Benghazi Was Obama's 3 a.m. Call

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    Wow, I bet Hillary never realized when she made that commercial that not only would Obama fail that 3 a.m. phone call, but that he would drag her down with him.
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    October 1, 2012, 7:17 p.m. ET
    Stephens: Benghazi Was Obama's 3 a.m. Call
    Libya was a failure of policy and worldview, not intelligence.

    The hour is 5 p.m., Sept. 11, Washington time, and the scene is an Oval Office meeting among President Obama, the secretary of defense, the national security adviser and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi has been under assault for roughly 90 minutes. Some 30 U.S. citizens are at mortal risk. The whereabouts of Ambassador Stevens are unknown.

    What is uppermost on the minds of the president and his advisers? The safety of Americans, no doubt. So what are they prepared to do about it? Here is The Wall Street Journal's account of the meeting:

    "There was no serious consideration at that hour of intervention with military force, officials said. Doing so without Libya's permission could represent a violation of sovereignty and inflame the situation, they said. Instead, the State Department reached out to the Libyan government to get reinforcements to the scene."

    So it did. Yet the attack was far from over. After leaving the principal U.S. compound, the Americans retreated to a second, supposedly secret facility, which soon came under deadly mortar fire. Time to call in the troops?

    "Some officials said the U.S. could also have sent aircraft to the scene as a 'show of force' to scare off the attackers," the Journal reported, noting that there's a U.S. air base just 450 miles away in Sicily. "State Department officials dismissed the suggestions as unrealistic. 'They would not have gotten there in two hours, four hours or six hours.'"

    The U.S. security detail only left Washington at 8 a.m. on Sept. 12, more than 10 hours after the attacks began. A commercial jet liner can fly from D.C. to Benghazi in about the same time.

    All this is noted with the benefit of hindsight, and the administration deserves to be judged accordingly. But it also deserves to be judged in light of what it knew prior to the attack, including an attack on the mission in June and heightened threat warnings throughout the summer.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444592404578030202508251578.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
     
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    In hindsight, with the information coming out that they (the administration) knew what was up in advance and it wasn't a spontanious attack, you are making a good point.
     
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    That's what you call poetic justice. :lol:

    Seriously though... Barack Obama went to bed that night not know Chris Stevens' fate, only knowing that he was missing. IOW, he SLEPT through his 3am phone call. :eek:
    Then, instead the beehive of activity we'd expect to see at the White House during an international crisis with national security and intelligence types coming and going, he gives a short, misdirecting speech on the Benghazi attack, then an interview with 60-minutes for his election campaign, and flies to Vegas for a stump speech. Next day, it was off to Colorado and another stump speech.

    And from Hillary Clinton, who's up to her neck in this... nothing. Not a word of apology from either of them for the incompetence which has lead to the deaths of our ambassador and three other Americans, the sacking of our consulate, or the on-going attacks on our embassies.
     
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    The article also shows that they really had no idea what to do when it happened either. The tone tells me that covering this up was almost the first things they thought of. :mad:

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    Let's review:

    The U.S. ignores warnings of a parlous security situation in Benghazi. Nothing happens because nobody is really paying attention, especially in an election year, and because Libya is supposed to be a foreign-policy success. When something does happen, the administration's concerns for the safety of Americans are subordinated to considerations of Libyan "sovereignty" and the need for "permission." After the attack the administration blames a video, perhaps because it would be politically inconvenient to note that al Qaeda is far from defeated, and that we are no more popular under Mr. Obama than we were under George W. Bush. Denouncing the video also appeals to the administration's reflexive habits of blaming America first. Once that story falls apart, it's time to blame the intel munchkins and move on.

    It was five in the afternoon when Mr. Obama took his 3 a.m. call. He still flubbed it.

    Stephens: Benghazi Was Obama's 3 a.m. Call - WSJ.com
     
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    A sad day for America. Obama failed us.
     
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    I couldn't believe that he blew off the meetings he should have been having on 9/12/12 in order to go to Vegas. I also can't believe that so much of the media didn't immediately call him on it. We've had Old Glory ripped down and replaced at 4 U.S. embassies and the most important story of the day was that Romney was too quick to defend America.
     
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    Benghazi was a nightmare.
     
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    no it wasn't his 3am call. Well it literally might have been given the time difference, but seriously it wasn't.

    A 3am call is China is about to launch a nuke at us.
    You people have zero perspective. Everything is an emergency and OMG to the extreme.
     
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    Yup. That's the part that got all over me. I looked at internet photos of Chris Stevens' lifeless body, the smoke on his face where it was obvious he had choked on it, and literally felt sick to my stomach. I'd have puked on my shoes if I had tried to smile and laugh through a stump speech all the while KNOWING that I'd failed to adequately protect these men who were there in my service. The guy has no conscience. None. At 3am, Barack Obama was asleep.
     
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