I worked myself into a hole at lunch discussing tax theory. My point on government waste was lost to the following theory: Any money the government takes in is obviously spent, usually in our own economy. Republicans and Democrats have run deficits since WWII. Obviously infrastructure is an investment. We need sewage and roads. Let's take a look at some "bad" cases though. Terrible but we still don't loose anything If the government spends a billion tax dollars building an space ship that explodes on takeoff is it a total loss? The ship was. But, that billion dollars was spent with Boeing, Lockheed, their subcontractors, their workers, whoever builds that stuff. The corporation and their workers are going to spend that money again. Total loss scenario: of government spending I can think of can be foreign aid spent the wrong way. All the dollars spent with the Marshall Plan rebuilding countries against communism left the U.S. economy. What did we get for it? Maybe peace if it was well spent. Aid for Lybia? I suppose I can imagine a return if it makes them hate us less. Aid for the Mujahideen in their war against the Russians, maybe, maybe not well spent. Ok, so what I need are examples of tax money going to something that doesn't recirculate in our economy. My friend brought up a study of pig sex in Iowa or something like that. Darn it if we didn't figure that money wasn't even wasted because professors at whatever University won the contract. We kept thinking the worst thing for America was when them Boeing employees bought "made in China" DVD players or one jokester said Chinese range finding equipment for hunting.