Battery Fad wont save the Planet

[Manonthestreet]

unless of course an oppressive carbon tax is added. Tesla thanks you for your rubeness.
Under current policies, residential batteries increase emissions in most cases
Another year, another reason to take the promises of residential home batteries with a grain of salt.



This month, a group of researchers from the University of California San Diego (UCSD) published a paper in Environmental Science and Technology reporting that there are very few cases in which operating a residential home battery reduces overall emissions—assuming that households are economically rational and trying to minimize costs.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

unless of course an oppressive carbon tax is added. Tesla thanks you for your rubeness.
Under current policies, residential batteries increase emissions in most cases
Another year, another reason to take the promises of residential home batteries with a grain of salt.



This month, a group of researchers from the University of California San Diego (UCSD) published a paper in Environmental Science and Technology reporting that there are very few cases in which operating a residential home battery reduces overall emissions—assuming that households are economically rational and trying to minimize costs.

No one said it would.

It's one of many measures that can be taken to address climate change.

 

[Oddball]

unless of course an oppressive carbon tax is added. Tesla thanks you for your rubeness.
Under current policies, residential batteries increase emissions in most cases
Another year, another reason to take the promises of residential home batteries with a grain of salt.



This month, a group of researchers from the University of California San Diego (UCSD) published a paper in Environmental Science and Technology reporting that there are very few cases in which operating a residential home battery reduces overall emissions—assuming that households are economically rational and trying to minimize costs.

No one said it would.

It's one of many measures that can be taken to address climate change.

And create a massive toxic waste disposal problem in the process.....A foreseeable consequence that enviro-crackpots like you blithely ignore.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Not to mention "out-gassing". One side effect of running an electric charge through water is separation of oxygen and hydrogen, among other possibilities. Oxygen is good, but large accumulations of hydrogen can be...harmful.
Health Concerns with Batteries - Battery University

 

[Manonthestreet]

unless of course an oppressive carbon tax is added. Tesla thanks you for your rubeness.
Under current policies, residential batteries increase emissions in most cases
Another year, another reason to take the promises of residential home batteries with a grain of salt.



This month, a group of researchers from the University of California San Diego (UCSD) published a paper in Environmental Science and Technology reporting that there are very few cases in which operating a residential home battery reduces overall emissions—assuming that households are economically rational and trying to minimize costs.

No one said it would.

It's one of many measures that can be taken to address climate change.

Which it doesn't do...….comprende

 

[Crick]

Lithium ion batteries do NOT emit greenhouse gases in operation. They do produce toxic gases if they catch on fire, but not if they do not. Deniers have also charged that their production produces large amounts of GHGs. This is a bullshit claim based on the assumption that they will be produced in locations that use predominantly fossil fuel energy. It has NOTHING to do with the specific processes involved in the production of lithium ion batteries.

 

[skookerasbil]

unless of course an oppressive carbon tax is added. Tesla thanks you for your rubeness.
Under current policies, residential batteries increase emissions in most cases
Another year, another reason to take the promises of residential home batteries with a grain of salt.



This month, a group of researchers from the University of California San Diego (UCSD) published a paper in Environmental Science and Technology reporting that there are very few cases in which operating a residential home battery reduces overall emissions—assuming that households are economically rational and trying to minimize costs.

No one said it would.

It's one of many measures that can be taken to address climate change.

Define "address" please. You dummies are always fond of throwing billions of other peoples money at good intentions.

Ghey

Thankfully, most folks dont see it that way.

 

[Oddball]

Lithium ion batteries do NOT emit greenhouse gases in operation. They do produce toxic gases if they catch on fire, but not if they do not. Deniers have also charged that their production produces large amounts of GHGs. This is a bullshit claim based on the assumption that they will be produced in locations that use predominantly fossil fuel energy. It has NOTHING to do with the specific processes involved in the production of lithium ion batteries.

While lithium mining is an environmental disaster and spent batteries are a toxic waste nightmare.

But whatever environmental travesties you're willing to gloss over, in favor of holding fast to your CO2 cult fundamentalism.

 

[skookerasbil]

Lithium ion batteries do NOT emit greenhouse gases in operation. They do produce toxic gases if they catch on fire, but not if they do not. Deniers have also charged that their production produces large amounts of GHGs. This is a bullshit claim based on the assumption that they will be produced in locations that use predominantly fossil fuel energy. It has NOTHING to do with the specific processes involved in the production of lithium ion batteries.

s0n.....how many decades is it going to takes you to realize you have been bamboozled into believing in a ruse that is making the non-sheep very wealthy. Renewable energy is fringe s0n....has been for decades....will be decades from now. You'll be in your box and wind/solar will still be providing only 10% of our electricity.....yuk....yuk!

 

[Manonthestreet]

Lithium ion batteries do NOT emit greenhouse gases in operation. They do produce toxic gases if they catch on fire, but not if they do not. Deniers have also charged that their production produces large amounts of GHGs. This is a bullshit claim based on the assumption that they will be produced in locations that use predominantly fossil fuel energy. It has NOTHING to do with the specific processes involved in the production of lithium ion batteries.

Doubt ARS Tech is a so called "denier" site

 

[Natural Citizen]

The US federal govwrnment is the worst polluter on the planet. They have more buildings than everyone else, more carbon polluting vehicles than everyone else, etc. Look it up.

So the logical solution to saving the planet is less government. Not more government.

Duh.

 

[Natural Citizen]

With regard to batteries I noticed that after I switched from my Samsung Galaxy to an iphone, the iphone battery dois half way through the day whereas the one in the Samsung lasted for days.

 

[Crick]

Lithium ion batteries do NOT emit greenhouse gases in operation. They do produce toxic gases if they catch on fire, but not if they do not. Deniers have also charged that their production produces large amounts of GHGs. This is a bullshit claim based on the assumption that they will be produced in locations that use predominantly fossil fuel energy. It has NOTHING to do with the specific processes involved in the production of lithium ion batteries.

While lithium mining is an environmental disaster and spent batteries are a toxic waste nightmare.

But whatever environmental travesties you're willing to gloss over, in favor of holding fast to your CO2 cult fundamentalism.

Given the finite and relatively limited amount of lithium on the planet, recycling Li-Po batteries would be a good idea. Do not throw them in the trash.

 

[fncceo]

But it makes me feel so superior...

 

[sparky]

You dummies are always fond of throwing billions of other peoples money at good intentions.

Loose change rings, are you listening,
Thrown about, Franklins glistening
A beautiful sight, We're happy tonight.
Workin' for the subsidized plan

Gone away unemployment , PV cells for deployment
We'll string 'em along… With 'lectric jargon
Saving the whole planet with the plan


In the meadow we can build a windmill
Debut the green machine in your town
When the nimbys say it’s gotta go man
We’ll all be paid and not be found

Later on, we’ll conspire....As they set it on fire
To shill unafraid, the sales we made
Workin’ out the global weather plan

w/apologies to all sants's helpers

~S~