Be clear

[Phoenall]

It is quite clear that 90% of the "lies" are associated with the Zionist myth and the propaganda Hasbara promulgates to keep the myth alive.

What Zionist myth is that then freddy boy

These 'Zionist myths' are all in Monti's head. They do not apply to real life, as they do not exist. He is s, as usual, accusing pro Israelis of literally EXACTLY what pro Palestinians are guilty of, another pro Palestinian tactic.

You mean like the myth that Palestine was not populated by Christians and Muslims when the European colonization began?

No like the Myth that there were no Jews in Palestine and that the arab muslims owned all the land

Whose myth is that? The Palestinians always recognized the native Jewish population.

Ask monte as he claims this all the time. And I believe that they only recognise those Jews born before the birth of Zionism. So they don't recognise any living Jews do they ?

 

[Phoenall]

"Shimon Peres, President of Israel, in a May 1998 La Monde Diplomatique editorial titled "Why Israel needs a Palestinian state," wrote:
"When Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, spoke of 'a people without a land' looking for 'a land without a people', he was not aware of the presence of an Arab population in Palestine or its future evolution."

May 1998 - Shimon Peres

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

"The early Zionists, as they promoted the slogan, 'A land without people for the people without a land,' completely overlooked the fact that the land in question was already populated and was hardly 'empty.'"

2001 - Allan C. Brownfeld

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org


"Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ
July 25, 1926

London (Jul. 23)

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier Weizmann Tells Actions Committ Jewish Telegraphic Agency

You're posting some writing from 1926 that talks about what WILL happen. Potentially. Nothing that DID happen.

Instead of posting emoticon's, why don't you try and refute what I said.

Easy, West Bank and Golan heights, once parts of Jordan and Syria.

And where is the colonisation as the Israelis offer these areas back in exchange for peace

 

[Phoenall]

"Shimon Peres, President of Israel, in a May 1998 La Monde Diplomatique editorial titled "Why Israel needs a Palestinian state," wrote:
"When Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, spoke of 'a people without a land' looking for 'a land without a people', he was not aware of the presence of an Arab population in Palestine or its future evolution."

May 1998 - Shimon Peres

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

"The early Zionists, as they promoted the slogan, 'A land without people for the people without a land,' completely overlooked the fact that the land in question was already populated and was hardly 'empty.'"

2001 - Allan C. Brownfeld

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org


"Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ
July 25, 1926

London (Jul. 23)

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier Weizmann Tells Actions Committ Jewish Telegraphic Agency

You're posting some writing from 1926 that talks about what WILL happen. Potentially. Nothing that DID happen.

What's so funny? toastman is right. Syria and Jordan did not become part of Israel.

Read the post carefully, then think about Zionist annexations of East Jerusalem, parts of the West Bank and the Golan heights. All of which were once part of Jordan and Syria. Got it now?

But no annexation has taken place, and east Jerusalem was never Jordans to begin with

 

[Phoenall]

Instead of posting emoticon's, why don't you try and refute what I said.

Easy, West Bank and Golan heights, once parts of Jordan and Syria.

Jordan annexed the WB and later offered the palestinians citizenship in Jordan. That did not go off well, it ended with Black September
Jordan retracted his claim to the WB and gave it to Israel in a land for peace deal.

Golan came under Israeli control after Syria attacked Israel. The high land is protection from another surprise attack. There is also a UN buffer zone.

Actually, when Jordan gave up rights to the WB in 1988, it was to the PLO. In 1994, when Jordan and Israel signed a peace treaty, Israel gave up a very small parcel of land to them from Israel proper. Everyone wants a slice of Israel.

Well, the Europeans took it from the Muslim and Christian inhabitants, shouldn't they want their land back?

It was Israel's to take as they where the sovereign owners under International law.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

"Shimon Peres, President of Israel, in a May 1998 La Monde Diplomatique editorial titled "Why Israel needs a Palestinian state," wrote:
"When Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, spoke of 'a people without a land' looking for 'a land without a people', he was not aware of the presence of an Arab population in Palestine or its future evolution."

May 1998 - Shimon Peres

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

"The early Zionists, as they promoted the slogan, 'A land without people for the people without a land,' completely overlooked the fact that the land in question was already populated and was hardly 'empty.'"

2001 - Allan C. Brownfeld

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org


"Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ
July 25, 1926

London (Jul. 23)

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier Weizmann Tells Actions Committ Jewish Telegraphic Agency

You're posting some writing from 1926 that talks about what WILL happen. Potentially. Nothing that DID happen.

What's so funny? toastman is right. Syria and Jordan did not become part of Israel.

Read the post carefully, then think about Zionist annexations of East Jerusalem, parts of the West Bank and the Golan heights. All of which were once part of Jordan and Syria. Got it now?

But no annexation has taken place, and east Jerusalem was never Jordans to begin with

Israel annexed East Jerusalem immediately after the miraculous Six-Day War, and rightfully so. This included the Walled Old City (only one square mile), some Arab neighborhoods outside the Old City Walls (which were actually Jewish prior to 1948), and some other Arab villages. None of the rest of the West Bank was officially annexed. While I was living for awhile in Israel, in 1981, Israel annexed the Golan Heights. It was big news at that time.

 

[toastman]

"Shimon Peres, President of Israel, in a May 1998 La Monde Diplomatique editorial titled "Why Israel needs a Palestinian state," wrote:
"When Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, spoke of 'a people without a land' looking for 'a land without a people', he was not aware of the presence of an Arab population in Palestine or its future evolution."

May 1998 - Shimon Peres

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

"The early Zionists, as they promoted the slogan, 'A land without people for the people without a land,' completely overlooked the fact that the land in question was already populated and was hardly 'empty.'"

2001 - Allan C. Brownfeld

Was Palestine a Land without a People - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org


"Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ
July 25, 1926

London (Jul. 23)

The contemplated trip to the United States of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Zionist Organization, the continuation of his efforts while in America to extend the Jewish Agency through his negotiations with the Marshall group, the possibilities of extending Jewish colonization work outside of the present Palestine frontiers, including. Transjordania and certain parts of Syria, were the main features around which the deliberations centered.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier Weizmann Tells Actions Committ Jewish Telegraphic Agency

You're posting some writing from 1926 that talks about what WILL happen. Potentially. Nothing that DID happen.

Instead of posting emoticon's, why don't you try and refute what I said.

Easy, West Bank and Golan heights, once parts of Jordan and Syria.

What are you even talking about ? You have some serious reading comprehension issues.