Basic Facts on Israel Debunking One of the Great Lies About Israel

[GHook93]

You heard if from Helen the Whore and it will be repeated by antisemites later in their thread. Very ignorant antisemites like PF Tinmore will say there were no Israeli nation in ancient times. That they Romans didn't hit the country and displace the people. Other less ignorant, but fully ignorant antisemites will say they Jews were either killed or exciled from Israel after the 2nd great Jewish revolt.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Even in the 1800s the Jews were the majority in Jerusalem (Esp East Jerusalem), Tel Aviv was founded in the 1800s and Jewish communities were all over Israel. During the 1800s Israel was sparsely populated. The so called Palestinians of today mostly migrated to the area when the Jews were coming back to their home land during the 1800s and mostly during the British White Paper days.

These are facts that only ignorant antisemites will overlook!

Articles: Israel: Some Basic Facts
The charge is this:

After the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD, the Jews lost their country and forfeited any right to it by going into exile for nearly 2,000 years.

The answer:
Indeed, the destruction of Jerusalem ended the Jewish state with appalling loss of life. But the Jews maintained a continuous presence in their homeland, and it is this continuity which gives them an absolute, inalienable right of self-determination, historically, spiritually, and politically, in the reconstituted Jewish state.

In AD 132, the charismatic Jewish hero Simon Bar Kochba rallied his countrymen against continued Roman persecution. Another war of liberation -- the second Jewish uprising -- was launched against Rome. Bar Kochba's Jewish warriors freed large areas of the homeland from the Roman yoke, just as Jewish fighters had similarly freed the homeland from Greco-Syrian occupation in 165 BC, liberating Jerusalem and the Holy Temple and giving the world the festival of lights, Hanukah, which every year falls on the 25th day of the Hebrew month of Kislev.

Bar Kochba (known as Son of the Star) also liberated Jerusalem, but the Roman emperor, Hadrian, who wanted to build a giant temple to the god Jupiter in place of the Holy Temple, sent an army of 35,000 soldiers against the Jewish warriors. After a desperate three-year struggle, the Jewish resistance ended at the fortress of Betar. It is estimated that in the ensuing Roman repression, some 500,000 Jews were either killed or sent into slavery throughout the Empire.

Even after this second catastrophe, the Jews nevertheless remained an absolute majority in the land up until the 5th century AD, and they were the single most important community up until the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

In 1099, the Crusaders arrived and massacred not only Jews, but also Muslims. On July 15, the entire Jewish population of Jerusalem was forced into the chief synagogue, and the building was set on fire. The Crusaders marched around it, singing, "Christ, we adore thee" in a diabolical accompaniment to the screams of the men, women, and children burning alive.

In the ensuing centuries, during which the land was invaded by successive alien conquerors, the Jews maintained themselves in whatever numbers they could sustain. In fact, they refounded the holy Jewish city of Tiberius in Galilee three separate times. In the 16th century, some 15,000 Jews lived in another holy Jewish city, Safed, in Upper Galilee -- a center of Jewish mysticism known as Kabbalah.

Throughout the dark centuries of exile, Jewish pilgrims and refugees returned again and again to restore the ancestral Jewish homeland. Jewish prayers and festivals recited and celebrated in synagogues throughout the Diaspora, then as now, are based in large part upon the agricultural cycle of ancient Israel attesting yet again to the inextricable spiritual and aboriginal links with the ancestral homeland.

In the 1850s, the first Jewish agricultural villages were re-established in what was then largely barren and empty territory under Turkish Ottoman occupation. By 1844, the Jews constituted the largest community in the eternal Jewish capital, Jerusalem.

In that year, according to the Prussian Consul, there were 7,120 Jews, 5,000 Muslims, and 3,390 Christians in Jerusalem. Even before the State of Israel was re-established in 1948, Jerusalem was primarily a Jewish city, with 100,000 Jews out of a total population of 165,000. Many of the non-Jews were not Arabs at all, but Europeans, Americans, Ethiopians, and other Christians.

The assertion that Jewish ties to the ancestral homeland came to an end in 70 AD is utterly without foundation. Those Jewish ties have remained unbroken since Abraham, the first Jew, came to Hebron, the other Jewish holy city, and purchased a burial plot for his wife Sarah, his son Isaac, his grandson Jacob, and some of their wives. These are the Patriarchs and Matriarchs of the Jewish people, who are buried in Hebron.

The truth, then, is that Jews always maintained a continuous presence in their own land despite the depredations of a succession of alien occupiers. There is an absolute continuity between the Israel of the Bible and the Israel of today.

It is the same land, the same people, the same language, the same God, the same prophets, the same holy Book. There has never been a time in the last 35 centuries when there haven't been Jews living in Israel -- sometimes as a sovereign nation, sometimes as isolated enclaves occupied by an enemy power.

And when Jews have been few in number inside Israel itself, they have nevertheless continued to pray for its welfare daily, to pray daily for their return to nationhood, to recount the biblical promises, and to pray for a quick return.

This is continuity par excellence. Why is this important? Because part of the Big Lie of today is to deny it and to consider the Jews illegitimate newcomers to the land who can legitimately be pushed right back out. Yet the continuity of the Jewish people in Israel is a basic fact.

 

[JStone]

Good information, but, you do realize that out of the 5 other posters here, 4 are mentally ill and at least one is an irish drunk named douger?

 

[Swagger]

Good information, but, you do realize that out of the 5 other posters here, 4 are mentally ill and at least one is an irish drunk named douger?

Another one's a paid hasbarat troll (by his own admission) called JStone.

 

[JStone]

Good information, but, you do realize that out of the 5 other posters here, 4 are mentally ill and at least one is an irish drunk named douger?

Another one's a paid hasbarat troll (by his own admission) called JStone.

You're allowed to be dumb. It's what you do best

Quran 5:20-21...

Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

Allah Is a Zionist: The Quranic argument for Jewish sovereignty in the land of Israel
By Sheikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi, Secretary General of the Italian Muslim Assembly

Jewish sovereignty in Jerusalem. In August 2002, the Yasser Arafat-appointed “mufti of Jerusalem and the Holy Land,” Ikrima Sabri, told the Western media that “there is not even the smallest indication of the existence of a Jewish temple in Jerusalem in the past. In the whole city, there is not even a single stone indicating Jewish history.” By saying this, he confirmed what Arafat had already said to the London-based Arabic paper al-Hayat and reportedly repeated to Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak at Camp David: “Archaeologists have not found a single stone proving that the Temple of Solomon was there because historically the Temple was not in Palestine.”

In making such statements, Sabri and Arafat not only blatantly denied history, archeology, and the teachings of the Bible, but they also denied the words of the Quran. From the time of the Revelation of the Noble Quran until recently, all Muslims unanimously accepted that the Haram as-Sharif, or Holy Esplanade, on which the Dome of the Rock today stands is the same place where Solomon’s and Zorobabel’s Temples once stood. As a matter of fact, Haram as-Sharif, the Sacred Area of Temple Mount, includes a place called Solomon’s Standpoint, or Maqam Sulayman—according to the Muslim tradition, Solomon used to sit there and supplicate while Hiram’s masons were engaged in building the Temple. From that same place the Muslim tradition says that Solomon prayed to dedicate the House once it was completed and to intercede for those who will approach it for worshipping.

Accepting that Solomon’s Temple was in Jerusalem is compulsory for every Muslim believer, because that is what the Quran and the Islamic oral tradition, called the Sunnah, teach.

Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel: The Biblical notion that God granted the land of Canaan to the Children of Israel is confirmed by the Quran. In the Surah of Jonah, verse 93, we read: We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best.

In Surah al-Ahraf (of the Barrier), verse 137, we read: We made a people considered weak inheritors of the Land in both Eastern and Western side [of the Jordan river] whereon we sent down Our blessings. The fair promise of thy Lord was fulfilled for the Children of Israel, because they had patience and constancy, and We levelled to the ground the great works and fine buildings which Pharaoh and his people erected.

Surah al Maidah (the Table), verse 21, is the only passage in which the Holy Land is mentioned by that title (al-Ard al-Muqaddas). It refers to the words Moses spoke to the descendants of Isaac: Remember Moses said To his people: ‘O my People, call in remembrance the favor of God unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave You what He had not given To any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter The Holy Land which God hath written for you, and turn not back ignominiously [to this heritage of yours], for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel was never abolished: Moreover, the Quran explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment when it says in the Surah of the Children of Israel, verse 104: And thereafter We [God] said to the Children of Israel: ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.’

Therefore, from an Islamic point of view, Israel is the legitimate owner of the land God deeded to her and whose borders were defined by Abraham in Genesis. All recent claims according to which the “assignment of the Land of Israel to the Jewish people was withdrawn or abrogated” are bereft of scriptural or traditional evidence. The Quran mentions the territory that God assigned to the Jewish people, but neither it nor the traditional Islamic sources mention a supposed withdrawal.
Allah Is a Zionist - by Sheikh Abdul Hadi Palazzi - Tablet Magazine – A New Read on Jewish Life

 

[Swagger]

JStone, I'm just reiterating what you yourself have written. I know that you're deeply frustrated over your alterior motives being exposed, but you really only have yourself to blame.

You are severely mentally ill

So says the psychotic Jewish Hasbarat.

The highly educated, successful hasbarat. You're just uneducated, unemployed trailer trash

Post #92 (page #7) on: Robbing The Poor to Pay Israel.

 

[JStone]

JStone, I'm just reiterating what you yourself have written. I know that you're deeply frustrated over your alterior motives being exposed, but you really only have yourself to blame.

So says the psychotic Jewish Hasbarat.

The highly educated, successful hasbarat. You're just uneducated, unemployed trailer trash

Post #92 (page #7) on: Robbing The Poor to Pay Israel.

Your Jew Envy is showing,loser. When can Israel expect a return visit from your bankrupt shithole begging for money?

Lord Mayor of London visits Israel to promote business links
Alderman Michael Bear's visit will promote London as the world's leading centre for finance, legal and business services.

Lord Mayor of London visits Israel to promote business links

 

[Swagger]

Seriously, do you have any idea how many times you've regurgitated that source to distract from facts, however uncomfortable they may be? Assuming you don't share your desk/booth with fellow paid Israeli propagandists, you understand.

 

[Sugarhitman]

I am about to bust the "Jewish Invader" myth wide open soon as I reach my 15th post.

 

[Jos]

JStone, I'm just reiterating what you yourself have written. I know that you're deeply frustrated over your alterior motives being exposed, but you really only have yourself to blame.

The highly educated, successful hasbarat. You're just uneducated, unemployed trailer trash

Post #92 (page #7) on: Robbing The Poor to Pay Israel.

Your Jew Envy is showing,loser. When can Israel expect a return visit from your bankrupt shithole begging for money?

Lord Mayor of London visits Israel to promote business links
Alderman Michael Bear's visit will promote London as the world's leading centre for finance, legal and business services.

Lord Mayor of London visits Israel to promote business links

Just another jew Mooching a free holiday

Jewish businessman Michael Bear is tipped as the new Lord Mayor of London

Bear to be Lord Mayor? | The Jewish Chronicle

 

[JStone]

Seriously, do you have any idea how many times you've regurgitated that source to distract from facts, however uncomfortable they may be? Assuming you don't share your desk/booth with fellow paid Israeli propagandists, you understand.

Sucks to be British, eh, loser? How is life under sharia? I hear the Queen is being fitted for a burqa at Harrods.

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[JStone]

JStone, I'm just reiterating what you yourself have written. I know that you're deeply frustrated over your alterior motives being exposed, but you really only have yourself to blame.



Post #92 (page #7) on: Robbing The Poor to Pay Israel.

Your Jew Envy is showing,loser. When can Israel expect a return visit from your bankrupt shithole begging for money?

Lord Mayor of London visits Israel to promote business links
Alderman Michael Bear's visit will promote London as the world's leading centre for finance, legal and business services.

Lord Mayor of London visits Israel to promote business links

Just another jew Mooching a free holiday

Jewish businessman Michael Bear is tipped as the new Lord Mayor of London

Bear to be Lord Mayor? | The Jewish Chronicle

Not nice to insult your Jewish Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, monkey. Enjoy blowing hitler in hell

Matthew 2 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”

 

[Jos]

From 1948 until the early 1970s, around 900,000 Jews from Arab lands left, fled, or were expelled from various Arab nations.[15][16][17] In the course of Operation Magic Carpet (1949–1950), nearly the entire community of Yemenite Jews (about 49,000) immigrated to Israel. Most of them had never seen an airplane before, but they believed in the Biblical prophecy that according to the Book of Isaiah (40:31), God promised to return the children of Israel to Zion on "wings".

In three and a half years, the Jewish population of Israel had doubled, inflated by nearly 700,000 immigrants, which was one of the causes of the austerity. Huge numbers of Jewish refugees were temporarily settled in "cities of tents" called Ma'abarot. As the residents were gradually absorbed into Israeli society, the Ma'abarot were phased out.

Aliyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JStone]

From 1948 until the early 1970s, around 900,000 Jews from Arab lands left, fled, or were expelled from various Arab nations.[15][16][17] In the course of Operation Magic Carpet (1949–1950), nearly the entire community of Yemenite Jews (about 49,000) immigrated to Israel. Most of them had never seen an airplane before, but they believed in the Biblical prophecy that according to the Book of Isaiah (40:31), God promised to return the children of Israel to Zion on "wings".

In three and a half years, the Jewish population of Israel had doubled, inflated by nearly 700,000 immigrants, which was one of the causes of the austerity. Huge numbers of Jewish refugees were temporarily settled in "cities of tents" called Ma'abarot. As the residents were gradually absorbed into Israeli society, the Ma'abarot were phased out.

Aliyah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia, monkey? You're ignorant even for a monkey

Eminent Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of 10 Books on Jewish and Middle East History and 3 Books on Jerusalem...

In 1210, following the defeat of the Crusaders, groups of Jews began to return Jerusalem. Henceforth, without interruption, and in every decade, individual Jews and groups of Jews reached the city from the Maghreb [north Africa] and elsewhere forming an ever-growing community. Driven out by the Tartar invasion of 1244, they had returned by 1250. Three times a day the Jews repeated in their prayers, "And to Jerusalem Thy city mayest thou return to mercy, and dwell in its midst as Thou hast spoken, and rebuild it soon in our days for evermore

Areas from which some 300 Rabbis travelled to Jerusalem, Acre and Ramla in 1210 AD, to strengthen the Jewish communities weakened by the Crusader massacres and expulsions. Jews are known to have traveled from throughout the region to Jerusalem [after 1267], settling permanently and forming by 1841 the largest single community in Jerusalem.

1000 AD: Jews take part in the defence of Haifa against the Crusades

1099:AD: Jews take part in the defence of Jerusalem against the Crusaders

1211: Several Rabbis from France and England settle here

1267: Maimonides arrives and establishes a synagogue . During the next 500 years, Jerusalem is reinstated as a centre of Jewish learning.

In 1500, there were an estimated 10,000 Jews living in the Safed region

1563: Establishment of a Hebrew printing press, the first printing press on the Asian Continent

By 1880 the Jews formed the majority of the population Jerusalem

During the 17th and 18th centuries, many Jerusalem Jews, scholars and rabbis, travelled from Jerusalem to teach in Jewish communities elsewhere, and also to seek alms and charity for the poorer members of their own community. there was also a regular movement of families, in both directions, between Jerusalem and several towns of the eastern Mediterranean region

Jewish villages in Israel 1855--1914...

Deganya
Jerusalem
Safed
Tiberias
Kinneret
Merhavya
Zikhron Yacov
Ekron
Mikveh Israel
Rishon le-Zion
Ben Shemen
Rehovot
Hulda
Kastinia
Artuf
Hebron
Ruhama
Beer-Toviya
Hartuv
Gedera
Kfar Uriya
Motza
Nes Ziona
Beer Yaakov
Nahalat Yehuda
Mahane Yehuda
Ein Ganim
Petah Tikvah
Kfar Sava
Kfar Mahal
Hadera
Gan Shmuel
Nahliel
Karkur
Givat Ada
Bat Shelomo
Tantura
Shefeiya
Yavneel
Beit Gan
Kfar Tova
Poriya
Sejera
Menahemya
Beitanya
Mizpa
Kfar Hittim
Bnei Yehuda
Mishmar Hayarden
Ayelet Hashashar
Ein Zeitim
Metulla