kiding.....when did democrats want to throw people to the wolves and gain self sufficiency?
     
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    I thought that exact thing, about their stance on welfare.

    It was the only good point he made all night. Eventually you have to force those people to take care of their own shit. I actually agree with that. But where Biden lost it was saying that we just pull out no matter what in 2014. Really Joe? Even if AQ sets up shop within the Taliban again? :eusa_hand:
     
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    Biden didn't grasp how putting a timeline on ceasing Military operations endangers our National Security. Ryan nailed him good with the fact that it empowers our enemies to wait timelines out, and resume their despicable behavior after our troops have left... Biden really isn't as swift as his base would have people believe.
     
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    I think Paul Ryan's point was if you give a date to leave the enemy will hold back then attack. My opinion also was that his point was they don't have the tools to do the job
     
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    The point is, he doesn't seem to realize his argument completely undermines the last century of Democrat welfare state policies.
     
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    Republicans sent American soldiers off to Iraq in old and rusty equipment.

    Iraq-bound soldiers confront Rumsfeld over lack of armor | The San Diego Union-Tribune

    What Republicans said:

    You go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time

    The Obama administration trained over 300,000 soldiers in Afghanistan. A few have been hidden terrorists. It happens. Even one is too many.

    But to stay forever only puts Americans in danger. Tell them you are leaving and they have to "step up" knowing we will be gone. It becomes a matter of survival for them.
     
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    You mean like a work requirement if you receive welfare? Cuz that's how it is since Clinton.
     
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    I think his continued shrieking about how we don't want to send Americans where it's dangerous will be viewed by most Americans, when it registers, as a commentary on American cowardice/inability to deal.
     
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    You mean the requirement Republicans dragged him to and that Obama has been undercutting?

    No. I mean the entitlement mentality completely.
     

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