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Bernie is a Democrat who likes to pretend he's "independent". His voting record is pure Democrat. . He accepts Democrat PAC Money. He endorses Democrat candidates over 3rd party candidates. He actively campaigns and raises cash for the DNC. He votes with the Democrats 98% of the time- more than any actual Democrat. He "talks" about socialist policies and positions, but he ACTS like a reliable Democrat. WHy? Because he's a democrat.....
Here is a link to "independent" Bernie's record.....Bernie Sanders - Ballotpedia
I hope he runs.
He says he is going to run as a ........Democrat.
Why? Because that is what he is........
He was nominated as a democrat for his senate seat. He turned it down, to keep up appearances. He even campaigned and raised funds on behalf democrat candidates (over third party candidates) iIn exchange the Dems didn't run a candidate. He is anything but independent.....
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No, because "Independent" doesn't have a party machine, a funding network, a media department and all the trappings one needs to participate in Politics Inc. And because "third party candidate" is not a monolithic group but a term of exception.
Duh.
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Sorry Pogo, When (and if) he runs for POTUS it will be as a Democrat. He said so himself. A real "independent" would run as an Independent.
Duh.
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two old coots running for President...one an avowed Socialist, the other a Socialist down to her red bones, but is still in the closet.
hell they might croak from the exertion then what? they just crown someone King or Queen?
two old coots running for President...one an avowed Socialist, the other a Socialist down to her red bones, but is still in the closet.
hell they might croak from the exertion then what? they just crown someone King or Queen?
How long have you been following politics to know so little?
lol, I've forgotten more than you know now
now don't reply to me with your stupid shit again. thanks
Bernie Sanders isn't actually going to run, because he doesn't want to become the next Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel. He won't be any good as President anyway. Presidents have to face realities that Congressmen and Senators don't.
It's good that the conversation is happening, though.
Bernie Sanders isn't actually going to run, because he doesn't want to become the next Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel. He won't be any good as President anyway. Presidents have to face realities that Congressmen and Senators don't.
It's good that the conversation is happening, though.
He openly stated he is thinking about running as a Democrat. That's why I made this post.
Bernie Sanders isn't actually going to run, because he doesn't want to become the next Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel. He won't be any good as President anyway. Presidents have to face realities that Congressmen and Senators don't.
It's good that the conversation is happening, though.
He openly stated he is thinking about running as a Democrat. That's why I made this post.
There's a big difference between "thinking about running" and actually seriously running.
He's not ruling the possibility out because it has an effect on the "national debate", it's good political theater that can be helpful coming into the start of the "primary season", and rumors of his possible candidacy will be an interesting catalyst for measuring the party response.
Baring some entirely unforseen political event, I will be completely shocked if Bernie runs any more serious a campaign than the guy from Law and Order did.
I admire Bernie's passion, but he's just not going to be considered a serious candidate. What he may end up doing, however, is ultimately elevate Elizabeth Warren, since they share the hardcore populist message, and that could shake things up.
Definitely, I hope he runs. It would be fascinating to see Hillary have to balance the more hawkish military stance she's taking and her more establishment background with the populist, "the rich are evil" message of Warren and Sanders.
Sure would be more interesting than watching the GOP field try to out-crazy each other, holy crap.
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I admire Bernie's passion, but he's just not going to be considered a serious candidate. What he may end up doing, however, is ultimately elevate Elizabeth Warren, since they share the hardcore populist message, and that could shake things up.
Definitely, I hope he runs. It would be fascinating to see Hillary have to balance the more hawkish military stance she's taking and her more establishment background with the populist, "the rich are evil" message of Warren and Sanders.
Sure would be more interesting than watching the GOP field try to out-crazy each other, holy crap.
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It's good for the Democratic Party, or any major party, to have vigorous primaries. It generally increases voter interest and also, more importantly, voter registration. See: the epic DEM nomination battle of 2008 and then see that Obama scored 10.5 million more votes in the 2008 GE than Kerry got in Bush's successful 2004 re-election.
That being said, we have never, ever seen a candidate scoring this high on party nomination polling this early in the game. Regardless of how some Righties may want to try to spin it, Clinton is at between 65-70% in most all nomination polling, with margins over Biden of between +40 and +60. Those are, for all intents and purposes, insurmountable margins.
So, yeah, there should be a challenger to Hillary, or two or three, and then she will pretty much have the nomination sowed-up by April 2016 at the latest.
I have no doubt that the GOP field of prospective candidates is going to be far larger and far more racous. This is not unusual for an opposition party after a 2nd term from the "other" party.
I admire Bernie's passion, but he's just not going to be considered a serious candidate. What he may end up doing, however, is ultimately elevate Elizabeth Warren, since they share the hardcore populist message, and that could shake things up.
Definitely, I hope he runs. It would be fascinating to see Hillary have to balance the more hawkish military stance she's taking and her more establishment background with the populist, "the rich are evil" message of Warren and Sanders.
Sure would be more interesting than watching the GOP field try to out-crazy each other, holy crap.
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It's good for the Democratic Party, or any major party, to have vigorous primaries. It generally increases voter interest and also, more importantly, voter registration. See: the epic DEM nomination battle of 2008 and then see that Obama scored 10.5 million more votes in the 2008 GE than Kerry got in Bush's successful 2004 re-election.
That being said, we have never, ever seen a candidate scoring this high on party nomination polling this early in the game. Regardless of how some Righties may want to try to spin it, Clinton is at between 65-70% in most all nomination polling, with margins over Biden of between +40 and +60. Those are, for all intents and purposes, insurmountable margins.
So, yeah, there should be a challenger to Hillary, or two or three, and then she will pretty much have the nomination sowed-up by April 2016 at the latest.
I have no doubt that the GOP field of prospective candidates is going to be far larger and far more racous. This is not unusual for an opposition party after a 2nd term from the "other" party.
Yeah, agreed.
It would have been pretty interesting to watch the Dems decide on a candidate if Hillary wasn't running, but she's clearly the prohibitive favorite for them.
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I would agree completely with what you've said were it not for the fact that I've seen how people respond to Bernie. He is saying things a lot of people want to hear. He reaches them.Bernie Sanders isn't actually going to run, because he doesn't want to become the next Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel. He won't be any good as President anyway. Presidents have to face realities that Congressmen and Senators don't.
It's good that the conversation is happening, though.
Bernie Sanders isn't actually going to run, because he doesn't want to become the next Dennis Kucinich or Mike Gravel. He won't be any good as President anyway. Presidents have to face realities that Congressmen and Senators don't.
It's good that the conversation is happening, though.
He openly stated he is thinking about running as a Democrat. That's why I made this post.
There's a big difference between "thinking about running" and actually seriously running.
He's not ruling the possibility out because it has an effect on the "national debate", it's good political theater that can be helpful coming into the start of the "primary season", and rumors of his possible candidacy will be an interesting catalyst for measuring the party response.
Baring some entirely unforseen political event, I will be completely shocked if Bernie runs any more serious a campaign than the guy from Law and Order did.
If Sanders Runs, it will be to provide a contrast for Hillary to show her centrist credentials.
He'd be done by New Hampshire.
The biggest problem Hillary might have is that she will wrap up her nomination too soon, while the GOP gets most of the bandwidth through the primary season.
Then she'll have to reintroduce herself.
I admire Bernie's passion, but he's just not going to be considered a serious candidate. What he may end up doing, however, is ultimately elevate Elizabeth Warren, since they share the hardcore populist message, and that could shake things up.
Definitely, I hope he runs. It would be fascinating to see Hillary have to balance the more hawkish military stance she's taking and her more establishment background with the populist, "the rich are evil" message of Warren and Sanders.
Sure would be more interesting than watching the GOP field try to out-crazy each other, holy crap.
.
It's good for the Democratic Party, or any major party, to have vigorous primaries. It generally increases voter interest and also, more importantly, voter registration. See: the epic DEM nomination battle of 2008 and then see that Obama scored 10.5 million more votes in the 2008 GE than Kerry got in Bush's successful 2004 re-election.
That being said, we have never, ever seen a candidate scoring this high on party nomination polling this early in the game. Regardless of how some Righties may want to try to spin it, Clinton is at between 65-70% in most all nomination polling, with margins over Biden of between +40 and +60. Those are, for all intents and purposes, insurmountable margins.
So, yeah, there should be a challenger to Hillary, or two or three, and then she will pretty much have the nomination sowed-up by April 2016 at the latest.
I have no doubt that the GOP field of prospective candidates is going to be far larger and far more racous. This is not unusual for an opposition party after a 2nd term from the "other" party.
I don't think anybody anywhere is voting for Joe Biden.
I think even Joe Biden knows that.
