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Let's get clear on this. Sounds like we're saying that folks owning big corporations are hurting their employees if the workers are also getting welfare....corporations taking advantage of workers which lead to a welfare increase? Did welfare increase and corporations found a way to take advantage? Either way is bad...
I'm an independent. Don't me such a moron.[
How does it do that? It sounds like a tax on corporations who pay so little that employees collect welfare.
Are you moron Marxists digging that tire old lie out again? We kicked the shit out of you fucking liars during the OWS idiocy. What makes you think entirely debunked lies will work this time?
We're already paying corporate welfare. I don't think the corps would have to know what employees are collecting welfare. They would just get a bill from the IRS.Let's get clear on this. Sounds like we're saying that folks owning big corporations are hurting their employees if the workers are also getting welfare....corporations taking advantage of workers which lead to a welfare increase? Did welfare increase and corporations found a way to take advantage? Either way is bad...
imho it would be bad if the owners started a policy where they fired anyone getting welfare because it would not only would be bad for former employees who'd now have to be totally indigent, but it would also be bad for tax payers who'd have to pay for raising welfare payments.
The snowflakes just want to use this as an excuse to impose new taxes on corporations or increase the minimum wage. It has nothing to do with any concern about the workers.Let's get clear on this. Sounds like we're saying that folks owning big corporations are hurting their employees if the workers are also getting welfare....corporations taking advantage of workers which lead to a welfare increase? Did welfare increase and corporations found a way to take advantage? Either way is bad...
imho it would be bad if the owners started a policy where they fired anyone getting welfare because it would not only would be bad for former employees who'd now have to be totally indigent, but it would also be bad for tax payers who'd have to pay for raising welfare payments.
What would the bill be based on, total ignorance? Do you actually believe that the IRS knows how much welfare the employees of corporation 'X' are receiving?We're already paying corporate welfare. I don't think the corps would have to know what employees are collecting welfare. They would just get a bill from the IRS.Let's get clear on this. Sounds like we're saying that folks owning big corporations are hurting their employees if the workers are also getting welfare....corporations taking advantage of workers which lead to a welfare increase? Did welfare increase and corporations found a way to take advantage? Either way is bad...
imho it would be bad if the owners started a policy where they fired anyone getting welfare because it would not only would be bad for former employees who'd now have to be totally indigent, but it would also be bad for tax payers who'd have to pay for raising welfare payments.
You're a Marxist. You're about as "independent" ass Pol Pot.I'm an independent. Don't me such a moron.[
How does it do that? It sounds like a tax on corporations who pay so little that employees collect welfare.
Are you moron Marxists digging that tire old lie out again? We kicked the shit out of you fucking liars during the OWS idiocy. What makes you think entirely debunked lies will work this time?
Good questions. One thing I would like to note. Corporations got a huge tax break, have prices gone down? I haven't seen it, they are just pocketing it. Would this tax really increase prices? Makes you wonder since a tax cut sure didn't lower prices.I have a few questions, if this were put into place what would the government do with the savins by tax corporations? Reduce the debt? Spend it on another social program? Also, how much will corporations raise their prices to cover the added cost? What will corporations do to limit the impact of this bill to their bottom line? Would this apply to full time employees only?
Just wanting to see what the ramifications could be by the passage.
Funny thing is I DOUBT many "mainstream" democrats will back this because corporations are big donors of both democrats and republicans. I say it gets less than 100 yes votes in House IF it even gets that far unfortunately. This is a nice chance for BOTH parties to put their money where their mouth is...you care about workers? Prove it.Which came first the chicken or the egg? Are corporations taking advantage of workers which lead to a welfare increase? Did welfare increase and corporations found a way to take advantage? Either way is bad for the taxpayer and increases government.Wouldn't need so much welfare if corporations paid decent wages.Now this is something I can get behind. 100%. The government shouldn't be forced to help YOUR employees because your uber rich ass wants to play cheap and not pay them well enough.This is a fascinating idea. Our biggest economic problem is stagnant wages. Could this be an answer?
Update: September 6, 2018: U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders on Wednesday introduced a bill that would tax corporations with more than 500 employees for the full amount employees receive in government assistance. The bill's title, "Stop Bad Employers by Zeroing Out Subsidies Act," or "Stop BEZOS," is an open jab at Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos. Sanders had previously criticized Amazon after a study found that some fulfillment center employees relied on a federal food assistance program. Sanders' criticism drew a heated response from Amazon, which prompted another detailed critique from Sanders' office, one that included testimonials from Amazon employeesabout working conditions.
Bernie Sanders introduces 'Stop BEZOS' bill
Then government should reduce their welfare programs. It has nothing to do with corporations.
This country has always had immigrants. Isn't trump kicking them all out? Why are wages still stagnant?Mass immigration of low wage labor from third world countries is the problem. That's so obvious I can't imagine why anyone doesn't get it - unless they deliberately refuse to get it, that is.While I agree too many handouts are the root of the problem, wages are stagnant. I just don't think cutting welfare will increase wages at this point. Something is really wrong with wages in this country. Normally such low unemployment would trigger great wage gains, they have been stagnant.Now this is something I can get behind. 100%. The government shouldn't be forced to help YOUR employees because your uber rich ass wants to play cheap and not pay them well enough.This is a fascinating idea. Our biggest economic problem is stagnant wages. Could this be an answer?
Update: September 6, 2018: U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders on Wednesday introduced a bill that would tax corporations with more than 500 employees for the full amount employees receive in government assistance. The bill's title, "Stop Bad Employers by Zeroing Out Subsidies Act," or "Stop BEZOS," is an open jab at Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos. Sanders had previously criticized Amazon after a study found that some fulfillment center employees relied on a federal food assistance program. Sanders' criticism drew a heated response from Amazon, which prompted another detailed critique from Sanders' office, one that included testimonials from Amazon employeesabout working conditions.
Bernie Sanders introduces 'Stop BEZOS' bill
How about the more simple solution get rid of welfare benefits to those that work?
If a employee can't live on those wages they won't be able to work for them...the companies would have no choice but to raise wages or go out of bussiness ..
What we are doing is enabling the companies and employees
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Sounds like Bernie can't be bought. That is rare in politics.
I'm an independent. Don't me such a moron.
The IRS knows where you work and how much welfare you collect, yes.What would the bill be based on, total ignorance? Do you actually believe that the IRS knows how much welfare the employees of corporation 'X' are receiving?We're already paying corporate welfare. I don't think the corps would have to know what employees are collecting welfare. They would just get a bill from the IRS.Let's get clear on this. Sounds like we're saying that folks owning big corporations are hurting their employees if the workers are also getting welfare....corporations taking advantage of workers which lead to a welfare increase? Did welfare increase and corporations found a way to take advantage? Either way is bad...
imho it would be bad if the owners started a policy where they fired anyone getting welfare because it would not only would be bad for former employees who'd now have to be totally indigent, but it would also be bad for tax payers who'd have to pay for raising welfare payments.
Your concerns are warranted. Like I said in a previous post, the problem may have started with too much welfare and corporations then took advantage of it.Good questions. One thing I would like to note. Corporations got a huge tax break, have prices gone down? I haven't seen it, they are just pocketing it. Would this tax really increase prices? Makes you wonder since a tax cut sure didn't lower prices.I have a few questions, if this were put into place what would the government do with the savins by tax corporations? Reduce the debt? Spend it on another social program? Also, how much will corporations raise their prices to cover the added cost? What will corporations do to limit the impact of this bill to their bottom line? Would this apply to full time employees only?
Just wanting to see what the ramifications could be by the passage.
I am more concerned about the government spending and trying to be the morality agent then I’m of private business. I have never trusted government and their control and their motives. What if government decide that smaller companies need to follow this same policy? Once government gets a foot in the door all bets are off as the are just as greedy as the private sector. Money equals power for them.
Yes, I don't think it would ever have the support from both parties and probably won't be up for a vote. Most politicians aren't going to go against their donors and big corps are donors of both.Funny thing is I DOUBT many "mainstream" democrats will back this because corporations are big donors of both democrats and republicans. I say it gets less than 100 yes votes in House IF it even gets that far unfortunately. This is a nice chance for BOTH parties to put their money where their mouth is...you care about workers? Prove it.Which came first the chicken or the egg? Are corporations taking advantage of workers which lead to a welfare increase? Did welfare increase and corporations found a way to take advantage? Either way is bad for the taxpayer and increases government.Wouldn't need so much welfare if corporations paid decent wages.Now this is something I can get behind. 100%. The government shouldn't be forced to help YOUR employees because your uber rich ass wants to play cheap and not pay them well enough.This is a fascinating idea. Our biggest economic problem is stagnant wages. Could this be an answer?
Update: September 6, 2018: U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders on Wednesday introduced a bill that would tax corporations with more than 500 employees for the full amount employees receive in government assistance. The bill's title, "Stop Bad Employers by Zeroing Out Subsidies Act," or "Stop BEZOS," is an open jab at Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos. Sanders had previously criticized Amazon after a study found that some fulfillment center employees relied on a federal food assistance program. Sanders' criticism drew a heated response from Amazon, which prompted another detailed critique from Sanders' office, one that included testimonials from Amazon employeesabout working conditions.
Bernie Sanders introduces 'Stop BEZOS' bill
Then government should reduce their welfare programs. It has nothing to do with corporations.
Could be. Would be interesting to see the numbers of well paid retirees and numbers of immigrants.This country has always had immigrants. Isn't trump kicking them all out? Why are wages still stagnant?Mass immigration of low wage labor from third world countries is the problem. That's so obvious I can't imagine why anyone doesn't get it - unless they deliberately refuse to get it, that is.While I agree too many handouts are the root of the problem, wages are stagnant. I just don't think cutting welfare will increase wages at this point. Something is really wrong with wages in this country. Normally such low unemployment would trigger great wage gains, they have been stagnant.Now this is something I can get behind. 100%. The government shouldn't be forced to help YOUR employees because your uber rich ass wants to play cheap and not pay them well enough.
How about the more simple solution get rid of welfare benefits to those that work?
If a employee can't live on those wages they won't be able to work for them...the companies would have no choice but to raise wages or go out of bussiness ..
What we are doing is enabling the companies and employees
.
Babby boomers retiring and they are hiring lower wage millennials (less experience) that's what skews the stats
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The guy has had a pretty good job for a long time and is working deep into his 70s. His homes aren't really that great when you take all that into account.Sounds like Bernie can't be bought. That is rare in politics.
Yeah, those three multi-million dollar homes make that real clear, comrade.
So, when you Communists decide who to rape, will you base this on the illegal with 15 ninos who gets food stamps? Should Amazon pay based on how many anchor babies a worker squirts out?
Fascinating that you think you know so much. I'm a free market capitalist actually. That's why I don't like socialist deals like Foxconn that you repubs support. You want more government involvement. Have you notice how much spending increases under your republicans? Yeah, bigger government. I'm an independent, you stupidly partisan fools wouldn't understand.I'm an independent. Don't me such a moron.
You're a Communist, nothing even remotely independent about you.
The ONLY reason these people get food stamps is because they have so many children.
If they work 40 hours at the lowest Amazon wage of 10.95 they are well above the poverty line and do not qualify for welfare.
The way money and markets work is that folks buy at a price that makes the trade worthwhile. An employer buys labor at a price that the labor can justify. If the government raises the hourly price beyond how much income the worker can bring into the company, the worker has to get fired....The IRS knows where you work and how much welfare you collect, yes.
The guy has had a pretty good job for a long time and is working deep into his 70s. His homes aren't really that great when you take all that into account.Sounds like Bernie can't be bought. That is rare in politics.
Yeah, those three multi-million dollar homes make that real clear, comrade.
So, when you Communists decide who to rape, will you base this on the illegal with 15 ninos who gets food stamps? Should Amazon pay based on how many anchor babies a worker squirts out?
Hey comrade, doesn't trump claim to be for the worker?
