Bernie Sanders' time has probably passed

[Mac1958]

Bernie Sanders — and many Democrats — keep confusing identity politics with tokenism

Generally speaking, identity politics is about recognizing and acting on the fact that different groups can have different interests, goals, and policy needs. It doesn’t require pitting those groups against each other, although it’s often presented that way. Rather, it’s about acknowledging that American politics tends to treat the “white male” identity as the default [...]​

Mac, so ignorant of Democratic policy aims it boggles the mind - from the Green New Deal to Warren's recent child care proposal to Pelosi's massive government ethics bill, to mention just the tip of the iceberg - sees nothing other than "identity politics". Having, by dint of his peculiar, incurable obsession, stumbled so far to the right, the political center is already over the horizon, he complains that the Democratic party has moved to the extreme left, to be denigrated as "regressives" - an argument to underpin the judgment / denomination is no longer required.

Pitiful.

See?
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[Olde Europe]

Pitiful.

See?
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Do you even recognize that begging for a hug from your retarded support group also doesn't amount to a valid argument?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Sanders put up one helluva fight against Hillary, but as we know now, he was not going to be allowed to win. Worse, in the intervening years, the Democratic party has shifted so far to the Left that he probably has too many handicaps to have a chance this time around.

Old. White. Straight. Male. That's four strikes against him on Day One.

I wonder if the party is just gone now. Those of us who are repulsed by the GOP and by this travesty have nowhere to go but third party. And the prospect that one of these parties will, in fact, win the White House in 2020 is a little troubling and depressing.

The Democratic Party now cares more about elements of "identity" than it does about anything else.

Biden leads the polls right now. This is gonna be fun & fascinating to watch. We'll see if his outstanding qualifications can overcome the handicaps he shares with Sanders.

How Does a Straight White Male Democrat Run for President?
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Straight, white male? Short, ugly Jew is more accurate. His time has passed? Surely you jest. He raised more for his presidential run in three days than the people who obsess over Trump's silly wall did in a month.

Bernie Sanders is the Democrat version of Donald Trump and the fact that the Democrats refuse to denounce his Democratic Socialism is a testament to the strength of that kind of mentality.

Bernie could lose a presidential race and still win the election. If his ideas are incorporated into the platform, what difference whose face is on tv when the next leftist gets to be prez?

 

[TNHarley]

Old. White. Straight. Male. That's four strikes against him on Day One. [...]

The Democratic Party now cares more about elements of "identity" than it does about anything else.

Biden leads the polls right now.​

There is no whinier a bunch than old, white, straight males. They may - may - no longer be the default winners in every single struggle for political power while still grossly over-represented at or near the levers. And, old, white, straight males are leading in the polls.

Still, the reactionary misogynists couldn't stop screeching that the "old, white, straight, male" identity doesn't guarantee the privileges it once did. They have it oh-so hard, others might - might - catch up to them.

There is no more contemptible and laughable a bunch than old, white, straight males.

You are so ignorant. Or a hack. One or the other
One thing im sure of is you are a cuck. I bet you pay to watch real men bang chicks, doncha?

 

[Olde Europe]

You are so ignorant. Or a hack. One or the other
One thing im sure of is you are a cuck. I bet you pay to watch real men bang chicks, doncha?

As I said: There is no more contemptible and laughable a bunch than old, white, straight males.

Oh, did I mention their putrid fantasies put their deplorable neediness in neon?

 

[JoeMoma]

Sanders put up one helluva fight against Hillary, but as we know now, he was not going to be allowed to win. Worse, in the intervening years, the Democratic party has shifted so far to the Left that he probably has too many handicaps to have a chance this time around.

Old. White. Straight. Male. That's four strikes against him on Day One.

I wonder if the party is just gone now. Those of us who are repulsed by the GOP and by this travesty have nowhere to go but third party. And the prospect that one of these parties will, in fact, win the White House in 2020 is a little troubling and depressing.

The Democratic Party now cares more about elements of "identity" than it does about anything else.

Biden leads the polls right now. This is gonna be fun & fascinating to watch. We'll see if his outstanding qualifications can overcome the handicaps he shares with Sanders.

How Does a Straight White Male Democrat Run for President?
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"Outstanding qualifications"! LOL

I was agreeing with you up till then. But I still mostly agree, especially about the 4 strikes.

Decades in the Senate, 8 years as VP. Come on.

Think what you will about his personality, and that's fair, but his qualifications and experience are unmatched in the party.
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Oops...... I had a brain fart. I had in my mind that you said Sanders is outstandingly qualified...however that part of you post was about Biden. While I usually disagree with Biden's politics, from the standpoint of political offices he has held he is "outstandingly qualified". That being said, I'll vote for him when hell freezes over. Could happen!

 

[Mac1958]

While the Regressive Leftists try the standard, cowardly deflect/deny routine on this topic, proof of my point continues in real time:

Reactionary Democrats trash Bernie Sanders for challenging identity politics
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[Olde Europe]

While the Regressive Leftists try the standard, cowardly deflect/deny routine on this topic, proof of my point continues in real time:

Reactionary Democrats trash Bernie Sanders for challenging identity politics
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Mac finds an opinion piece that rebleats what he "thinks". It's from 2016, and he thinks that is "real time" in 2019.

And the frenzied, narrow-minded, unthinking bone-headedness continues unabated, while the debate over the intersection of class and identity has long moved on towards giving each side its due, as circumstances require.

 

[Mac1958]

Sanders put up one helluva fight against Hillary, but as we know now, he was not going to be allowed to win. Worse, in the intervening years, the Democratic party has shifted so far to the Left that he probably has too many handicaps to have a chance this time around.

Old. White. Straight. Male. That's four strikes against him on Day One.

I wonder if the party is just gone now. Those of us who are repulsed by the GOP and by this travesty have nowhere to go but third party. And the prospect that one of these parties will, in fact, win the White House in 2020 is a little troubling and depressing.

The Democratic Party now cares more about elements of "identity" than it does about anything else.

Biden leads the polls right now. This is gonna be fun & fascinating to watch. We'll see if his outstanding qualifications can overcome the handicaps he shares with Sanders.

How Does a Straight White Male Democrat Run for President?
.

"Outstanding qualifications"! LOL

I was agreeing with you up till then. But I still mostly agree, especially about the 4 strikes.

Decades in the Senate, 8 years as VP. Come on.

Think what you will about his personality, and that's fair, but his qualifications and experience are unmatched in the party.
.

Oops...... I had a brain fart. I had in my mind that you said Sanders is outstandingly qualified...however that part of you post was about Biden. While I usually disagree with Biden's politics, from the standpoint of political offices he has held he is "outstandingly qualified". That being said, I'll vote for him when hell freezes over. Could happen!

Biden still has to overcome the Regressive Left. We'll see if he wants to put himself through that.

I certainly wouldn't blame him if he didn't.
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[MoneyShaker]

You are so ignorant. Or a hack. One or the other
One thing im sure of is you are a cuck. I bet you pay to watch real men bang chicks, doncha?

As I said: There is no more contemptible and laughable a bunch than old, white, straight males.

Oh, did I mention their putrid fantasies put their deplorable neediness in neon?

Funny that you don't even recognize that you're playing identity politics when you generalize as you just did here.

 

[Mac1958]

You are so ignorant. Or a hack. One or the other
One thing im sure of is you are a cuck. I bet you pay to watch real men bang chicks, doncha?

As I said: There is no more contemptible and laughable a bunch than old, white, straight males.

Oh, did I mention their putrid fantasies put their deplorable neediness in neon?

Funny that you don't even recognize that you're playing identity politics when you generalize as you just did here.

They just have to jump right in to prove my point for me.

This happens all the time. It's uncanny.
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[Olde Europe]

You are so ignorant. Or a hack. One or the other
One thing im sure of is you are a cuck. I bet you pay to watch real men bang chicks, doncha?

As I said: There is no more contemptible and laughable a bunch than old, white, straight males.

Oh, did I mention their putrid fantasies put their deplorable neediness in neon?

Funny that you don't even recognize that you're playing identity politics when you generalize as you just did here.

Felt the sting? Good. Very good. For that's what the "white males have it oh-so hard" nitwits are going to get, and also those who are merely looking on while the whiners try to defend their undeserved privileges. You enjoyed 400 years of white-male identity politics along with the misogyny and the racism that by necessity entails, and your whines while centuries of unfairness are being challenged are nothing but music to my ears. So is Mac's intellectual helplessness facing the most basic questions of fairness. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

 

[MoneyShaker]

You are so ignorant. Or a hack. One or the other
One thing im sure of is you are a cuck. I bet you pay to watch real men bang chicks, doncha?

As I said: There is no more contemptible and laughable a bunch than old, white, straight males.

Oh, did I mention their putrid fantasies put their deplorable neediness in neon?

Funny that you don't even recognize that you're playing identity politics when you generalize as you just did here.

Felt the sting? Good. Very good. For that's what the "white males have it oh-so hard" nitwits are going to get, and also those who are merely looking on while the whiners try to defend their undeserved privileges. You enjoyed 400 years of white-male identity politics along with the misogyny and the racism that by necessity entails, and your whines while centuries of unfairness are being challenged are nothing but music to my ears. So is Mac's intellectual helplessness facing the most basic questions of fairness. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

You literally have zero idea what color my skin is , nor my gender, nor anything else , and yet you jumped right to the identity politics and ASSUMED i was an old white guy simply because I pointed out how ridiculous you are..

Hilarious.

 

[TNHarley]

You are so ignorant. Or a hack. One or the other
One thing im sure of is you are a cuck. I bet you pay to watch real men bang chicks, doncha?

As I said: There is no more contemptible and laughable a bunch than old, white, straight males.

Oh, did I mention their putrid fantasies put their deplorable neediness in neon?

Funny that you don't even recognize that you're playing identity politics when you generalize as you just did here.

Felt the sting? Good. Very good. For that's what the "white males have it oh-so hard" nitwits are going to get, and also those who are merely looking on while the whiners try to defend their undeserved privileges. You enjoyed 400 years of white-male identity politics along with the misogyny and the racism that by necessity entails, and your whines while centuries of unfairness are being challenged are nothing but music to my ears. So is Mac's intellectual helplessness facing the most basic questions of fairness. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

Money is a black chick, you stupid fuck.

 

[Olde Europe]

You literally have zero idea what color my skin is , nor my gender, nor anything else , and yet you jumped right to the identity politics and ASSUMED i was an old white guy simply because I pointed out how ridiculous you are..

Hilarious.

Does "and also those who are merely looking on while the whiners try to defend their undeserved privileges" mean anything to you? Or are you just fine with jumping on Mac's whiny train while reading impaired? I assumed nothing, other than you jumping on the "but but that's identity politics" hoax.

I honestly care not one whit about your color or plumbing. All I care about is your argument. For now, I've seen nothing other than an overconfident assertion, idle speculation about my thinking, and jumping right to judgment without so much as an explanation for it.

 

[debbiedowner]

Sanders put up one helluva fight against Hillary, but as we know now, he was not going to be allowed to win. Worse, in the intervening years, the Democratic party has shifted so far to the Left that he probably has too many handicaps to have a chance this time around.

Old. White. Straight. Male. That's four strikes against him on Day One.

I wonder if the party is just gone now. Those of us who are repulsed by the GOP and by this travesty have nowhere to go but third party. And the prospect that one of these parties will, in fact, win the White House in 2020 is a little troubling and depressing.

The Democratic Party now cares more about elements of "identity" than it does about anything else.

Biden leads the polls right now. This is gonna be fun & fascinating to watch. We'll see if his outstanding qualifications can overcome the handicaps he shares with Sanders.

How Does a Straight White Male Democrat Run for President?
.

"Outstanding qualifications"! LOL

I was agreeing with you up till then. But I still mostly agree, especially about the 4 strikes.

Decades in the Senate, 8 years as VP. Come on.

Think what you will about his personality, and that's fair, but his qualifications and experience are unmatched in the party.
.

Oops...... I had a brain fart. I had in my mind that you said Sanders is outstandingly qualified...however that part of you post was about Biden. While I usually disagree with Biden's politics, from the standpoint of political offices he has held he is "outstandingly qualified". That being said, I'll vote for him when hell freezes over. Could happen!

Biden still has to overcome the Regressive Left. We'll see if he wants to put himself through that.

I certainly wouldn't blame him if he didn't.
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The regressive left sort of like the tea party which is practically fizzled out. There is no place in this world for far out right or left now but in the very near future that will be the norm.

 

[Mac1958]

Sanders put up one helluva fight against Hillary, but as we know now, he was not going to be allowed to win. Worse, in the intervening years, the Democratic party has shifted so far to the Left that he probably has too many handicaps to have a chance this time around.

Old. White. Straight. Male. That's four strikes against him on Day One.

I wonder if the party is just gone now. Those of us who are repulsed by the GOP and by this travesty have nowhere to go but third party. And the prospect that one of these parties will, in fact, win the White House in 2020 is a little troubling and depressing.

The Democratic Party now cares more about elements of "identity" than it does about anything else.

Biden leads the polls right now. This is gonna be fun & fascinating to watch. We'll see if his outstanding qualifications can overcome the handicaps he shares with Sanders.

How Does a Straight White Male Democrat Run for President?
.

"Outstanding qualifications"! LOL

I was agreeing with you up till then. But I still mostly agree, especially about the 4 strikes.

Decades in the Senate, 8 years as VP. Come on.

Think what you will about his personality, and that's fair, but his qualifications and experience are unmatched in the party.
.

Oops...... I had a brain fart. I had in my mind that you said Sanders is outstandingly qualified...however that part of you post was about Biden. While I usually disagree with Biden's politics, from the standpoint of political offices he has held he is "outstandingly qualified". That being said, I'll vote for him when hell freezes over. Could happen!

Biden still has to overcome the Regressive Left. We'll see if he wants to put himself through that.

I certainly wouldn't blame him if he didn't.
.

The regressive left sort of like the tea party which is practically fizzled out. There is no place in this world for far out right or left now but in the very near future that will be the norm.

I hope they're marginalized soon. The wings are killing us.
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[MoneyShaker]

You literally have zero idea what color my skin is , nor my gender, nor anything else , and yet you jumped right to the identity politics and ASSUMED i was an old white guy simply because I pointed out how ridiculous you are..

Hilarious.

Does "and also those who are merely looking on while the whiners try to defend their undeserved privileges" mean anything to you? Or are you just fine with jumping on Mac's whiny train while reading impaired? I assumed nothing, other than you jumping on the "but but that's identity politics" hoax.

I honestly care not one whit about your color or plumbing. All I care about is your argument. For now, I've seen nothing other than an overconfident assertion, idle speculation about my thinking, and jumping right to judgment without so much as an explanation for it.

I dont jump on band wagons, that's for minions, such as yourself.

Don't get mad at me for pointing out that you are an identity politics drone.

 

[Disir]

Old. White. Straight. Male. That's four strikes against him on Day One.

While they pick up his battle cry with zero comprehension of what it actually means. Identity politics started in the 70s. It really doesn't matter whom they pick because they can always tell those who supported whomever to vote for so and so because they lost and the party wins. The swimsuit competition hasn't even started yet.

No doubt that the Democrats are counting on a YUGE anti-Trump vote for whomever they run, that's for sure.

I'm terrible at political predictions, so I don't know how that will play out.

But one thing that is DEFINITELY playing out is my fear when Trump won - that his presence would allow the Regressive Left to fully take over the Democratic Party. Who knows where things will be come election time, and a full-blown Regressive could win.

I don't know how many more of these wild swings back & forth this country can take in one piece.
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They have to rely on anti-Trump rhetoric. They don't have anything else.

It's all verbal vomit.

The problem with that is the rest of the people that are going to need something a bit more solid. So, they elect a regressive? The Democratic Party would simply die a quicker death. I see this as a faux war. I see the establishment in a no lose situation.

 

[Disir]

While they pick up his battle cry with zero comprehension of what it actually means. Identity politics started in the 70s. It really doesn't matter whom they pick because they can always tell those who supported whomever to vote for so and so because they lost and the party wins. The swimsuit competition hasn't even started yet.

I think people are scared shitless of Bernie Sanders.

Not really... Bernie got a big pass last time because Hillary was too afraid of alienating his supporters. they won't show him the same deference this time when there are people further to the left than he is on some of these issues.

He didn't. I think watching a large group of people on the interwebs-specifically USMB that could not identify ANY policy of Bernie Sanders outside of :"free college" in 2016 will be high-lar-ius in the future.


Hell, you run around talking about the 1% and racism like you know what the hell your talking about. You people are easy peasy.