Ben Carson Blames Holocaust On Gun Control

[theHawk]

The Anti-Defamation League says these sorts of comments are "historically inaccurate and offensive."

Ben Carson, a candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, blamed the Holocaust on Nazi gun control in an interview on CNN Thursday.

Host Wolf Blitzer read a section from Carson's book, A More Perfect Union, in which Carson writes:

German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior ... Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.​

"I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed," Carson elaborated in the interview. "There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first."

The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors and responds to anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, has long opposed the use of Nazi comparisons in the U.S. gun control debate. "The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler’s Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families," Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director at the time, said in 2013.

Conservatives have a history of comparing gun control advocates to Hitler and the Nazis. The ADL's 2013 comments were provoked by The Drudge Report's choice to use an image of Hitler to illustrate news that President Barack Obama was pursuing limited gun control measures after 20 first-graders and six school staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were murdered by a gunman.

Many historians disagree with the idea that armed German Jews could have prevented the Holocaust. And as Alex Seitz-Wald, a journalist then writing for Salon, explained in 2013, the full story of Nazi gun regulation is more complicated than Carson and his ilk might like:

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them....

[Hitler's] "1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.​

The 1938 law did ban Jews from owning guns. But as the ADL explained in 2013, "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state," which eventually conquered most of Europe.

There was some armed Jewish resistance to the power of the Nazi war machine. But it often ended in death for the Jews involved.

In January 1943, Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up against the Nazis. Some 13,000 Jews died in the uprising. (They killed around 20 Nazis.) The rest were deported to concentration and extermination camps, where most were murdered.

My grandfather and grandmother had escaped from the ghetto before the uprising and gone into hiding in the countryside. They survived.

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Ben Carson should learn some factual history.

In other words Ben Carson was right, Germany had laws that disarmed all Germans citizens. Oh, except that Nazis were giving exemptions while Jews were banned from owning guns.

 

[BlueGin]

The guy is quite slow and probably is this way because he took tons of drugs in his youth. How sad.

Crazy fucker.

Slow? Yet ...he can explain the complexities of your brain and how it functions. Then open it up remove tumors... and save your life.

You only wish you were so "slow".

 

[Kosh]

The guy is quite slow and probably is this way because he took tons of drugs in his youth. How sad.

Crazy fucker.

Slow? Yet ...he can explain the complexities of your brain and how it functions. Then open it up remove tumors... and save your life.

You only wish you were so "slow".

Nah! He is just a racist socialist. Slow has nothing to with it..

 

[Lakhota]

The guy is quite slow and probably is this way because he took tons of drugs in his youth. How sad.

Crazy fucker.

Slow? Yet ...he can explain the complexities of your brain and how it functions. Then open it up remove tumors... and save your life.

You only wish you were so "slow".

Not uncommon among idiot savants.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ben Carson is living rent free in your head OP

Are you trying to shield him from criticism?

 

[Harry Dresden]

The guy is quite slow and probably is this way because he took tons of drugs in his youth. How sad.

Crazy fucker.

Slow? Yet ...he can explain the complexities of your brain and how it functions. Then open it up remove tumors... and save your life.

You only wish you were so "slow".

Not uncommon among idiot savants.

if he was a democrat you would never be saying shit about the guy,you know it and everyone here knows it....you would be calling the guy a genius physician....

 

[tyroneweaver]

The guy is quite slow and probably is this way because he took tons of drugs in his youth. How sad.

Crazy fucker.

Slow? Yet ...he can explain the complexities of your brain and how it functions. Then open ihttp://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28739746t up remove tumors... and save your life.

You only wish you were so "slow".

Not uncommon among idiot savants.

Did I tell ya this guy was my room mate at Brigham Young University


Houston E. KlineKole, Jr (1949 - 2008) - Find A Grave Memorial

 

[Donald Polish]

Holocaust? Don't make me laugh. Have you heard about The Black Lion?

 

[jknowgood]

Gruber said Obama relied on his supporters to be ignorant, so he could pass obamacare. Then the supporters on here defended Obama. I have to state the fact that all the Carson haters on here, have no credibility to call anyone ignorant. Advice for the ignorant liberals, never support a dumbass unconditionally. It shows how stupid you really are.

 

[jknowgood]

Gruber said Obama relied on his supporters to be ignorant, so he could pass obamacare. Then the supporters on here defended Obama. I have to state the fact that all the Carson haters on here, have no credibility to call anyone ignorant. Advice for the ignorant liberals, never support a dumbass unconditionally. It shows how stupid you really are.

Oh my, Lakota thinks that is funny. You have to be the biggest dumbass on this forum.

 

[GHook93]

The Anti-Defamation League says these sorts of comments are "historically inaccurate and offensive."

Ben Carson, a candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, blamed the Holocaust on Nazi gun control in an interview on CNN Thursday.

Host Wolf Blitzer read a section from Carson's book, A More Perfect Union, in which Carson writes:

German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior ... Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.​

"I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed," Carson elaborated in the interview. "There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first."

The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors and responds to anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, has long opposed the use of Nazi comparisons in the U.S. gun control debate. "The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler’s Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families," Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director at the time, said in 2013.

Conservatives have a history of comparing gun control advocates to Hitler and the Nazis. The ADL's 2013 comments were provoked by The Drudge Report's choice to use an image of Hitler to illustrate news that President Barack Obama was pursuing limited gun control measures after 20 first-graders and six school staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were murdered by a gunman.

Many historians disagree with the idea that armed German Jews could have prevented the Holocaust. And as Alex Seitz-Wald, a journalist then writing for Salon, explained in 2013, the full story of Nazi gun regulation is more complicated than Carson and his ilk might like:

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them....

[Hitler's] "1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.​

The 1938 law did ban Jews from owning guns. But as the ADL explained in 2013, "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state," which eventually conquered most of Europe.

There was some armed Jewish resistance to the power of the Nazi war machine. But it often ended in death for the Jews involved.

In January 1943, Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up against the Nazis. Some 13,000 Jews died in the uprising. (They killed around 20 Nazis.) The rest were deported to concentration and extermination camps, where most were murdered.

My grandfather and grandmother had escaped from the ghetto before the uprising and gone into hiding in the countryside. They survived.

More: Ben Carson Blames Holocaust On Gun Control

Ben Carson should learn some factual history.

Go fuck yourself you self-righteous ass-wipe. That is not what he stated and, as a Jew, I have much more right to take offense or non-offense to what Carson stated!

I am not offended and in fact believe he is 100% right. The Holocaust would have still happened, but just like the Jews did in Warsaw, they could have fought back! The Warsaw Jews fought harder than the entire Polish Army did and they lasted longer!

 

[Iceweasel]

The guy is quite slow and probably is this way because he took tons of drugs in his youth. How sad.

Crazy fucker.

Slow? Yet ...he can explain the complexities of your brain and how it functions. Then open it up remove tumors... and save your life.

You only wish you were so "slow".

Gotta appreciate the humor in that. Matthew was probably wearing his little jammies space suit when he typed it.

 

[Lakhota]

The Anti-Defamation League says these sorts of comments are "historically inaccurate and offensive."

Ben Carson, a candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, blamed the Holocaust on Nazi gun control in an interview on CNN Thursday.

Host Wolf Blitzer read a section from Carson's book, A More Perfect Union, in which Carson writes:

German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior ... Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.​

"I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed," Carson elaborated in the interview. "There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first."

The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors and responds to anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, has long opposed the use of Nazi comparisons in the U.S. gun control debate. "The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler’s Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families," Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director at the time, said in 2013.

Conservatives have a history of comparing gun control advocates to Hitler and the Nazis. The ADL's 2013 comments were provoked by The Drudge Report's choice to use an image of Hitler to illustrate news that President Barack Obama was pursuing limited gun control measures after 20 first-graders and six school staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were murdered by a gunman.

Many historians disagree with the idea that armed German Jews could have prevented the Holocaust. And as Alex Seitz-Wald, a journalist then writing for Salon, explained in 2013, the full story of Nazi gun regulation is more complicated than Carson and his ilk might like:

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them....

[Hitler's] "1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.​

The 1938 law did ban Jews from owning guns. But as the ADL explained in 2013, "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state," which eventually conquered most of Europe.

There was some armed Jewish resistance to the power of the Nazi war machine. But it often ended in death for the Jews involved.

In January 1943, Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up against the Nazis. Some 13,000 Jews died in the uprising. (They killed around 20 Nazis.) The rest were deported to concentration and extermination camps, where most were murdered.

My grandfather and grandmother had escaped from the ghetto before the uprising and gone into hiding in the countryside. They survived.

More: Ben Carson Blames Holocaust On Gun Control

Ben Carson should learn some factual history.

Go fuck yourself you self-righteous ass-wipe. That is not what he stated and, as a Jew, I have much more right to take offense or non-offense to what Carson stated!

I am not offended and in fact believe he is 100% right. The Holocaust would have still happened, but just like the Jews did in Warsaw, they could have fought back! The Warsaw Jews fought harder than the entire Polish Army did and they lasted longer!

So, as a Jew, you have special privileges? Gee, where have I heard that before? Oh, that's right, the chosen people. Even a red-skinned ni**er, as you called me, has a right to his opinion.

 

[Jroc]

The Anti-Defamation League says these sorts of comments are "historically inaccurate and offensive."

Ben Carson, a candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, blamed the Holocaust on Nazi gun control in an interview on CNN Thursday.

Host Wolf Blitzer read a section from Carson's book, A More Perfect Union, in which Carson writes:

German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior ... Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.​

"I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed," Carson elaborated in the interview. "There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first."

The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors and responds to anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, has long opposed the use of Nazi comparisons in the U.S. gun control debate. "The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler’s Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families," Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director at the time, said in 2013.

Conservatives have a history of comparing gun control advocates to Hitler and the Nazis. The ADL's 2013 comments were provoked by The Drudge Report's choice to use an image of Hitler to illustrate news that President Barack Obama was pursuing limited gun control measures after 20 first-graders and six school staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were murdered by a gunman.

Many historians disagree with the idea that armed German Jews could have prevented the Holocaust. And as Alex Seitz-Wald, a journalist then writing for Salon, explained in 2013, the full story of Nazi gun regulation is more complicated than Carson and his ilk might like:

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them....

[Hitler's] "1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.​

The 1938 law did ban Jews from owning guns. But as the ADL explained in 2013, "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state," which eventually conquered most of Europe.

There was some armed Jewish resistance to the power of the Nazi war machine. But it often ended in death for the Jews involved.

In January 1943, Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up against the Nazis. Some 13,000 Jews died in the uprising. (They killed around 20 Nazis.) The rest were deported to concentration and extermination camps, where most were murdered.

My grandfather and grandmother had escaped from the ghetto before the uprising and gone into hiding in the countryside. They survived.

More: Ben Carson Blames Holocaust On Gun Control

Ben Carson should learn some factual history.

Go fuck yourself you self-righteous ass-wipe. That is not what he stated and, as a Jew, I have much more right to take offense or non-offense to what Carson stated!

I am not offended and in fact believe he is 100% right. The Holocaust would have still happened, but just like the Jews did in Warsaw, they could have fought back! The Warsaw Jews fought harder than the entire Polish Army did and they lasted longer!

So, as a Jew, you have special privileges? Gee, where have I heard that before? Oh, that's right, the chosen people. Even a red-skinned ni**er, as you called me, has a right to his opinion.

You didn't give your opinion, you gave someone else's opinion. You're incapable of forming your own opinion...you're a moron

 

[easyt65]

The Obama-esque controlling and seizing of guns certainly contributed to the eventual incarceration and attempt at genocide...

 

[mikegriffith1]

The Anti-Defamation League says these sorts of comments are "historically inaccurate and offensive."

Ben Carson, a candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, blamed the Holocaust on Nazi gun control in an interview on CNN Thursday.

Host Wolf Blitzer read a section from Carson's book, A More Perfect Union, in which Carson writes:

German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior ... Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.​

"I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed," Carson elaborated in the interview. "There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first."

The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors and responds to anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, has long opposed the use of Nazi comparisons in the U.S. gun control debate. "The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler’s Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families," Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director at the time, said in 2013.

Conservatives have a history of comparing gun control advocates to Hitler and the Nazis. The ADL's 2013 comments were provoked by The Drudge Report's choice to use an image of Hitler to illustrate news that President Barack Obama was pursuing limited gun control measures after 20 first-graders and six school staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were murdered by a gunman.

Many historians disagree with the idea that armed German Jews could have prevented the Holocaust. And as Alex Seitz-Wald, a journalist then writing for Salon, explained in 2013, the full story of Nazi gun regulation is more complicated than Carson and his ilk might like:

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them....

[Hitler's] "1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.​

The 1938 law did ban Jews from owning guns. But as the ADL explained in 2013, "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state," which eventually conquered most of Europe.

There was some armed Jewish resistance to the power of the Nazi war machine. But it often ended in death for the Jews involved.

In January 1943, Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up against the Nazis. Some 13,000 Jews died in the uprising. (They killed around 20 Nazis.) The rest were deported to concentration and extermination camps, where most were murdered.

My grandfather and grandmother had escaped from the ghetto before the uprising and gone into hiding in the countryside. They survived.

More: Ben Carson Blames Holocaust On Gun Control

Ben Carson should learn some factual history.

Are? You? Kidding? Me? Just how ignorant can you liberals be? YOU need to learn some "factual history." Are you not aware that the Nazis confiscated guns from Jews so that when it came time to round up the Jews and ship them off to concentration camps, they would be defenseless? Gosh, seriously, folks. Carson did not say that the Jews would have been able to stop the Holocaust but that it would have been harder to round them up and ship them off if they had been armed. Heard of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? Google it and learn some "factual history."

It is pathetic to twist Carson's words and accuse him of blaming the Holocaust on gun control.

Just because the ADL, a left-wing Jewish group, is "offended" by the facts of history doesn't mean those facts are not facts. And just because a left-wing rag like Salon minimizes the impact of Nazi gun laws on Jews does not change the fact that the Jews were disarmed.

How ignorant can you people be of basic history? How can you not know that the Nazis systematically disarmed the Jews and made it a crime for a Jew to own any kind of gun? Even the "historian" quoted in the Salon article acknowledged that the Jews were singled out in Nazi gun control legislation. Why do you suppose the Nazis did that?

This silliness reminds of when liberals went ape over Ted Cruz's perfectly factual point that a major reason for the 2nd Amendment was to give the people the ability to resist federal tyranny.

 

[mikegriffith1]

And it's ironic that one of this forum's worst anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli posters is citing the ADL.

 

[JoeB131]

Go fuck yourself you self-righteous ass-wipe. That is not what he stated and, as a Jew, I have much more right to take offense or non-offense to what Carson stated!

I am not offended and in fact believe he is 100% right. The Holocaust would have still happened, but just like the Jews did in Warsaw, they could have fought back! The Warsaw Jews fought harder than the entire Polish Army did and they lasted longer!

Yeah, not really. The Warsaw ghetto didn't rise up against the Germans until they heard the Soviets were getting close, and then were kind of screwed when the Red Army stopped its advance because, hey, the didn't want to deal with these jagdorks after the war.

Before that, they were happy to turn over their neighbors for conscript labor.

Okay, getting back to Uncle Tom Carson's Point. The Nazis didn't confiscate guns. In fact, for German citizens, the Weimar Gun control laws (enacted because the Nazis and other armed gangs were having gunfights in the street) were repealed and it became easier for an average German to acquire a gun.

The guy who brought gun control to Germany, ironically, was Dwight D. Eisenhower.

He ordered German citizens to be disarmed when a few of them took potshots at allied troops.

 

[JoeB131]

Are you not aware that the Nazis confiscated guns from Jews so that when it came time to round up the Jews and ship them off to concentration camps, they would be defenseless? Gosh, seriously, folks. Carson did not say that the Jews would have been able to stop the Holocaust but that it would have been harder to round them up and ship them off if they had been armed. Heard of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? Google it and learn some "factual history."

Uh, yeah, I did. For four years, the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto went along with whatever the Nazis told them to do, and only "rose up" when they heard the Red Army was just outside the city. And then the Red Army failed to save them.

 

[Jroc]

The Anti-Defamation League says these sorts of comments are "historically inaccurate and offensive."

Ben Carson, a candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, blamed the Holocaust on Nazi gun control in an interview on CNN Thursday.

Host Wolf Blitzer read a section from Carson's book, A More Perfect Union, in which Carson writes:

German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler's regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior ... Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.​

"I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed," Carson elaborated in the interview. "There's a reason these dictatorial people take the guns first."

The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors and responds to anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, has long opposed the use of Nazi comparisons in the U.S. gun control debate. "The idea that supporters of gun control are doing something akin to what Hitler’s Germany did to strip citizens of guns in the run-up to the Second World War is historically inaccurate and offensive, especially to Holocaust survivors and their families," Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director at the time, said in 2013.

Conservatives have a history of comparing gun control advocates to Hitler and the Nazis. The ADL's 2013 comments were provoked by The Drudge Report's choice to use an image of Hitler to illustrate news that President Barack Obama was pursuing limited gun control measures after 20 first-graders and six school staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, were murdered by a gunman.

Many historians disagree with the idea that armed German Jews could have prevented the Holocaust. And as Alex Seitz-Wald, a journalist then writing for Salon, explained in 2013, the full story of Nazi gun regulation is more complicated than Carson and his ilk might like:

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them....

[Hitler's] "1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.​

The 1938 law did ban Jews from owning guns. But as the ADL explained in 2013, "the small number of personal firearms in the hands of the small number of Germany’s Jews (about 214,000) remaining in Germany in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state," which eventually conquered most of Europe.

There was some armed Jewish resistance to the power of the Nazi war machine. But it often ended in death for the Jews involved.

In January 1943, Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up against the Nazis. Some 13,000 Jews died in the uprising. (They killed around 20 Nazis.) The rest were deported to concentration and extermination camps, where most were murdered.

My grandfather and grandmother had escaped from the ghetto before the uprising and gone into hiding in the countryside. They survived.

More: Ben Carson Blames Holocaust On Gun Control

Ben Carson should learn some factual history.

Are? You? Kidding? Me? Just how ignorant can you liberals be? YOU need to learn some "factual history." Are you not aware that the Nazis confiscated guns from Jews so that when it came time to round up the Jews and ship them off to concentration camps, they would be defenseless? Gosh, seriously, folks. Carson did not say that the Jews would have been able to stop the Holocaust but that it would have been harder to round them up and ship them off if they had been armed. Heard of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? Google it and learn some "factual history."

It is pathetic to twist Carson's words and accuse him of blaming the Holocaust on gun control.

Just because the ADL, a left-wing Jewish group, is "offended" by the facts of history doesn't mean those facts are not facts. And just because a left-wing rag like Salon minimizes the impact of Nazi gun laws on Jews does not change the fact that the Jews were disarmed.

How ignorant can you people be of basic history? How can you not know that the Nazis systematically disarmed the Jews and made it a crime for a Jew to own any kind of gun? Even the "historian" quoted in the Salon article acknowledged that the Jews were singled out in Nazi gun control legislation. Why do you suppose the Nazis did that?

This silliness reminds of when liberals went ape over Ted Cruz's perfectly factual point that a major reason for the 2nd Amendment was to give the people the ability to resist federal tyranny.

This is Obama's ADL. Led by an former White House aid Jonathan Greenblatt. They are one of the few Jewish groups, along with Obama's Jstreet group who supported the Iran deal. Is it surprising that Obama's people oppose Ben Carson?