BBC calls out settlers for their "terrorism"

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BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination. They also said that the settlers were in violation of International Law.

BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
'Shameful' inaction
The United Nations says the number of attacks by extremist Jewish settlers on Palestinians resulting in either injury or damage to property has roughly tripled since 2009.

The UN says in 90% of complaints filed to the Israeli police by Palestinians against settlers, nobody is ever indicted.

In October, an Israeli army patrol was surrounded and assaulted by a group of extremist settlers in the West Bank.

Extremist settlers have set fire to West Bank mosques and daubed their walls with graffiti
The attack on the soldiers came after a Jewish teenager was arrested on suspicion of carrying out an arson attack on a Palestinian mosque.
The facts are the facts.
 
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Eugene Rostow, former Dean of the Yale Law School, Under Secretary of State in the Johnson administration, US State Dept Legal Advisor, Drafter of UN Res. 242 pertaining to Israeli land in the West Bank...Eugene V. Rostow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...."

The mandate implicitly denies Arab claims to national political rights in the area in favor of the Jews; the mandated territory was in effect reserved to the Jewish people for their self-determination and political development, in acknowledgment of the historic connection of the Jewish people to the land. Lord Curzon, who was then the British Foreign Minister, made this reading of the mandate explicit. There remains simply the theory that the Arab inhabitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have an inherent 'natural law' claim to the area. Neither customary international law nor the United Nations Charter acknowledges that every group of people claiming to be a nation has the right to a state of its own."

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BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination. They also said that the settlers were in violation of International Law.

BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
'Shameful' inaction
The United Nations says the number of attacks by extremist Jewish settlers on Palestinians resulting in either injury or damage to property has roughly tripled since 2009.

The UN says in 90% of complaints filed to the Israeli police by Palestinians against settlers, nobody is ever indicted.

In October, an Israeli army patrol was surrounded and assaulted by a group of extremist settlers in the West Bank.

Extremist settlers have set fire to West Bank mosques and daubed their walls with graffiti
The attack on the soldiers came after a Jewish teenager was arrested on suspicion of carrying out an arson attack on a Palestinian mosque.
The facts are the facts.

Yes facts are facts; the bigest is there are criminals in every society in the world. the difference is if a jew commits a crime againts palestinians and the police can catcth them they are prosecuted.As witnessed by your post,even to the point of risking harm to their soldiers to bring the punk to justice.( the whole 90% I think is a little high in my opinion due to UN propaganda but I may be wrong) In any case it beats the 100% of palestinian terrorists who are not arrestd by hamas the so called government of the palestinians. Not only does hamas show 0 interest in catching criminals commiting crimes against Israelis they openly encourage it.
SO THANK YOU For the post showing why the Israeli is so much better than the palestinian.
 
Here's the clincher voiced by an israeli General:
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
Brigadier General Alon said not enough had been done to tackle Jewish extremism referring to price tag attacks as "terror".

"These acts not only should be condemned for their folly and wrongdoing but we should also have done more to prevent them and to arrest the perpetrators," he said in his outgoing speech.
 
THIS is your *cough* "source"?:

Dumbass, this is my source...

Eugene Rostow, Legal scholar, Former Dean of the Yale Law School, Under Secretary of State in the Johnson administration, US State Dept Legal Advisor, Drafter of UN Res. 242 pertaining to Israeli land in the West Bank
Eugene V. Rostow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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If its so reputable why is it relegated to some nowhere website eh boy? :eua_eh: :eusaand: :cla2: :lol:

Rostow's essay first appeared in The New Republic. You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer
http://www.takeapen.org/english/Articles/Art13122003.htm

Run to mommy, stupid little boy
 
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Here's the clincher voiced by an israeli General:
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
Brigadier General Alon said not enough had been done to tackle Jewish extremism referring to price tag attacks as "terror".

"These acts not only should be condemned for their folly and wrongdoing but we should also have done more to prevent them and to arrest the perpetrators," he said in his outgoing speech.

agreed but it still doesnt adress the fact that hamas does nothing and even encourages more attacks. so answer that.
 
Resistance to occupation

Si, puta, Arabs must cease occupying Israel where Jews have lived and ruled for 3000 years.

Pulitzer Prize-Winning Writer Charles Krauthammer...
Israel is the very embodiment of Jewish continuity: It is the only nation on earth that inhabits the same land, bears the same name, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did 3,000 years ago. You dig the soil and you find pottery from Davidic times, coins from Bar Kokhba, and 2,000-year-old scrolls written in a script remarkably like the one that today advertises ice cream at the corner candy store.

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The interaction of Jewish history and Western civilization successively assumed different forms. In the Biblical and Ancient periods, Israel was an integral part of the Near Eastern and classical world, which gave birth to Western civilization. It shared the traditions of ancient Mesopotamia and the rest of that world with regard to it’s own beginning; it benefited from the decline of Egypt and the other great Near Eastern empires to emerge as a nation in it’s own right; it asserted it’s claim to the divinely promised Land of Israel...
PBS - Heritage

University of Chicago Oriental Institute---Empires in the Fertile Crescent: : Israel, Ancient Assyria, and Anatolia
Visitors will get a rare look at one of the most important geographic regions in the ancient Near East beginning January 29 with the opening of "Empires in the Fertile Crescent: Ancient Assyria, Anatolia and Israel," the newest galleries at the Museum of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago.

The galleries showcase artifacts that illustrate the power of these ancient civilizations, including sculptural representations of tributes demanded by kings of ancient Assyria, and some sources of continual fascination, such as a fragment of the Dead Sea Scrolls--one of the few examples in the United States.

"Visitors begin in Assyria, move across Anatolia and down the Mediterranean coast to the land of ancient Israel. The galleries also trace the conquests of the Assyrian empire across the Middle East and follow their trail to Israel."

The Israelites, who emerged as the dominant people of that region in about 975 B.C. are documented by many objects of daily life, a large stamp engraved with a biblical text and an ossuary (box for bones) inscribed in Hebrew.
Probably the most spectacular portion of the Megiddo gallery, however, is the Megiddo ivories. These exquisitely carved pieces of elephant tusks were inlays in furniture, and a particularly large piece was made into a game board.

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The first major North American exhibition dedicated to the archaeology of ancient Israel and neighboring lands, "Canaan and Ancient Israel" features more than 350 rare artifacts from about 3,000 to 586 B.C.E., excavated by University of Pennsylvania Museum archaeologists in Israel,
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This Article provides an overview of the land regimes that the peoples of Mesopotamia, Egypt, and Israel created by law and custom between 3000 B.C. and 500 B.C

A look at land regimes in the earliest periods of human history can illuminate debate over the extent to which human institutions can be expected to vary from time to time and place to place.
"Ancient Land Law: Mesopotamia, Egypt, Israel" by Robert C. Ellickson and Charles DiA. Thorland

Yale University Press: Education in Ancient Israel
In this groundbreaking new book, distinguished biblical scholar James L. Crenshaw investigates both the pragmatic hows and the philosophical whys of education in ancient Israel and its surroundings. Asking questions as basic as "Who were the teachers and students and from what segment of Israelite society did they come?" and "How did instructors interest young people in the things they had to say?" Crenshaw explores the institutions and practices of education in ancient Israel. The results are often surprising and more complicated than one would expect.
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Yale University Press: The Archaeology of Ancient Israel
In this lavishly illustrated book some of Israel's foremost archaeologists present a thorough, up-to-date, and readily accessible survey of early life in the land of the Bible, from the Neolithic era (eighth millennium B.C.E.) to the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. It will be a delightful and informative resource for anyone who has ever wanted to know more about the religious, scientific, or historical background of the region.
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Resistance to occupation

Puta, when will your shithole spain stop oppressing the Basques?

Basques, The Oppressed People We Forgot About http://current.com/community/89619896_basques-the-oppressed-people-we-forgot-about.htm
The region known as Basque country encompasses a relatively small plot of land on the Spanish French border. The Basques are a people that, from the beginning of recorded history have been independent of Spanish or French rule. That is obviously no longer the case and has not been for a few centuries as the Spanish Republic has eroded their once sacred and all encompassing Fueros, or traditional laws. In the past, the fiercely independent Basques were kept under control bordering governments with the promise of self rule. After the Spanish Civil War that was more or less demolished.

Now the Basque language is eroding and it's culture is dying. In retaliation some Basques have resorted to violence primarily from a group of Basque ultranationalists called Euskadi Ta Askatasuna or ETA. This movement has been counter productive to the Basque cause and is recognized by the EU, US, and Britain as a terrorist organization. Many Basque leaders have been banned from running for public office due to accusations that they are associated with the extremist group.

The Basque struggle is very much a liberal one and a valid one. It is sad that a small number of Basques have resorted to violence. But their story is related to all oppressed people around the world. Under the guise of "anti-terror" Spain has stripped many Basque leaders of position and authority and even imprisoned people for voicing views. Spain has even silenced a major Basque newspaper Egunkaria. Even more alarming is evidence that Egunkaria staffers were tortured.

Spain seems to be enacting systematic conquering of the Basque people, not trying to make peace with them.
http://current.com/community/89619896_basques-the-oppressed-people-we-forgot-about.htm
 
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Resistance to occupation

Puta, when will your shithole spain stop oppressing the Basques?

Basques, The Oppressed People We Forgot About
The region known as Basque country encompasses a relatively small plot of land on the Spanish French border. The Basques are a people that, from the beginning of recorded history have been independent of Spanish or French rule. That is obviously no longer the case and has not been for a few centuries as the Spanish Republic has eroded their once sacred and all encompassing Fueros, or traditional laws. In the past, the fiercely independent Basques were kept under control bordering governments with the promise of self rule. After the Spanish Civil War that was more or less demolished.

Now the Basque language is eroding and it's culture is dying. In retaliation some Basques have resorted to violence primarily from a group of Basque ultranationalists called Euskadi Ta Askatasuna or ETA. This movement has been counter productive to the Basque cause and is recognized by the EU, US, and Britain as a terrorist organization. Many Basque leaders have been banned from running for public office due to accusations that they are associated with the extremist group.

The Basque struggle is very much a liberal one and a valid one. It is sad that a small number of Basques have resorted to violence. But their story is related to all oppressed people around the world. Under the guise of "anti-terror" Spain has stripped many Basque leaders of position and authority and even imprisoned people for voicing views. Spain has even silenced a major Basque newspaper Egunkaria. Even more alarming is evidence that Egunkaria staffers were tortured.

Spain seems to be enacting systematic conquering of the Basque people, not trying to make peace with them.
Basques, the oppressed people we forgot about. // Current TV

Puta, no love from you for the Basques oppressed by your spain?

Basque oppression stepped up. State oppression by both France and Spain continues while UN Human Rights Committee raises concerns.
Basque oppression stepped up - Scottish Socialist Voice

Puta, did you disappear so you can oppress the Basques?
 
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Here's the clincher voiced by an israeli General:
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
Brigadier General Alon said not enough had been done to tackle Jewish extremism referring to price tag attacks as "terror".

"These acts not only should be condemned for their folly and wrongdoing but we should also have done more to prevent them and to arrest the perpetrators," he said in his outgoing speech.

how many threads have you done about atrocities committed against israelis.

i'm not big on the settlements, but if they really wanted them to go away, they'd make a deal. no other country on the planet unilaterally gives in to people who lob missiles at them.

i'll be looking for your threads pointing out what the hamas and hezbollah terrorists do.
 
It's a battle Dot Com. Two sides fight this battle and you sound like you just want the Jews to move back and await an attack. Oh, and give their protection away as well.

:)
 
No love from the BBC for the millions who died and other victims of atrocities under the "settlers" of the British Empire...

Atrocities Under The British Empire http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2005/dec/27/eu.turkey

Famines killed up to 30 million Indians, murdered by British state policy. When an El Niño drought destituted the farmers of the Deccan plateau in 1876 there was a net surplus of rice and wheat in India. But the viceroy, Lord Lytton, insisted that nothing should prevent its export to England. In 1877 and 1878, at the height of the famine, grain merchants exported a record 6.4m hundredweight of wheat. As the peasants began to starve, officials were ordered "to discourage relief works in every possible way". The Anti-Charitable Contributions Act of 1877 prohibited "at the pain of imprisonment private relief donations that potentially interfered with the market fixing of grain prices". The only relief permitted in most districts was hard labour, from which anyone in an advanced state of starvation was turned away. In the labour camps, the workers were given less food than inmates of Buchenwald. In 1877, monthly mortality in the camps equated to an annual death rate of 94%.

As millions died, the imperial government launched "a militarised campaign to collect the tax arrears accumulated during the drought". The money, which ruined those who might otherwise have survived the famine, was used by Lytton to fund his war in Afghanistan. Even in places that had produced a crop surplus, the government's export policies, like Stalin's in Ukraine, manufactured hunger. In the north-western provinces, Oud and the Punjab, which had brought in record harvests in the preceeding three years, at least 1.25m died.

Three recent books - Britain's Gulag by Caroline Elkins, Histories of the Hanged by David Anderson, and Web of Deceit by Mark Curtis - show how white settlers and British troops suppressed the Mau Mau revolt in Kenya in the 1950s. Thrown off their best land and deprived of political rights, the Kikuyu started to organise - some of them violently - against colonial rule. The British responded by driving up to 320,000 of them into concentration camps. Most of the remainder - more than a million - were held in "enclosed villages". Prisoners were questioned with the help of "slicing off ears, boring holes in eardrums, flogging until death, pouring paraffin over suspects who were then set alight, and burning eardrums with lit cigarettes". British soldiers used a "metal castrating instrument" to cut off testicles and fingers. "By the time I cut his balls off," one settler boasted, "he had no ears, and his eyeball, the right one, I think, was hanging out of its socket." The soldiers were told they could shoot anyone they liked "provided they were black". Elkins's evidence suggests that more than 100,000 Kikuyu were either killed or died of disease and starvation in the camps. David Anderson documents the hanging of 1,090 suspected rebels: far more than the French executed in Algeria. Thousands more were summarily executed by soldiers, who claimed they had "failed to halt" when challenged.

These are just two examples of at least 20 such atrocities overseen and organised by the British government or British colonial settlers; they include, for example, the Tasmanian genocide, the use of collective punishment in Malaya, the bombing of villages in Oman, the dirty war in North Yemen, the evacuation of Diego Garcia. Some of them might trigger a vague, brainstem memory in a few thousand readers, but most people would have no idea what I'm talking about. Max Hastings, on the opposite page, laments our "relative lack of interest" in Stalin and Mao's crimes. But at least we are aware that they happened.

In the Express we can read the historian Andrew Roberts arguing that for "the vast majority of its half-millennium-long history, the British empire was an exemplary force for good ... the British gave up their empire largely without bloodshed, after having tried to educate their successor governments in the ways of democracy and representative institutions" (presumably by locking up their future leaders). In the Sunday Telegraph, he insists that "the British empire delivered astonishing growth rates, at least in those places fortunate enough to be coloured pink on the globe". (Compare this to Mike Davis's central finding, that "there was no increase in India's per capita income from 1757 to 1947", or to Prasannan Parthasarathi's demonstration that "South Indian labourers had higher earnings than their British counterparts in the 18th century and lived lives of greater financial security.") In the Daily Telegraph, John Keegan asserts that "the empire became in its last years highly benevolent and moralistic". The Victorians "set out to bring civilisation and good government to their colonies and to leave when they were no longer welcome. In almost every country, once coloured red on the map, they stuck to their resolve".

There is one, rightly sacred Holocaust in European history. All the others can be denied, ignored, or belittled. As Mark Curtis points out, the dominant system of thought in Britain "promotes one key concept that underpins everything else - the idea of Britain's basic benevolence ... Criticism of foreign policies is certainly possible, and normal, but within narrow limits which show 'exceptions' to, or 'mistakes' in, promoting the rule of basic benevolence". This idea, I fear, is the true "sense of British cultural identity" whose alleged loss Max laments today. No judge or censor is required to enforce it. The men who own the papers simply commission the stories they want to read.

Turkey's accession to the European Union, now jeopardised by the trial of Orhan Pamuk, requires not that it comes to terms with its atrocities; only that it permits its writers to rage impotently against them. If the government wants the genocide of the Armenians to be forgotten, it should drop its censorship laws and let people say what they want. It needs only allow Richard Desmond and the Barclay brothers to buy up the country's newspapers, and the past will never trouble it again.

George Monbiot: The Turks haven't learned the British way of denying past atrocities | Books | The Guardian
 
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