Bat-Crazy Jefferson, Nullification, and the Supreme Court

[Kevin_Kennedy]

as per usual you miss the point. principles do not exist in a vacuum in real life. what good is a principle that kills that which it seeks to protect?

Principles don't kill people. People kill people to try to prove that their principles are "right."

the Confederate Insurrection.

thank you

The Confederate states seceding didn't kill anyone. The Confederate states preserving their right to act as a sovereign nation didn't even kill anyone. The Lincoln administration denying the right of secession didn't kill anyone. It was the actual invasion that did it.

 

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All the New England states nullified the embargo, along with Delaware.

and the federal bench was on their side? so it would not be nullification as we are discussing it -- opposition to federal power and disagreement over who gets to decide constitutional questions? the states you mention were using federal court rulings? they were not going against the federal government -- the bench.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

So the Acts were not ruled unconstitutional? The constitutionality of the Acts are a matter of opinion -- outside of a legal decision?

No, they were not ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. They were, however, ruled unconstitutional by the states of Virginia and Kentucky.

and?

No federal rule.

And? The states nullified the acts. No federal rule on nullification, either.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

All the New England states nullified the embargo, along with Delaware.

and the federal bench was on their side? so it would not be nullification as we are discussing it -- opposition to federal power and disagreement over who gets to decide constitutional questions? the states you mention were using federal court rulings? they were not going against the federal government -- the bench.

If all they were doing was following what the "bench" said, then nullifying those laws wouldn't have been necessary in the first place.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

kevin I'm tired

I will catch you on the rebound.

ltr
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re: pick this one up in the next week