Be Sure To Get Your Flu Shot?

[Emma]

Bump for the memories.

Desiree Jennings "cured" of her "vaccine-induced dystonia"? : Respectful Insolence

Excellent.

But, unknowingly, Dr. Buttar was about to administer what can be considered a significant test of the hypothesis that Jennings' symptoms are psychogenic. One test we can use to help confirm this diagnosis is to see if the patient's symptoms can respond to psychological treatments or to medical treatments that should not otherwise be capable of reversing the symptoms. A response that is too quick to be plausible, for example, is one type of response that supports a psychogenic diagnosis. One dramatic example from my own experience was a patient with apparently psychogenic symptoms who believed that he needed a specific IV medication as a treatment. After extensive negative workup, we agreed to give him the treatment, and his symptoms completely resolved even before the medicine had a chance to work its way through the IV tubing and into his arm.
If Jennings really had dystonia or any biological brain injury from toxicity, removing the toxin might prevent further progression and allow the slow process of recovery to begin. But brain damage does not immediately reverse itself once the cause is removed. It is possible for dystonia to be a side effect of certain medications, and it can immediately resolve once that medication is stopped or reversed. But in that situation we are dealing with an effect of an active blood level of a pharmaceutical agent - something which is inherently reversible. We are not dealing with damage or injury.
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However, now Jennings herself, and Dr. Buttar, report that Jennings began to improve while still sitting in the chair and receiving her chelation therapy, and within 36 hours her symptoms were completely gone. First, let me say that I am very happy Ms. Jennings' symptoms have resolved. Hopefully now she can just go on with her life. But to me, this impossibly rapid recovery is a dramatic confirmation that her symptoms were psychogenic to begin with. It is simply implausible that brain injury from mercury toxicity could be reversed so quickly - especially when you consider that Dr. Buttar had Jennings at death's door.

I'm not so sure I'd go as far as to classify her as a victim. I'm not so sure this wasn't hoax.

 

[Emma]

washingtonpost.com

New CDC estimates show what toll swine flu is taking in U.S.

Number of child deaths is four times as high as had been reported

About 22 million Americans have become ill with pandemic H1N1 influenza in the past six months and 3,900 have died, according to new estimates by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The number of pediatric deaths -- about 540 -- is four times as high as the number that physicians, hospitals and health departments had reported to the public health agency in Atlanta.

All of the estimates come with substantial uncertainty. For example, total H1N1 cases in the United States range from 14 million to 34 million, and total deaths from 2,500 to 6,100.

The CDC had previously said 129 people younger than 18 had died from H1N1 flu. That is compared with 88 deaths from seasonal flu in 2007-08 and 78 deaths in 2006-07 -- the most recent two flu seasons before the H1N1 strain emerged.

The new estimate includes deaths that occurred outside hospitals, patients who tested negative for H1N1 but almost certainly had it, and other overlooked cases.

 

[geauxtohell]

washingtonpost.com

New CDC estimates show what toll swine flu is taking in U.S.

Number of child deaths is four times as high as had been reported

About 22 million Americans have become ill with pandemic H1N1 influenza in the past six months and 3,900 have died, according to new estimates by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The number of pediatric deaths -- about 540 -- is four times as high as the number that physicians, hospitals and health departments had reported to the public health agency in Atlanta.

All of the estimates come with substantial uncertainty. For example, total H1N1 cases in the United States range from 14 million to 34 million, and total deaths from 2,500 to 6,100.

The CDC had previously said 129 people younger than 18 had died from H1N1 flu. That is compared with 88 deaths from seasonal flu in 2007-08 and 78 deaths in 2006-07 -- the most recent two flu seasons before the H1N1 strain emerged.

The new estimate includes deaths that occurred outside hospitals, patients who tested negative for H1N1 but almost certainly had it, and other overlooked cases.

But Sinatra said this was no different than the seasonal flu!

 

[THE LIGHT]

why are you having such a problem with them preparing for a possible worst case scenario?

you seriously buying into that?

wouldnt you rather have them be prepared for something that never actually happens(so far i dont see it happening) than to not prepare and have it happen?

Oh they are prepared don't worry about that.

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/ayoub_1.jpg

1. An "informal" [e.g., illegal] clinical trial of the Avian Flu vaccine on about 200 Polish vagrants resulted in 11 immediate deaths and an additional set of 20 later deaths (approximately 15% of the test population). The doctors and nurses involved were charged with murder. (Fact. 2008)

2. The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines. (Fact)

3. The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its' primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to "eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans". (Fact, 1985-ongoing)

4. The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women. (Fact, ongoing)

5. Monsanto's MON 810 corn causes sterility according to studies published by the Austrian Government. (Fact, 2009)

6. Monsanto's MON 810 corn contains the Cauliflower Mosaic Virus which, when ingested, lowers the bodies CD 4 cells to a point which, on immune tests, indicate that a person has HIV/AIDS. The lowered CD 4 cells results from eating GMO corn, the staple of the diet in many parts of Black Africa. MON 810 is grown in Europe for animal feed and in many places, including the US, around the world for human food. (Fact, ongoing)

7. Merck's Gardasil vaccine causes death, collapse and chronic illness in young woman and girls, including a new, never-before described "disease" called Juvenile ALS, a fatal condition in which the nervous system is slowly destroyed while consciousness remains unimpaired. This vaccine increases cervical cancer by 44.7% in women and girls who already have Human Papilloma Virus. Cervical Cancer is easily detected and cured in early stages and is not a major killer of women. Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women receiving it and any protection lasts only a few years, so 9 year olds will probably not be sexually active by the time this protection has worn off. (Fact, ongoing)

8. Baxter International Inc. was in the process of applying for a contract to provide Avian Flu vaccines to European countries in the event of an Avian Flu epidemic. Its Austrian laboratory shipped Seasonal Flu vaccines to 18 countries in Europe. A laboratory technician tested the Baxter Seasonal Flu vaccines sent to the Czech Republic and discovered that they were contaminated with a highly pathogenic version of the Avian Flu, 72 Kilograms of it, although Level 3 precautions were in place and such contamination "could not have happened accidentally" according to experts in the field. No documentation of the destruction of this highly infective material has been provided although the Austrian Health Ministry insists that the deadly viral material was destroyed. (Fact, 2008, 2009)

9. It normally takes a minimum of 12 to 18 months to create a vaccine after a specific virus has been identified. (Fact)

10. The "Seed Culture" for the Swine Flu virus was provided to vaccine companies in May, 2009. Baxter International Inc. announced in June, 2009 that they would have their vaccine ready in July, 2009 . (Fact, 2009)

11. The US Government has spent more than a billion dollars to develop and to make available the Swine flu vaccine for a disease which poses no significant health threat. (Fact, 2009)

12. A significant number of virologists and other scientists are on record stating that the Swine Flu was created in a laboratory and could not evolve naturally. (Fact, 2009)

http://www.whale.to/a/cousens1.html

 

[AllieBaba]

no whats nuts is giving children live flu virus.. whats nut is now they say one is ineffective and two are required ..whats nuts is not recognizing the potential hazards of vaccines and having blind trust in pharmaceutical company's and government bureaucracy

Educate yourself, nimrod. You don't require two live virus nasal immunizations. You do require two of the killed virus immunization. It's not rocket science.

Flu and other vaccines which diminish the killing power of viruses have done more to improve the quality and length of life than any single t hing on the face of the earth. Yes there is the occasional fuck up....bad batches, human error, whatever. Likewise, occasionally e-coli takes out a few people, or a kid has a reaction to amoxycillin. It is not a reason to get rid of cows or eliminate antibiotics.

You take a chance when you get immunizations. A tiny, itty bitty, miniscule chance that you might get a contaminated batch or one that has toxins in it.

You take a much higher risk when you decide to go without.

 

[DiveCon]

you seriously buying into that?

wouldnt you rather have them be prepared for something that never actually happens(so far i dont see it happening) than to not prepare and have it happen?

Oh they are prepared don't worry about that.

1. An "informal" [e.g., illegal] clinical trial of the Avian Flu vaccine on about 200 Polish vagrants resulted in 11 immediate deaths and an additional set of 20 later deaths (approximately 15% of the test population). The doctors and nurses involved were charged with murder. (Fact. 2008)

2. The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines. (Fact)

3. The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its' primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to "eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans". (Fact, 1985-ongoing)

4. The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women. (Fact, ongoing)

5. Monsanto's MON 810 corn causes sterility according to studies published by the Austrian Government. (Fact, 2009)

6. Monsanto's MON 810 corn contains the Cauliflower Mosaic Virus which, when ingested, lowers the bodies CD 4 cells to a point which, on immune tests, indicate that a person has HIV/AIDS. The lowered CD 4 cells results from eating GMO corn, the staple of the diet in many parts of Black Africa. MON 810 is grown in Europe for animal feed and in many places, including the US, around the world for human food. (Fact, ongoing)

7. Merck's Gardasil vaccine causes death, collapse and chronic illness in young woman and girls, including a new, never-before described "disease" called Juvenile ALS, a fatal condition in which the nervous system is slowly destroyed while consciousness remains unimpaired. This vaccine increases cervical cancer by 44.7% in women and girls who already have Human Papilloma Virus. Cervical Cancer is easily detected and cured in early stages and is not a major killer of women. Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women receiving it and any protection lasts only a few years, so 9 year olds will probably not be sexually active by the time this protection has worn off. (Fact, ongoing)

8. Baxter International Inc. was in the process of applying for a contract to provide Avian Flu vaccines to European countries in the event of an Avian Flu epidemic. Its Austrian laboratory shipped Seasonal Flu vaccines to 18 countries in Europe. A laboratory technician tested the Baxter Seasonal Flu vaccines sent to the Czech Republic and discovered that they were contaminated with a highly pathogenic version of the Avian Flu, 72 Kilograms of it, although Level 3 precautions were in place and such contamination "could not have happened accidentally" according to experts in the field. No documentation of the destruction of this highly infective material has been provided although the Austrian Health Ministry insists that the deadly viral material was destroyed. (Fact, 2008, 2009)

9. It normally takes a minimum of 12 to 18 months to create a vaccine after a specific virus has been identified. (Fact)

10. The "Seed Culture" for the Swine Flu virus was provided to vaccine companies in May, 2009. Baxter International Inc. announced in June, 2009 that they would have their vaccine ready in July, 2009 . (Fact, 2009)

11. The US Government has spent more than a billion dollars to develop and to make available the Swine flu vaccine for a disease which poses no significant health threat. (Fact, 2009)

12. A significant number of virologists and other scientists are on record stating that the Swine Flu was created in a laboratory and could not evolve naturally. (Fact, 2009)

http://www.whale.to/a/cousens1.html

totally unsubstantiated claims

 

[geauxtohell]

no whats nuts is giving children live flu virus.. whats nut is now they say one is ineffective and two are required ..whats nuts is not recognizing the potential hazards of vaccines and having blind trust in pharmaceutical company's and government bureaucracy

Educate yourself, nimrod. You don't require two live virus nasal immunizations. You do require two of the killed virus immunization. It's not rocket science.

Flu and other vaccines which diminish the killing power of viruses have done more to improve the quality and length of life than any single t hing on the face of the earth. Yes there is the occasional fuck up....bad batches, human error, whatever. Likewise, occasionally e-coli takes out a few people, or a kid has a reaction to amoxycillin. It is not a reason to get rid of cows or eliminate antibiotics.

You take a chance when you get immunizations. A tiny, itty bitty, miniscule chance that you might get a contaminated batch or one that has toxins in it.

You take a much higher risk when you decide to go without.

It's okay. Big Pharma is an evil entity. True health and wellness is via the all natural route.

Because we all know that no "all natural" or supplemental item has ever been linked to adverse outcomes:

Kava - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[THE LIGHT]

wouldnt you rather have them be prepared for something that never actually happens(so far i dont see it happening) than to not prepare and have it happen?

Oh they are prepared don't worry about that.

1. An "informal" [e.g., illegal] clinical trial of the Avian Flu vaccine on about 200 Polish vagrants resulted in 11 immediate deaths and an additional set of 20 later deaths (approximately 15% of the test population). The doctors and nurses involved were charged with murder. (Fact. 2008)

2. The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines. (Fact)

3. The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its' primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to "eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans". (Fact, 1985-ongoing)

4. The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women. (Fact, ongoing)

5. Monsanto's MON 810 corn causes sterility according to studies published by the Austrian Government. (Fact, 2009)

6. Monsanto's MON 810 corn contains the Cauliflower Mosaic Virus which, when ingested, lowers the bodies CD 4 cells to a point which, on immune tests, indicate that a person has HIV/AIDS. The lowered CD 4 cells results from eating GMO corn, the staple of the diet in many parts of Black Africa. MON 810 is grown in Europe for animal feed and in many places, including the US, around the world for human food. (Fact, ongoing)

7. Merck's Gardasil vaccine causes death, collapse and chronic illness in young woman and girls, including a new, never-before described "disease" called Juvenile ALS, a fatal condition in which the nervous system is slowly destroyed while consciousness remains unimpaired. This vaccine increases cervical cancer by 44.7% in women and girls who already have Human Papilloma Virus. Cervical Cancer is easily detected and cured in early stages and is not a major killer of women. Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women receiving it and any protection lasts only a few years, so 9 year olds will probably not be sexually active by the time this protection has worn off. (Fact, ongoing)

8. Baxter International Inc. was in the process of applying for a contract to provide Avian Flu vaccines to European countries in the event of an Avian Flu epidemic. Its Austrian laboratory shipped Seasonal Flu vaccines to 18 countries in Europe. A laboratory technician tested the Baxter Seasonal Flu vaccines sent to the Czech Republic and discovered that they were contaminated with a highly pathogenic version of the Avian Flu, 72 Kilograms of it, although Level 3 precautions were in place and such contamination "could not have happened accidentally" according to experts in the field. No documentation of the destruction of this highly infective material has been provided although the Austrian Health Ministry insists that the deadly viral material was destroyed. (Fact, 2008, 2009)

9. It normally takes a minimum of 12 to 18 months to create a vaccine after a specific virus has been identified. (Fact)

10. The "Seed Culture" for the Swine Flu virus was provided to vaccine companies in May, 2009. Baxter International Inc. announced in June, 2009 that they would have their vaccine ready in July, 2009 . (Fact, 2009)

11. The US Government has spent more than a billion dollars to develop and to make available the Swine flu vaccine for a disease which poses no significant health threat. (Fact, 2009)

12. A significant number of virologists and other scientists are on record stating that the Swine Flu was created in a laboratory and could not evolve naturally. (Fact, 2009)

http://www.whale.to/a/cousens1.html

totally unsubstantiated claims

If you say so.

 

[DiveCon]

Oh they are prepared don't worry about that.



http://www.whale.to/a/cousens1.html

totally unsubstantiated claims

If you say so.

not just ME
they didnt provide anything to BACK up the claims
you use shoddy sources

kinda like the nutty troofers and birfers do

 

[Emma]

totally unsubstantiated claims

If you say so.

not just ME
they didnt provide anything to BACK up the claims
you use shoddy sources

kinda like the nutty troofers and birfers do

Troofers, birfers... flufers?

 

[geauxtohell]

totally unsubstantiated claims

If you say so.

not just ME
they didnt provide anything to BACK up the claims
you use shoddy sources

kinda like the nutty troofers and birfers do

Speaking of:

7. Merck's Gardasil vaccine causes death, collapse and chronic illness in young woman and girls, including a new, never-before described "disease" called Juvenile ALS, a fatal condition in which the nervous system is slowly destroyed while consciousness remains unimpaired. This vaccine increases cervical cancer by 44.7% in women and girls who already have Human Papilloma Virus. Cervical Cancer is easily detected and cured in early stages and is not a major killer of women. Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women receiving it and any protection lasts only a few years, so 9 year olds will probably not be sexually active by the time this protection has worn off. (Fact, ongoing)

Wow. That's just a load of bullshit.

"Easily cured"? Only if you consider a total hysterectomy "easy".

Emma can correct me if I am wrong about any of my facts.

At any rate, I don't there is a single truthful statement in that blurb.

 

[Emma]

If you say so.

not just ME
they didnt provide anything to BACK up the claims
you use shoddy sources

kinda like the nutty troofers and birfers do

Speaking of:

7. Merck's Gardasil vaccine causes death, collapse and chronic illness in young woman and girls, including a new, never-before described "disease" called Juvenile ALS, a fatal condition in which the nervous system is slowly destroyed while consciousness remains unimpaired. This vaccine increases cervical cancer by 44.7% in women and girls who already have Human Papilloma Virus. Cervical Cancer is easily detected and cured in early stages and is not a major killer of women. Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women receiving it and any protection lasts only a few years, so 9 year olds will probably not be sexually active by the time this protection has worn off. (Fact, ongoing)

Wow. That's just a load of bullshit.

"Easily cured"? Only if you consider a total hysterectomy "easy".

Emma can correct me if I am wrong about any of my facts.

At any rate, I don't there is a single truthful statement in that blurb.

Let's not forget XRT and chemo. Loads of fun.

Some info from a reliable source:

Cancer Advances In Focus: Cervical Cancer - National Cancer Institute

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Prevention/HPV-vaccine

 

[geauxtohell]

not just ME
they didnt provide anything to BACK up the claims
you use shoddy sources

kinda like the nutty troofers and birfers do

Speaking of:

7. Merck's Gardasil vaccine causes death, collapse and chronic illness in young woman and girls, including a new, never-before described "disease" called Juvenile ALS, a fatal condition in which the nervous system is slowly destroyed while consciousness remains unimpaired. This vaccine increases cervical cancer by 44.7% in women and girls who already have Human Papilloma Virus. Cervical Cancer is easily detected and cured in early stages and is not a major killer of women. Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women receiving it and any protection lasts only a few years, so 9 year olds will probably not be sexually active by the time this protection has worn off. (Fact, ongoing)

Wow. That's just a load of bullshit.

"Easily cured"? Only if you consider a total hysterectomy "easy".

Emma can correct me if I am wrong about any of my facts.

At any rate, I don't there is a single truthful statement in that blurb.

Let's not forget XRT and chemo. Loads of fun.

Some info from a reliable source:

Cancer Advances In Focus: Cervical Cancer - National Cancer Institute

Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Vaccines - National Cancer Institute

What I suspect, and find scary, is that the misinformation about Gardasil is coming from the people who secretly believe that cervical cancer is the result of an STD, HPV 16 or 18, and the women who get it deserve to lose their cervix and uterus.

I can't explain the lies in any other manner aside from that.

Cervical cancer, like colon cancer, is virtually 100% preventable with the right preventative measures.

Hell, if I were still a single guy on the prowl, I'd get the vaccine. I don't want to spread the bad strains of HPV to my future wife.

 

[rachell32skeith]

haven't tried a flu shot ever...

 

[eagleseven]

Got my H1N1 shot two weeks ago, and am healthy as a clam!

 

[Emma]

Got my H1N1 shot two weeks ago, and am healthy as a clam!

You mean you're not walking backwards?

 

[eagleseven]

Got my H1N1 shot two weeks ago, and am healthy as a clam!

You mean you're not walking backwards?

I feel.....*spitting up blood*