Barak Obama on Religion and politics

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    do i have to waste 40 minutes of my life for this??

    why don't you summarize for those of us that don't have that kind of time to waste or find this in print and only post the salient points you want to highlight?
     
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    no thanks.

    I didn't sign up for political leash duty this month.
     
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    Wait? When ever a Republican talks at a church we hear screams of bloddy murder from the Democrats, why is it Obama can spend 40 minutes and no one cares?
     
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    I'll just go out on a limb here, and say it probably has something to do with the fact that the Republican Party has been using the church to win elections for a couple decades now.
     
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    Obama is a black man. Nobody is going to criticize him for what he says, does, eats, licks, shits, looks at, sings to, holds, hits or sucks up his nose.
     
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    While I am not certain, I am pretty sure that he was addressing a convocation or convention of Jim Wallis' "Call to Renewal", and not at a "church service" per se.

    I would guess that you did not take the time to watch all forty minutes of Obama's address to that organization.... I did.

    If you had, you might have gained a new appreciation and understanding of the man that may very well be your next president....but we both know that gaining such insight is really nothing you care very much about... preferring instead to post sniping little comments like this one.

    I recommend you read "God's Politics" by Rev. Wallis.... and I recommend you watch Obama's speech. I am certain both would do you a world of good and you'd be glad you had after you had.
     
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    Thank you for posting this. It was great!:clap2:
     
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    So can I spend the next 4 years , if Obama wins, telling everyone he "stole" the election? Can I claim what ever he says is a lie cause I don't like it? Can I call him ignorant like you all call Bush? Can I claim any Budget he proposes is the worst thing that ever happened to this country?

    Ohh wait, I wouldn't do that cause I am not a brain damaged liberal that has lost my mind cause "my guy" didn't win.

    Ohh and who ever is President next year we get to blame for any economic problems we have right?
     
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    you can, and no doubt will, do anything you want.

    The fact is: Unlike Bush, Barack Obama IS extremely intelligent, curious, engaged, and eloquent.

    And you should know full well the rules of political accountability for the economy - your side wrote them:

    if good happens during a democratic president, it is either due to the republicans in congress or the business cycle... and when something good happens during a republican administration, it is presidential leadership that needs to be credited. Conversely, when something bad happens during the republican's tenure, it is merely the business cycle running its course, and during a democrat's time....lousy tax and spend failed democratic social engineering programs. At least that what the GOP has been selling for fifty years!

    but I take it, you are admitting that you really have no interest in listening to Obama's speech about government and religion OR in reading Jim Wallis' book?
     

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