Beautiful piece of progressive propaganda. Trump is a bad man.

Nationalism makes perfect sense, and that's where progressives get lost on things.

For the rest of us, it's particularly clear the elite want a dumbed down public under one-world order, where there's the very rich, and the rest of us are fucked.

Trump largely alone as world leaders take aim at nationalism

Nationalism makes perfect sense until it starts falling down.

Nationalism is about hiding reality behind a screen of "patriotism".

List of figures in nationalism - Wikipedia

A list of nationalists. How many of these were actually effective?

You're making a false correlation. DICTATORS NEED to be nationalistic. Nationalists don't NEED to be dictators.

It's a generic term not equivalent to aggression nor tyranny...

Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?
 
Nationalism makes perfect sense, and that's where progressives get lost on things.

For the rest of us, it's particularly clear the elite want a dumbed down public under one-world order, where there's the very rich, and the rest of us are fucked.

Trump largely alone as world leaders take aim at nationalism

Nationalism makes perfect sense until it starts falling down.

Nationalism is about hiding reality behind a screen of "patriotism".

List of figures in nationalism - Wikipedia

A list of nationalists. How many of these were actually effective?

You're making a false correlation. DICTATORS NEED to be nationalistic. Nationalists don't NEED to be dictators.

It's a generic term not equivalent to aggression nor tyranny...

Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.
 
Nationalism makes perfect sense, and that's where progressives get lost on things.

For the rest of us, it's particularly clear the elite want a dumbed down public under one-world order, where there's the very rich, and the rest of us are fucked.

Trump largely alone as world leaders take aim at nationalism

Nationalism makes perfect sense until it starts falling down.

Nationalism is about hiding reality behind a screen of "patriotism".

List of figures in nationalism - Wikipedia

A list of nationalists. How many of these were actually effective?

You're making a false correlation. DICTATORS NEED to be nationalistic. Nationalists don't NEED to be dictators.

It's a generic term not equivalent to aggression nor tyranny...

Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.

Was for first 150 years. Worked out really well. IN FACT, for most of that time we were WORSE than nationalistic. We were ISOLATIONALIST.

You got a problem with England reclaiming their national sovereignty? Brexit was a Nationalist movement. And good Switzerland was nationalistic enough to never fall for an unaccountable EU..

It's nothing bad. Nothing bad at all..
 
Nationalism makes perfect sense until it starts falling down.

Nationalism is about hiding reality behind a screen of "patriotism".

List of figures in nationalism - Wikipedia

A list of nationalists. How many of these were actually effective?

You're making a false correlation. DICTATORS NEED to be nationalistic. Nationalists don't NEED to be dictators.

It's a generic term not equivalent to aggression nor tyranny...

Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.

Was for first 150 years. Worked out really well. IN FACT, for most of that time we were WORSE than nationalistic. We were ISOLATIONALIST.

You got a problem with England reclaiming their national sovereignty? Brexit was a Nationalist movement. And good Switzerland was nationalistic enough to never fall for an unaccountable EU..

It's nothing bad. Nothing bad at all..

No, it wasn't for the first 150 years at all.

There are certain characteristics that are similar to Nationalism, but it wasn't Nationalism.

Yes, the US was, to a small extent, isolationist.

Not in terms of trade though. The North and the South were at each others' throats right from the beginning. The South had cotton which they needed to sell to other countries, and the North wanted to buy the products made with that cotton from other countries and the like, so their outlook was different.

The slave trade was a large part of the cotton industry.

Cotton production in the United States - Wikipedia

"Prior to the U.S Civil War, cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. "

Cotton | 1912-2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Cotton was an important industry. This goes back to 1912 which is in the first 150 years, and there was a lot of cotton being exported.

us-cotton-production-graph3.png


Brexit is a Nationalistic movement, but that doesn't make the UK Nationalistic. Nationalism is a whole political system that takes over a country, not just "oh, we're leaving the EU".
 
You're making a false correlation. DICTATORS NEED to be nationalistic. Nationalists don't NEED to be dictators.

It's a generic term not equivalent to aggression nor tyranny...

Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.

Was for first 150 years. Worked out really well. IN FACT, for most of that time we were WORSE than nationalistic. We were ISOLATIONALIST.

You got a problem with England reclaiming their national sovereignty? Brexit was a Nationalist movement. And good Switzerland was nationalistic enough to never fall for an unaccountable EU..

It's nothing bad. Nothing bad at all..

No, it wasn't for the first 150 years at all.

There are certain characteristics that are similar to Nationalism, but it wasn't Nationalism.

Yes, the US was, to a small extent, isolationist.

Not in terms of trade though. The North and the South were at each others' throats right from the beginning. The South had cotton which they needed to sell to other countries, and the North wanted to buy the products made with that cotton from other countries and the like, so their outlook was different.

The slave trade was a large part of the cotton industry.

Cotton production in the United States - Wikipedia

"Prior to the U.S Civil War, cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. "

Cotton | 1912-2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Cotton was an important industry. This goes back to 1912 which is in the first 150 years, and there was a lot of cotton being exported.

us-cotton-production-graph3.png

You really have NO CLUE what nationalism is -- do ya "cotton" head....

Cotton?? exports?? :auiqs.jpg:
 
Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.

Was for first 150 years. Worked out really well. IN FACT, for most of that time we were WORSE than nationalistic. We were ISOLATIONALIST.

You got a problem with England reclaiming their national sovereignty? Brexit was a Nationalist movement. And good Switzerland was nationalistic enough to never fall for an unaccountable EU..

It's nothing bad. Nothing bad at all..

No, it wasn't for the first 150 years at all.

There are certain characteristics that are similar to Nationalism, but it wasn't Nationalism.

Yes, the US was, to a small extent, isolationist.

Not in terms of trade though. The North and the South were at each others' throats right from the beginning. The South had cotton which they needed to sell to other countries, and the North wanted to buy the products made with that cotton from other countries and the like, so their outlook was different.

The slave trade was a large part of the cotton industry.

Cotton production in the United States - Wikipedia

"Prior to the U.S Civil War, cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. "

Cotton | 1912-2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Cotton was an important industry. This goes back to 1912 which is in the first 150 years, and there was a lot of cotton being exported.

us-cotton-production-graph3.png

You really have NO CLUE what nationalism is -- do ya "cotton" head....

Cotton?? exports?? :auiqs.jpg:

Fucking hell, what a fucking ridiculous response that does not deserve anything other than "grow the fuck up".
 
The entire world outside your ridiculous bubble of GOP BS hate propaganda thinks you are insane. Only the Rupert Murdoch TV channel and newspapers agrees with you. You are in fact functionally insane like most GOP voters who get their idiotic alternative facts direct from GOP greedy idiot billionaires.
I'm not a member of the G.O.P you stupid child.


You leftist fundamentalists are just the same as the religious fundies of the right. They call anybody a liberal if they don't thump a bible and claim the world is only 6000 years old. You call anybody a conservative if they are so much as a half step to the right of Che Guevara.

Heck, the first time I noticed you, I thought you were a neo Nazi due to the combination of your avatar and your antisemitism. I see,now, that you are merely an uneducated leftist with no more awareness of world than a child.
If you call having a masters in history uneducated LOL and having been to Europe 23 times and fluent in French and Spanish. So who do you vote for, and do you believe Hillary and Obama and Lerner and holder are corrupt and protected? If you believe all that crap and don't vote for Democrats, you are a GOP dupe no matter what you call yourself. If you vote Democratic, congratulations.

Interesting, is that the result of your education? Looks more like an indoctrination. Your point in simple terms: If you don't believe Democrats have high integrity + don't vote Democrat = GOP dupe
The GOP propaganda machine and their kowtowing politicians and Trump are totally fos. The worst thing that's ever happened to American politics... Took a lot of study reading listening to all media and 10 years of listening to you Jokers on message boards... Indoctrination is listening to Rush Limbaugh for a year and believing you know everything, like GOP scholars

Ha ha ha ha @ GOP propaganda machine. Yet you claim to have access to the media............SMH.
so how many arrest have been made for the crimes of Hillary the foundation Obama holder learner... Absolutely ridiculous garbage character assassination for 25 years. All you have is Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh garbage.
 
Nationalism makes perfect sense, and that's where progressives get lost on things.

For the rest of us, it's particularly clear the elite want a dumbed down public under one-world order, where there's the very rich, and the rest of us are fucked.

Trump largely alone as world leaders take aim at nationalism

Nationalism makes perfect sense until it starts falling down.

Nationalism is about hiding reality behind a screen of "patriotism".

List of figures in nationalism - Wikipedia

A list of nationalists. How many of these were actually effective?

You're making a false correlation. DICTATORS NEED to be nationalistic. Nationalists don't NEED to be dictators.

It's a generic term not equivalent to aggression nor tyranny...

Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.

No? Huh..................I'm sure those fighting in the Revolutionary War would agree.
 
Anytime someone says "all" or "everyone" it's code the messenger is insecure and desires everyone thinks as they do.


Lock step conformity like this also follows an unquestioning nature.

Many are incapable of understanding WHY they support one position over another, only that all their little peeps do so.
The entire world outside your ridiculous bubble of GOP BS hate propaganda thinks you are insane. Only the Rupert Murdoch TV channel and newspapers agrees with you. You are in fact functionally insane like most GOP voters who get their idiotic alternative facts direct from GOP greedy idiot billionaires.
I'm not a member of the G.O.P you stupid child.


You leftist fundamentalists are just the same as the religious fundies of the right. They call anybody a liberal if they don't thump a bible and claim the world is only 6000 years old. You call anybody a conservative if they are so much as a half step to the right of Che Guevara.

Heck, the first time I noticed you, I thought you were a neo Nazi due to the combination of your avatar and your antisemitism. I see,now, that you are merely an uneducated leftist with no more awareness of world than a child.
If you call having a masters in history uneducated LOL and having been to Europe 23 times and fluent in French and Spanish. So who do you vote for, and do you believe Hillary and Obama and Lerner and holder are corrupt and protected? If you believe all that crap and don't vote for Democrats, you are a GOP dupe no matter what you call yourself. If you vote Democratic, congratulations.
Have you ever considerrd showinh us the sort of knowledge a Masters degree world actually indicate instead of indulging in all this very childish and extremely simple minded broadbrushing?
 
Anytime someone says "all" or "everyone" it's code the messenger is insecure and desires everyone thinks as they do.


Lock step conformity like this also follows an unquestioning nature.

Many are incapable of understanding WHY they support one position over another, only that all their little peeps do so.
The entire world outside your ridiculous bubble of GOP BS hate propaganda thinks you are insane. Only the Rupert Murdoch TV channel and newspapers agrees with you. You are in fact functionally insane like most GOP voters who get their idiotic alternative facts direct from GOP greedy idiot billionaires.
I'm not a member of the G.O.P you stupid child.


You leftist fundamentalists are just the same as the religious fundies of the right. They call anybody a liberal if they don't thump a bible and claim the world is only 6000 years old. You call anybody a conservative if they are so much as a half step to the right of Che Guevara.

Heck, the first time I noticed you, I thought you were a neo Nazi due to the combination of your avatar and your antisemitism. I see,now, that you are merely an uneducated leftist with no more awareness of world than a child.
If you call having a masters in history uneducated LOL and having been to Europe 23 times and fluent in French and Spanish. So who do you vote for, and do you believe Hillary and Obama and Lerner and holder are corrupt and protected? If you believe all that crap and don't vote for Democrats, you are a GOP dupe no matter what you call yourself. If you vote Democratic, congratulations.
Have you ever considerrd showinh us the sort of knowledge a Masters degree world actually indicate instead of indulging in all this very childish and extremely simple minded broadbrushing?
That's what happens when you're well informed and not wandering around in the trees while missing the forest... You right wing dupes don't believe in our institutions anymore or our leaders, you are conspiracy theorists based on nothing but garbage propaganda. People people are innocent until proven guilty, and all your phony scandals have gone nowhere in the real world of real journalism and real law enforcement. The GOP is a lying thieving disgrace. Your billionaire brainwashers are laughing all the way to the bank while inequality and upward Mobility have never been worse, super duper.
 
Nationalism makes perfect sense until it starts falling down.

Nationalism is about hiding reality behind a screen of "patriotism".

List of figures in nationalism - Wikipedia

A list of nationalists. How many of these were actually effective?

You're making a false correlation. DICTATORS NEED to be nationalistic. Nationalists don't NEED to be dictators.

It's a generic term not equivalent to aggression nor tyranny...

Can you show me where nationalism has worked?

Can you show me where nationalism hasn't turned into a form of dictatorship?

Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.

No? Huh..................I'm sure those fighting in the Revolutionary War would agree.

I'm sure they wouldn't have, seeing how the term didn't really mean this until the 1840s at the earliest.

nationalism | Origin and meaning of nationalism by Online Etymology Dictionary
 
All good points...but globalism isn’t all bad either...and nationalism does have a dark side. I remember ages ago in a high school history class, learning about the development of human states. From tribes to city states to nation states to modern nations to now..globalism. Did each step lead to a disenfranchised group that did not benefit like the rest? I think nationalism is just another form of tribalism.

Agree with you on China though!

As I stated earlier, nationalism is the mother of patriotism and you can't have one without the other. Globalism is a cute word for One World Government/New World Order. I'll be damned if I would ever obey the rule of the UN that Obama wants to be the emperor of. That's the Alinsky Rules for Radicals and it is totally Progressive Socialism. Our Founding Fathers were strict nationalists and they would be horrified at the thought of globalism.
I guess I see globalism as trade and a common shared set of denocratic values.

I see that too and that's what it's supposed to be but Progressives have made it a slave to One World Government principles. I can't understand why everyone cant see that it is not good.

One World Corporate principles. Corporations are multinational. Financial institutions are multinational. And hedge funds.
I don't know if I would lay that all at the feet of Progressives. They just happen to be the latest to get ate up and spout the Cold War propaganda of "spreading democracy".

Of course. But even the middle class are urged to have "international exposure" in their security portfolios. It's not a bourgeoisie thing -- even the PEONS have global exposure. That's not a bad form of globalism. Unless YOUR portfolio is all in China.

And that too brings it's own issues. There are places where because your employer is contributing then they call the shots.

I remember when there was a shift from pensions to IRAs and they sent in their financial advisers in to talk about how awesome this was and that people could not survive on pensions and blah, blah, blah. The average iron worker has no knowledge of any of this crap. They know their job inside and out. Don't have the time to devote to learning that inside and out.

Then when we saw this last recession the same group of people started kicking out articles saying not to depend on that for retirement. After people lost just about everything.

Now, they want to redo Social Security into individual accounts but don't want to talk about that important crap like fees for "financial management". Wonder what bank will be collecting that. If we like our bank do we get to keep our bank?-she asked in jest.

See now, I started out to agree with you and I am sure that there are those (peons and middle class) that do but now I am back to.......power to the people. :rock:
 
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Yes please, USA. It's located in the North American Continent. Ever heard of it?

No, the US is not a Nationalistic form of government.

Was for first 150 years. Worked out really well. IN FACT, for most of that time we were WORSE than nationalistic. We were ISOLATIONALIST.

You got a problem with England reclaiming their national sovereignty? Brexit was a Nationalist movement. And good Switzerland was nationalistic enough to never fall for an unaccountable EU..

It's nothing bad. Nothing bad at all..

No, it wasn't for the first 150 years at all.

There are certain characteristics that are similar to Nationalism, but it wasn't Nationalism.

Yes, the US was, to a small extent, isolationist.

Not in terms of trade though. The North and the South were at each others' throats right from the beginning. The South had cotton which they needed to sell to other countries, and the North wanted to buy the products made with that cotton from other countries and the like, so their outlook was different.

The slave trade was a large part of the cotton industry.

Cotton production in the United States - Wikipedia

"Prior to the U.S Civil War, cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. "

Cotton | 1912-2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Cotton was an important industry. This goes back to 1912 which is in the first 150 years, and there was a lot of cotton being exported.

us-cotton-production-graph3.png

You really have NO CLUE what nationalism is -- do ya "cotton" head....

Cotton?? exports?? :auiqs.jpg:

Fucking hell, what a fucking ridiculous response that does not deserve anything other than "grow the fuck up".
find a mirror, did you?

thats-a-bold-strategy-cotton-gif.png
 
Stalin was a Nationalist. So was Musollini. That's where RWNJ's get lost on things.

So was George Washington dumb dumb, and any other POTUS that's worth a shit. It's simple logic, but again, that's where progressives get lost, and you demonstrate so.

Course Obama didn't fit the mold huh? Your points are consistently worthless.

So are yours. But it’s nice to see to you admit that Trump is a white supremacist. On that basis alone, he should be removed from office.

You’re celebrating the politics of Mussolin and Hitler. Which is why white nationalism is considered odious, at best.
 
As I stated earlier, nationalism is the mother of patriotism and you can't have one without the other. Globalism is a cute word for One World Government/New World Order. I'll be damned if I would ever obey the rule of the UN that Obama wants to be the emperor of. That's the Alinsky Rules for Radicals and it is totally Progressive Socialism. Our Founding Fathers were strict nationalists and they would be horrified at the thought of globalism.
I guess I see globalism as trade and a common shared set of denocratic values.

I see that too and that's what it's supposed to be but Progressives have made it a slave to One World Government principles. I can't understand why everyone cant see that it is not good.

One World Corporate principles. Corporations are multinational. Financial institutions are multinational. And hedge funds.
I don't know if I would lay that all at the feet of Progressives. They just happen to be the latest to get ate up and spout the Cold War propaganda of "spreading democracy".

Of course. But even the middle class are urged to have "international exposure" in their security portfolios. It's not a bourgeoisie thing -- even the PEONS have global exposure. That's not a bad form of globalism. Unless YOUR portfolio is all in China.

And that too brings it's own issues. There are places where because your employer is contributing then they call the shots.

I remember when there was a shift from pensions to IRAs and they sent in their financial advisers in to talk about how awesome this was and that people could not survive on pensions and blah, blah, blah. The average iron worker has no knowledge of any of this crap. They know their job inside and out. Don't have the time to devote to learning that inside and out.

Then when we saw this last recession the same group of people started kicking out articles saying not to depend on that for retirement. After people lost just about everything.

Now, they want to redo Social Security into individual accounts but don't want to talk about that important crap like fees for "financial management". Wonder what bank will be collecting that. If we like our bank do we get to keep our bank?-she asked in jest.

See now, I started out to agree with you and I am sure that there are those (peons and middle class) that do but now I am back to.......power to the people. :rock:


A lot of things are simpler than experts make them out to be. First example I can think of is helping my Dad on signing up for Medicare. I went to visit, and there was a 3 foot pile of pitches, ads, brochures for Medicare plans. Ask him why he was keeping all that and he said -- "too confusing to figure out".. I spent a day going over it, discovered that by law, there were only 2 or 3 "supplement" choices -- only 2 of which applied to him. Also resolved the "drug option". And that 3 foot pile of crap only varied by about $8 to $15 a month in cost. Worked out fine.

Great if your employer wants to kick into a 401K with you. If not, IRAs will do just fine. And unless you like gambling and watching stock tickers, four or five index funds and/or ETFs is all you need. That "global exposure" is easily covered with everything else.

The fees on stock transactions are trivial for average investor who is not constantly adjusting. Much less than the couple $trillion that was stolen from the pockets of the working poor by raiding the Soc Security surpluses for 30 years and leaving NOTHING OF VALUE in the "trust fund".. The Feds and Congress ROBBED you TWICE on your lifetime soc sec payments --- and you're worried about the 0.5% fee on an ETF or Index Fund? Sleep well.. Keep it simple.. Support government that favors offering choices.
 
Stalin was a Nationalist. So was Musollini. That's where RWNJ's get lost on things.

And Stalin, Lenin, Krushev, Bernie, and Occasio-Cortez are Socialists. That is where the Left gets lost on things. So what is your point Wile E?
 

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