Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism

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Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Biden says he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama want to “take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people



Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism - America’s Election HQ




Why dosen't he just say the words wealth redistribution? Is that so hard?

I completely agree with you.

Yes, wealth distribution in the form of free education right on trhough to doctorate levels and free health care for all seems like an excellent way to help respond to the enormous income inequitey of this nation.

Of course the devil is, as always in the details.
 
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Biden says he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama want to “take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people


Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism - America’s Election HQ




Why dosen't he just say the words wealth redistribution? Is that so hard?

Wealth distribution has already been done, they are taking the money we, the working class, paid for Social Security and used it....to give the wealthiest an income tax cut...

REVERSE ROBINHOOD

Taking from the middle class and the poor who pay SS taxes on all that they make and giving it to the wealthiest in an income tax break....stealing from the middle and poor to feed the RICHEST among us!!!!

YEAH

WEALTH DISTRIBUTION if there ever was any..... :eek: sad!
 
What a bunch of crap. The republican party has been waging class warfare since Reagan. Now it's all the Dems.

Progressive taxes are not class warfare.

How many on these threads make over 250,000. Just interested.
 
I completely agree with you.

Yes, wealth distribution in the form of free education right on trhough to doctorate levels and free health care for all seems like an excellent way to help respond to the enormous income inequitey of this nation.

Of course the devil is, as always in the details.




but you left out the part about taxing so highly you leave no incentive, no incentive no investment. no investment no business, no business no money, no money no taxes, no taxes no education, no health care. In short whatcha gonna do when ya got more takers than you have givers???? Got a back up plan????
 
I hope you people are smart enough to realize that when the rich get taxed more, they raise the cost of their goods and pay their employees less.

No, I don't make $250,000 a year, but my boss does. And I don't think he'd be happy with a...what was it - 12%, 18% - tax increase. You idiots see these charts that show Obama lowering all the taxes for "middle class" by less than 5% and you that big tax increase on the wealthy and get all giddy and think, "YES! Finally the people who own their own businesses are getting their just-dos! I get a tax cut and they have to pay more. Nyah nyah nyah nyah!"

Seriously, don't you understand how taxation works? Businesses don't pay taxes, they make you pay taxes for them by raising the price of their goods and services. Then they donate large amounts of money to charity for tax breaks.

Sigh...if only you understand...
 
I hope you people are smart enough to realize that when the rich get taxed more, they raise the cost of their goods and pay their employees less.

No, I don't make $250,000 a year, but my boss does. And I don't think he'd be happy with a...what was it - 12%, 18% - tax increase. You idiots see these charts that show Obama lowering all the taxes for "middle class" by less than 5% and you that big tax increase on the wealthy and get all giddy and think, "YES! Finally the people who own their own businesses are getting their just-dos! I get a tax cut and they have to pay more. Nyah nyah nyah nyah!"

Seriously, don't you understand how taxation works? Businesses don't pay taxes, they make you pay taxes for them by raising the price of their goods and services. Then they donate large amounts of money to charity for tax breaks.

Sigh...if only you understand...

so individual income that is suseptible to income tax is NOW ALL Business money and not people's individual income?

And if you are speaking of Corporate/business taxes, it is true that it is passed on to the consumer....the CONSUMER that is actually BUYING the Service or product, which is how it should be....

Those NOT BUYING what the corporations are selling should not be paying the corps taxes, don't ya think Sanders?

care
 
I would love to be able to pay ONLY 35% in taxes on my profits after all of my EXPENSES ARE PAID!

i'd be paying near zero taxes on my gross income if i could deduct all travel for getting to work, my food, my insurance, paying my maid, all my medical expenses, all my purchases to keep my household together, my electric, my fuel etc.... :D
 
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Biden says he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama want to “take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people



Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism - America’s Election HQ



Why dosen't he just say the words wealth redistribution? Is that so hard?

You know who else said the wealthy should pay more to show patriotism?

Lenin, Marx, and Stalin.
 
What a bunch of crap. The republican party has been waging class warfare since Reagan. Now it's all the Dems.

Progressive taxes are not class warfare.

How many on these threads make over 250,000. Just interested.

not me that's for sure!
 
I'm still waiting to find out what happens when the takers outnumber the givers. Got a back up plan.


ps, tax the corporations into moving to another country and taking their jobs and tax money with them. Good plan Obama.


now back to that backup plan.
 
You know who else said the wealthy should pay more to show patriotism?

Lenin, Marx, and Stalin.


we have a progressive income tax because ALL americans that instituted it felt it was ONLY FAIR....

are you saying they have been wrong for decades or a near century?

Well, i disagree with you Charles, America ADVANCED and built a strong middle class due to it....which only lead the wealthy to become wealthier...

without a strong middle class, this economy goes in the pooper...and that's what is happening now....
 
but you left out the part about taxing so highly you leave no incentive, no incentive no investment. no investment no business, no business no money, no money no taxes, no taxes no education, no health care. In short whatcha gonna do when ya got more takers than you have givers???? Got a back up plan????

A not entirely invalid complaint. Of course if we make no changes to our system except that start paying for all health care and education, we certainly couldn't sustain that, could we?

Yes I might have left out one or two million details for that plan.

Glad you were paying attention.

Hence, my caveat that the devil is in the details.
 
A not entirely invalid complaint. Of course if we make no changes to our system except that start paying for all health care and education, we certainly couldn't sustain that, could we?

Yes I might have left out one or two million details for that plan.

Glad you were paying attention.

Hence, my caveat that the devil is in the details.




so what would you envision the backup plan to be exactly?
 
we have a progressive income tax because ALL americans that instituted it felt it was ONLY FAIR....

are you saying they have been wrong for decades or a near century?

Well, i disagree with you Charles, America ADVANCED and built a strong middle class due to it....which only lead the wealthy to become wealthier...

without a strong middle class, this economy goes in the pooper...and that's what is happening now....


You read an awful lot into what I said.

I simply stated that the Idea that the Wealth must pay more to Show Patriotism, is an Idea of Communist, and extreme Socialists.
 
we have a progressive income tax because ALL americans that instituted it felt it was ONLY FAIR....

are you saying they have been wrong for decades or a near century?

Well, i disagree with you Charles, America ADVANCED and built a strong middle class due to it....which only lead the wealthy to become wealthier...

without a strong middle class, this economy goes in the pooper...and that's what is happening now....

Are we wrong to claim to be a country of equality with a punishment based tax system?? YOU BET YOUR ASS WE ARE

And 'felt' is not a way to run a government... the other emotions 'felt' by those who WANT wealth redistribution, inequality, and class warfare are Envy, Greed, and a feeling that they are entitled to things instead of being free to obtain them by their own actions if those actions are worth the compensation they are looking for
 
Are we wrong to claim to be a country of equality with a punishment based tax system?? YOU BET YOUR ASS WE ARE

And 'felt' is not a way to run a government... the other emotions 'felt' by those who WANT wealth redistribution, inequality, and class warfare are Envy, Greed, and a feeling that they are entitled to things instead of being free to obtain them by their own actions if those actions are worth the compensation they are looking for


so how do you judge the taking from the middle and the poor by taking their social security taxes and giving the wealthiest an income tax break with it?

care
 
so how do you judge the taking from the middle and the poor by taking their social security taxes and giving the wealthiest an income tax break with it?

care

Fair, since the wealthiest were already paying more in taxes.

Social Security is a sham. It needs to be eliminated, ASAP. Americans should be responsible for their own retirement. I put 10% of my after-tax income into retirement, and I still don't feel like I'm saving enough. If people think Social Security alone is going to pay for their retirement, they're insane.

Again, it all boils down to people thinking the government should do everything for them. "Save for my retirement. Bail me out if I can't pay my mortgage. Give me healthcare." That's not what the government was created for. That's the type of government that keeps people poor and ignorant.
 

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