Bible vs Qur'an, authenticity

[Ahmad]

Where the rubber meets the road is where Islam and Judaism state that Jesus is not a God. However, we found that Jesus died on the cross in order to save humankind, was buried and rose again on the third day. This is irrefutable and why both Islam and Judaism are false teachings. There is only one true religion and that is Christianity.

How is that irrefutable ?

 

[Ahmad]

The Qur'an is a book God Almighty gave Muhammad (peace be upon him), just as He gave Jesus the Injeel, Moses the Tawra, and David the Zabur (Psalms in english), peace be upon them.

Can one possibly say that these words are human ?

In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.

1. The Compassionate.

2. Has taught the Quran.

3. He created man.

4. And taught him clear expression.

5. The sun and the moon move according to plan.

6. And the stars and the trees prostrate themselves.

7. And the sky, He raised; and He set up the balance.

8. So do not transgress in the balance.

9. But maintain the weights with justice, and do not violate the balance.

10. And the earth; He set up for the creatures.

11. In it are fruits, and palms in clusters.

12. And grains in the blades, and fragrant plants.

13. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

14. He created man from hard clay, like bricks.

15. And created the jinn from a fusion of fire.

16. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

17. Lord of the two Easts and Lord of the two Wests.

18. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

19. He merged the two seas, converging together.

20. Between them is a barrier, which they do not overrun.

21. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

22. From them emerge pearls and coral.

23. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

24. His are the ships, raised above the sea like landmarks.

25. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

26. Everyone upon it is perishing.

27. But will remain the Presence of your Lord, Full of Majesty and Splendor.

28. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

29. Everyone in the heavens and the earth asks Him. Every day He is managing.

30. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

31. We will attend to you, O prominent two.

32. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

33. O society of jinn and humans! If you can pass through the bounds of the heavens and the earth, go ahead and pass. But you will not pass except with authorization.

34. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

35. You will be bombarded with flares of fire and brass, and you will not succeed.

36. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

37. When the sky splits apart, and becomes rose, like paint.

38. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

39. On that Day, no human and no jinn will be asked about his sins.

40. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

41. The guilty will be recognized by their marks; they will be taken by the forelocks and the feet.

42. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

43. This is Hell that the guilty denied.

44. They circulate between it and between a seething bath.

45. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

46. But for him who feared the standing of his Lord are two gardens.

47. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

48. Full of varieties.

49. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

50. In them are two flowing springs.

51. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

52. In them are fruits of every kind, in pairs.

53. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

54. Reclining on furnishings lined with brocade, and the fruits of the two gardens are near at hand.

55. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

56. In them are maidens restraining their glances, untouched before by any man or jinn.

57. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

58. As though they were rubies and corals.

59. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

60. Is the reward of goodness anything but goodness?

61. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

62. And beneath them are two gardens.

63. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

64. Deep green.

65. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

66. In them are two gushing springs.

67. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

68. In them are fruits, and date-palms, and pomegranates.

69. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

70. In them are good and beautiful ones.

71. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

72. Companions, secluded in the tents.

73. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

74. Whom no human has touched before, nor jinn.

75. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

76. Reclining on green cushions, and exquisite carpets.

77. So which of your Lord’s marvels will you deny?

78. Blessed be the name of your Lord, Full of Majesty and Splendor.

Again, does anyone actually think that these words are human ?

 

[james bond]

Where the rubber meets the road is where Islam and Judaism state that Jesus is not a God. However, we found that Jesus died on the cross in order to save humankind, was buried and rose again on the third day. This is irrefutable and why both Islam and Judaism are false teachings. There is only one true religion and that is Christianity.

And therein lies the problem with religious fanatics.

Nothing fanatical. Just one truth. Atheism as a religion is wrong, too. They believe in no gods or God.

 

[james bond]

Where the rubber meets the road is where Islam and Judaism state that Jesus is not a God. However, we found that Jesus died on the cross in order to save humankind, was buried and rose again on the third day. This is irrefutable and why both Islam and Judaism are false teachings. There is only one true religion and that is Christianity.

How is that irrefutable ?

It's based on historical or forensic evidence. There were multiple witnesses who saw him die and then saw him alive after he was resurrected. He spoke with them and they saw the injuries he suffered. Furthermore, a large crowd saw Jesus after he was resurrected at the same time. The large stone in front of the tomb would have not been able to be moved by a few, but only by many. Yet, the boulder was cast aside and Jesus' body was gone. Other evidence is how the resurrection affected Jesus' apostles or followers. Paul became Jesus' best apostle to the Gentiles after seeing his vision after death. Then we have all the martyrs for Jesus.

 

[Mr Natural]

Nothing fanatical. Just one truth. Atheism as a religion is wrong, too. They believe in no gods or God.

If they don’t believe in gods or God, then it’s not a religion.

Do you understand now?

 

[Ahmad]

Where the rubber meets the road is where Islam and Judaism state that Jesus is not a God. However, we found that Jesus died on the cross in order to save humankind, was buried and rose again on the third day. This is irrefutable and why both Islam and Judaism are false teachings. There is only one true religion and that is Christianity.

How is that irrefutable ?

It's based on historical or forensic evidence. There were multiple witnesses who saw him die and then saw him alive after he was resurrected. He spoke with them and they saw the injuries he suffered. Furthermore, a large crowd saw Jesus after he was resurrected at the same time. The large stone in front of the tomb would have not been able to be moved by a few, but only by many. Yet, the boulder was cast aside and Jesus' body was gone. Other evidence is how the resurrection affected Jesus' apostles or followers. Paul became Jesus' best apostle to the Gentiles after seeing his vision after death. Then we have all the martyrs for Jesus.

This, to you, is an evidence ? Who are ''they" ? How their "witness" ever reached you in 2019 ? What forensic and historical evidence ? Scientists can examine a fossil, and through calculation, say to what precise age it belongs. But that's about it on evidences. A bit of seriousness, and honesty, when it comes to some aspects of life like politics, or religion.

 

[Bowman]

Muhammad (peace be upon him) was given a book by God, The Qur'an. In it, God talks to him.

Incorrect.

No one named 'muhammad' was given a book called the Koran, according to the Koran, itself.

This is pure Islamic myth.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Hello.

This was prompted to me by people quoting me Bible verses, in their attempt to convince me of some elements. My question is, what evidence is there that the Bible's words, as known today are the actual words of the Prophet Jesus ? Jesus (peace be upon him) lived 2000 years ago. How would one expect, in all pure common sense, that his words are preserved up to this day ? Do you not think that these words are changed, modified, altered, arranged, and put up conveniently, voluntarily, and both with and without that very intent ?

Muhammad (peace be upon him) was given a book by God, The Qur'an. In it, God talks to him. It is the word of God. That was about 1500 years ago. However, the Qur'an was memorized from the beginning, as an obligation to the Muslim community, and it was done as it had to be. From generations to generations, it was memorized, all over the Muslim world, until today, and it continues. This is how we know the Qur'an is authentic, the very same that it was 1500 years ago.

1500 years ago, when Muhammad recited this Qur'an to people, everyone was amazed by such a speech, such words, such extraordinary and beautiful words of light. It is the same today, when someone reads a verse of the Qur'an, or many verses, or a Chapter, or many Chapters; he is overwhelmed by such extraodinary, magnificent and amazing words. This is because it is the word of God Almighty.

"So all the praises and thanks be to God, the Lord of the heavens and the Lord of the earth, and the Lord of the Alamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists). And His (Alone) is the Majesty in the heavens and the earth, and He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise." (45:36-37)

"But those who believe and do righteous good deeds, and believe in that which is sent down to Muhammad - for it is the truth from their Lord - He will expiate from them their sins, and will make good their state." (47:1)

Correction: the Warlord Muhammad enslaved the Jews of the Quraysh tribe after he conquered and murdered most of them. He forced some of his slaves to craft a holy book for them, given that he was illiterate. They plagiarized what they knew, the Torah. It is unlikely that Muhammad knew very much of what the Jews wrote for him.

 

[james bond]

Nothing fanatical. Just one truth. Atheism as a religion is wrong, too. They believe in no gods or God.

If they don’t believe in gods or God, then it’s not a religion.

Do you understand now?

I understand you are wrong. Practically everyone in the world considers atheism a religion.

 

[james bond]

Where the rubber meets the road is where Islam and Judaism state that Jesus is not a God. However, we found that Jesus died on the cross in order to save humankind, was buried and rose again on the third day. This is irrefutable and why both Islam and Judaism are false teachings. There is only one true religion and that is Christianity.

How is that irrefutable ?

It's based on historical or forensic evidence. There were multiple witnesses who saw him die and then saw him alive after he was resurrected. He spoke with them and they saw the injuries he suffered. Furthermore, a large crowd saw Jesus after he was resurrected at the same time. The large stone in front of the tomb would have not been able to be moved by a few, but only by many. Yet, the boulder was cast aside and Jesus' body was gone. Other evidence is how the resurrection affected Jesus' apostles or followers. Paul became Jesus' best apostle to the Gentiles after seeing his vision after death. Then we have all the martyrs for Jesus.

This, to you, is an evidence ? Who are ''they" ? How their "witness" ever reached you in 2019 ? What forensic and historical evidence ? Scientists can examine a fossil, and through calculation, say to what precise age it belongs. But that's about it on evidences. A bit of seriousness, and honesty, when it comes to some aspects of life like politics, or religion.

Your follow up questions do not make any sense in regards to my answer. How can Jesus not be a God? 1) It's states he is in the Bible as part of the Trinity. The Trinity is like the electromagnetic spectrum. Holy Spirit is the radio spectrum. Jesus is the visible spectrum. God the Father is the gamma spectrum. Three separate beings in one. 2) Jesus rose again from the dead and became the Son of God. If the resurrection did not happen, then Christianity would not exist. 3) Human kind was saved by Jesus. Even the people who lived and died before Jesus as long as they believed in God and the savior would come were saved. 4) The year does not matter. Jesus saved those who came before him and those who came after him. He fulfilled all the laws and was the perfect human being when Adam could not. 5) Thus, the Jews and the Muslims are wrong.

You mention fossils, but do not believe that it's just the remains of a creature who died at that location. How stupid to read more than that into it? Even the names of the layer of rock it was found refers to a location. This was so before evolutionists came in and made up their mythology. Nothing is observable, testable nor falsifiable except natural selection.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Mohammad was a man whose livelihood involved murdering people and taking what was theirs. He was a serial rapist and child molester as well.

Islam is nothing more than the intentional creation of a manifesto to invest in himself an air of the divine so his stupid followers would be bound to him and thus aid him in stealing, murdering and raping his way across the land. He was illiterate, so merely drew on the knowledge of others to cobble together bits and pieces of true religions in such a way as to create a supremacist ideology with enough trappings of religious mumbo jumbo so as to fool the unwary.

 

[Marion Morrison]

How many pre-600 AD Dead Sea Scrolls are there?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Mohammed was a pedo marauder, anyone that calls that guy a prophet cannot be a good person.

Like Jesus said about people like Mohammed:

“It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.”

Anndd, Mohammed "married" a 9 year old girl.

Hang the millstone around his neck.