besides adding massively to the national debt, what else did bush's tax cuts do?

[thereisnospoon]

Nationalize the Fed.
Cut waste (theft) in the military budget.

It doesn't seem vague to me.

Yes as did Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, and Dennis Kucinich.



Actually she was upset that 1.1 trillion dollars went missing in HUD. She brought that up on a recent radio interview.



OK but some of its functions are necessary. Someone has to do them. The main point is to eliminate the Fed as a private bank cartel that is there only to suck the wealth out of our country.



That is a Federal Reserve thing.



That is a story that you have never heard. I could fill you in if you are interested but you probably are not.

It is entirely within the realm of possibility that Obama's people would ask McKinney not to run in return she will get a high paying do-nothing job in the Obama White House should Obama be re-elected.

Highly unlikely. McKinney is a nationalist and Obama is a globalist. They very much do not like each other.

Issues.. Go on.

.

At the end of the day, does it really matter? McKinney was a suck up to the Clintons.
She is now throwing her chapeau into the ring as a far left fringe candidate for president.
It is highly doubtful she will make it on to the ballots in more than 30 states.
If it is really that important to you to tell the story of Cynthia McKinney's fall from favor in her district, have at it. I would imagine you are a big fan and want to tell her side of the story.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yes as did Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Ralph Nader, and Dennis Kucinich.



Actually she was upset that 1.1 trillion dollars went missing in HUD. She brought that up on a recent radio interview.



OK but some of its functions are necessary. Someone has to do them. The main point is to eliminate the Fed as a private bank cartel that is there only to suck the wealth out of our country.



That is a Federal Reserve thing.



That is a story that you have never heard. I could fill you in if you are interested but you probably are not.



Highly unlikely. McKinney is a nationalist and Obama is a globalist. They very much do not like each other.

Issues.. Go on.

.

At the end of the day, does it really matter? McKinney was a suck up to the Clintons.
She is now throwing her chapeau into the ring as a far left fringe candidate for president.
It is highly doubtful she will make it on to the ballots in more than 30 states.
If it is really that important to you to tell the story of Cynthia McKinney's fall from favor in her district, have at it. I would imagine you are a big fan and want to tell her side of the story.

You must get your info from the same people who sold us Obama.

Good source.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

They sure as shit didn't raise employment, revenues or strengthen the Middle Class.

Oh really? We never saw 4.5% unemployment?

It's easy to get numbers down to that level when a company lays off one full-timer and hires two part-timers to do the job.

You mean like this?

McDonald's hiring day draws crowds, high hopes - Yahoo! Finance

 

[M14 Shooter]

Bush went from surpluses to deficits because he cut taxes without cutting spending. Period.

Another assertion you have absolutely no hope of supporting.

And YOUR explanation as to how Bush went from surpluses to deficits???

What's that? You admit that you cannot in any way support your assertion, and that you made up said assertion simply because you're and ignorant, bigoted, partisan hack?

Wow! Good for you!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Another assertion you have absolutely no hope of supporting.

And YOUR explanation as to how Bush went from surpluses to deficits???

What's that? You admit that you cannot in any way support your assertion, and that you made up said assertion simply because you're and ignorant, bigoted, partisan hack?

Wow! Good for you!

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes

2. Did he cut taxes? Yes

3. Did he increase spending? Yes

4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes

what part do you want to dispute?

Now let's hear you explain why Bush ended up with massive deficits.

 

[thereisnospoon]

And YOUR explanation as to how Bush went from surpluses to deficits???

What's that? You admit that you cannot in any way support your assertion, and that you made up said assertion simply because you're and ignorant, bigoted, partisan hack?

Wow! Good for you!

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes

2. Did he cut taxes? Yes

3. Did he increase spending? Yes

4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes

what part do you want to dispute?

Now let's hear you explain why Bush ended up with massive deficits.

YOU people are such God damned hypocrites.
Bush increased spending for sure. A majority of the spending was on social entitlements. Issues the Left sits squarely in support...so why is it you people hate Bush with such venom? Is it because he stole your side's issues and ran with them?
Obama trebles the largest Bush deficit, mainly on social spending, and you people give him a standing ovation....
Liberals.....The ideology of "well that's different"....

 

[M14 Shooter]

And YOUR explanation as to how Bush went from surpluses to deficits???

What's that? You admit that you cannot in any way support your assertion, and that you made up said assertion simply because you're and ignorant, bigoted, partisan hack?

Wow! Good for you!

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes
2. Did he cut taxes? Yes
3. Did he increase spending? Yes
4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes
what part do you want to dispute?

The part where -you- show causality - which you know you cannot do

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's that? You admit that you cannot in any way support your assertion, and that you made up said assertion simply because you're and ignorant, bigoted, partisan hack?

Wow! Good for you!

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes
2. Did he cut taxes? Yes
3. Did he increase spending? Yes
4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes
what part do you want to dispute?

The part where -you- show causality - which you know you cannot do

Causality is easy. If you put in place a tax policy that doesn't collect enough revenue to cover the cost of your spending policy,

you have caused a deficit.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's that? You admit that you cannot in any way support your assertion, and that you made up said assertion simply because you're and ignorant, bigoted, partisan hack?

Wow! Good for you!

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes

2. Did he cut taxes? Yes

3. Did he increase spending? Yes

4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes

what part do you want to dispute?

Now let's hear you explain why Bush ended up with massive deficits.

YOU people are such God damned hypocrites.
Bush increased spending for sure. A majority of the spending was on social entitlements. Issues the Left sits squarely in support...so why is it you people hate Bush with such venom? Is it because he stole your side's issues and ran with them?
Obama trebles the largest Bush deficit, mainly on social spending, and you people give him a standing ovation....
Liberals.....The ideology of "well that's different"....

I don't think war is a social program. Then again, I'm not a rightwing nut.

 

[M14 Shooter]

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes
2. Did he cut taxes? Yes
3. Did he increase spending? Yes
4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes
what part do you want to dispute?

The part where -you- show causality - which you know you cannot do

Causality is easy.

Then -prove- it.
Your items, 1-4, only show correlation.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The part where -you- show causality - which you know you cannot do

Causality is easy.

Then -prove- it.
Your items, 1-4, only show correlation.

I can't prove it to somebody who is insisting that mathematics not be used in the proof.

 

[thereisnospoon]

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes
2. Did he cut taxes? Yes
3. Did he increase spending? Yes
4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes
what part do you want to dispute?

The part where -you- show causality - which you know you cannot do

Causality is easy. If you put in place a tax policy that doesn't collect enough revenue to cover the cost of your spending policy,

you have caused a deficit.

no. Spending( A choice) creates deficits. Why is it you libs refuse to acknowledge the fact that government needs to get it's fiscal house in order?
The US Federal government is overstuffed, inefficient and expensive.
Government must be reined in.
Increasing taxes which will further slow the economy is not the answer. The pocketbooks and bank accounts of Americans are not bottomless pits.

 

[The T]

The part where -you- show causality - which you know you cannot do

Causality is easy. If you put in place a tax policy that doesn't collect enough revenue to cover the cost of your spending policy,

you have caused a deficit.

no. Spending( A choice) creates deficits. Why is it you libs refuse to acknowledge the fact that government needs to get it's fiscal house in order?
The US Federal government is overstuffed, inefficient and expensive.
Government must be reined in.
Increasing taxes which will further slow the economy is not the answer. The pocketbooks and bank accounts of Americans are not bottomless pits.

NOT are they property of the Imperial FED.

 

[thereisnospoon]

1. Did he come into office with a surplus? Yes

2. Did he cut taxes? Yes

3. Did he increase spending? Yes

4. Did he end up with deficits? Yes

what part do you want to dispute?

Now let's hear you explain why Bush ended up with massive deficits.

YOU people are such God damned hypocrites.
Bush increased spending for sure. A majority of the spending was on social entitlements. Issues the Left sits squarely in support...so why is it you people hate Bush with such venom? Is it because he stole your side's issues and ran with them?
Obama trebles the largest Bush deficit, mainly on social spending, and you people give him a standing ovation....
Liberals.....The ideology of "well that's different"....

I don't think war is a social program. Then again, I'm not a rightwing nut.

Think? You don't get to use that word. Bush was increasing social spending long before the bills for Iraq began to pile up. Check the facts, cabbie. Bush was a big spending populist.
Your side cannot escape the Obama deficit spending. You side OWNS it all now.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Causality is easy.

Then -prove- it.
Your items, 1-4, only show correlation.

I can't prove it...

...period.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Time for some reality, honesty, and facts!

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

1/29/2001 national debt was 5.73 trillion
1/28/2009 natoinal debt was 10.63 trillion

Bush added 4.9 trillion over 8 years or 0.63 trillion/year or 34% of the total national debt

1/29/2009 national debt was 10.63 trillion
1/29/2011 natoinal debt was 14.06 trillion

Obama added 3.4 trillion over 2 years or 1.72 trillion/year or 24% of the national debt.


The taxes didn't change after obama took office yet he has almost tripled the rate at which bush was adding to the debt. Its not the tax cuts its the spending increases.

The tax revenues did not go down after the bush cuts, our expenses went up after tarp, bailouts, cash for clunkers, ect ect ect.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Time for some reality, honesty, and facts!

Liberals are not interested in these things.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Time for some reality, honesty, and facts!

Liberals are not interested in these things.

maybe they can disprove you and discuss what I posted