Barak Hussein Breaks Up Alliances And Coddles Enemies

[rdean]

Stand fast Israel, don't let the the Kenyan Commie bluff you. You have lots of support behind you here in the USA.

Oh, Kenyan, I left one out. From a previous post:

Would Republicans support Obama during a time of war? I suspect it would be difficult to support a racist, terrorist, child molester, Marxist, Kenyan, watermelon eating, totalitarian, Socialist, drug addicted, gay, Nazi, black, Muslim, Communist, illegal Alien who wants to kill your grandmother and is the "anti Christ".

Did I finally get them all?

 

[Big Bad Bob]

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

Define 'always'.

He's only been POTUS for 14 months. Before that.... hmmmm.... how many DAYS was he in the Senate?

And Define "Friend"

 

[GHook93]

The thread was more than Israel, so try not to make it just about Israel, since the debate will go back to good Fuck Israel or Bad we need to back Israel.

HOWEVER, few people would acknowledge that creating a rift btw Britian, France, Germany, South Korea and Colombia is a good thing.

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

Define 'always'.

He's only been POTUS for 14 months. Before that.... hmmmm.... how many DAYS was he in the Senate?

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

Stand fast Israel, don't let the the Kenyan Commie bluff you. You have lots of support behind you here in the USA.

 

[hyakku]

Heh, ironic that so many people say we hate Israel:

U.S., Israel in pact for Lockheed planes | Reuters New Aircraft deal for C-130J's announced a few days ago

U.S. approves sale to Israel of 25 F-35 fighter jets - Haaretz - Israel News The F35 deal that was ratified by Obama

US aid for Israel tied to arms sales: 75% of the aid must be used to buy military material made in the US

Oh what's that? He signed one of the BIGGEST aid packages in american history to Israel as well?

These are just a small amount of those deals reported in American media. If you peruse the DoD and CIA sites you'll see that we've also provided them with additional CT funding, and also began talks for new defense systems as well.

The American - Israeli relationship is going nowhere, except to those that don't know much about Israel or America .

 

[Big Bad Bob]

Stand fast Israel, don't let the the Kenyan Commie bluff you. You have lots of support behind you here in the USA.

Oh, Kenyan, I left one out. From a previous post:

Would Republicans support Obama during a time of war? I suspect it would be difficult to support a racist, terrorist, child molester, Marxist, Kenyan, watermelon eating, totalitarian, Socialist, drug addicted, gay, Nazi, black, Muslim, Communist, illegal Alien who wants to kill your grandmother and is the "anti Christ".

Did I finally get them all?

Hang on, I'll think of some more.

 

[GHook93]

Let's see. Those Israeli leaders try to embarass the VEEP on his visit.

If they wanted to embarass Joe Hair Plugs, they should have just let him talk! LOL he is master of making an ass of himself!

 

[CMike]

Heh, ironic that so many people say we hate Israel:

U.S., Israel in pact for Lockheed planes | Reuters New Aircraft deal for C-130J's announced a few days ago

U.S. approves sale to Israel of 25 F-35 fighter jets - Haaretz - Israel News The F35 deal that was ratified by Obama

US aid for Israel tied to arms sales: 75% of the aid must be used to buy military material made in the US

Oh what's that? He signed one of the BIGGEST aid packages in american history to Israel as well?

These are just a small amount of those deals reported in American media. If you peruse the DoD and CIA sites you'll see that we've also provided them with additional CT funding, and also began talks for new defense systems as well.

The American - Israeli relationship is going nowhere, except to those that don't know much about Israel or America .

That was the DOD. Obama has been to busy with his partying and screwing up our health care system to care about national security.

Are you aware what Obama did last week to Israel, and how he shunned Netanyahu, when he came to the White House?

You must have been on vacation. I'll bring you up to speed.

What makes Obama different ?

However the democraps now think that Syria committed to peace

Kerry: Syria committed to ME peace

 

[CMike]

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

You must have missed the memo.

Obama has decided that he will actively represent the PA, make ludicrous demands of Israel, and treat Israeli leaders like dirt.

With friends like this who needs enemies.

You barely know what YOU think. Why should we listen to your opining on what the POTUS thinks?......

Let's see. Those Israeli leaders try to embarass the VEEP on his visit. Now exactly who is treating whom like dirt.


Hey, I've an idea!! Why don't all of you whose allegiance to Israel is greater than your allegiance to the US become Israeli citizens. Then you can go there and fight the Pals.

Yeah, I'm sure that Israel built an apartment building in their capital just to spite Biden. Fucking loon

If you are so committed to the PA, who danced and celebrated because america was attacked on 911, why don't you join Hamas? I'm sure Obama would join you.

 

[beowolfe]

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

You must have missed the memo.

Obama has decided that he will actively represent the PA, make ludicrous demands of Israel, and treat Israeli leaders like dirt.

With friends like this who needs enemies.

Do you mean demands like these:

President Bush said yesterday "I don't regret" calling into question the right of Jews to settle in East Jerusalem, a statement that touched off a firestorm in Israel and contributed to the collapse of the coalition government there.

President Clinton proposed that the Jewish suburbs of East Jerusalem come under Israeli sovereignty and the Arab suburbs be ceded to Palestinian sovereignty. Yassir Arafat was actually willing to accept that division, as was Ehud Barak. But today, Jewish settlers are moving aggressively into Arab neighborhoods while Arabs, denied permits to build in their own suburbs, are quietly buying residences in Jewish neighborhoods. If these trends continue, Clinton’s Solomonic solution will become unworkable.



Seems like at least the last three US presidents took the position that Israel should not expand settlements into E. Jerusalem. Bush I probably did too, but I can't find any articles on it.

 

[CMike]

Jerusalem is not a settlement it's the capital of Israel.

Hey, btw what demands did Rev Wright's apprentice make on the PA?

 

[CMike]

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Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the "Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995."

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress makes the following findings:

(1)Each sovereign nation, under international law and custom, may designate its own capital.

(2)Since 1950, the city of Jerusalem has been the capital of the State of Israel.

(3)The city of Jerusalem is the seat of Israel's President, Parliament, and Supreme Court, and the site of numerous government ministries and social and cultural institutions.

(4)The city of Jerusalem is the spiritual center of Judaism, and is also considered a holy city by the members of other religious faiths.

(5)From 1948-1967, Jerusalem was a divided city and Israeli citizens of all faiths as well as Jewish citizens of all states were denied access to holy sites in the area controlled by Jordan.

(6)In 1967, the city of Jerusalem was reunited during the conflict known as the Six Day War.

(7)Since 1967, Jerusalem has been a united city administered by Israel,and persons of all religious faiths have been guaranteed full access to holy sites within the city.

(8)This year marks the 28th consecutive year that Jerusalem has been administered as a unified city in which the rights of all faiths have been respected and protected.

(9)In 1990, the Congress unanimously adopted Senate Concurrent Resolution 106, which declares that the Congress "strongly believes that Jerusalem must remain an undivided city in which the rights of every ethnic and religious group are protected".

(10)In 1992, the United States Senate and House of Representatives unanimously adopted Senate Concurrent Resolution 113 of the One Hundred Second Congress to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem, and reaffirming congressional sentiment that Jerusalem must remain an undivided city.


(11)The September 13, 1993, Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements lays out a timetable for the resolution of "final status" issues, including Jerusalem.

(12)The Agreement on the Gaza Strip and the Jericho Area was signed May 4,1994, beginning the five-year transitional period laid out in the Declaration of Principles.

(13)In March of 1995, 93 members of the United States Senate signed a letter to Secretary of State Warren Christopher encouraging "planning to begin now" for relocation of the United States Embassy to the city of Jerusalem.

(14)In June of 1993, 257 members of the United States House of Representatives signed a letter to the Secretary of State Warren Christopher stating that the relocation of the United States Embassy to Jerusalem "should take place no later than....1999".

(15)The United States maintains its embassy in the functioning capital of every country exceptin the case of our democratic friend and strategic ally, the State of Israel.

(16)The United States conducts official meetings and other business in the city of Jerusalem in de facto recognition of its status as the capital of Israel.

(17)In 1996, the State of Israel will celebrate the 3,000th anniversary of the Jewish presence in Jerusalem since King David's entry.

SEC. 3. TIMETABLE.

(a)Statement of the Policy of the United States.—

(1)Jerusalem should remain an undivided city in which the rights of every ethnic and religious group are protected;

(2)Jerusalem should be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel; and

(3)the United States Embassy in Israel should be established in Jerusalem no later than May 31, 1999.

(b)Opening Determination.—Not more than 50 percent of the funds appropriated to the Department of State for fiscal year 1999 for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" may be obligated until the Secretary of State determines and reports to Congress that the United States Embassy in Jerusalem has officially opened.

SEC. 4. FISCAL YEARS 1996 AND 1997 FUNDING.

(a)Fiscal Year 1996.--Of the funds authorized to be appropriated for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" for the Department of State in fiscal year 1996, not less than $25,000,000 should be made available until expended only for construction and other costs associated with the establishment of the United States Embassy in Israel in the capital of Jerusalem.

(b)Fiscal Year 1997.—Of the funds authorized to be appropriated for "Acquisition and Maintenance of Buildings Abroad" for the Department of State in fiscal year 1997, not less than $75,000,000 should be made available until expended only for construction and other costs associated with the establishment of the United States Embassy in Israel in the capital of Jerusalem.

SEC. 5. REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION.

Not later than 30 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of State shall submit a report to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate detailing the Department of State's plan to implement this Act. Such report shall include—

(1)estimated dates of completion for each phase of the establishment of the United States Embassy, including site identification, land acquisition, architectural, engineering and construction surveys, site preparation, and construction; and

(2)an estimate of the funding necessary to implement this Act, including all costs associated with establishing the United States Embassy in Israel in the capital of Jerusalem.

SEC. 6. SEMI-ANNUAL REPORTS.

At the time of the submission of the President's fiscal year 1997 budget request, and every six months thereafter, the Secretary of State shall report to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate on the progress made toward opening the United States Embassy in Jerusalem.

SEC. 7. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVER.

(a)Waiver Authority.—(1) Beginning on October 1, 1998, the President may suspend the limitation set forth in section 3(b) for a period of six months if he determines and reports to Congress in advance that such suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(2)The President may suspend such limitation for an additional six month period at the end of any period during which the suspension is in effect under this subsection if the President determines and reports to Congress in advance of the additional suspension that the additional suspension is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States.

(3)A report under paragraph (1) or (2)shall include—

(A)a statement of the interests affected by the limitation that the President seeks to suspend; and

(B)a discussion of the manner in which the limitation affects the interests.

(b)Applicability of Waiver to Availability of Funds.—If the President exercises the authority set forth in subsection (a) in a fiscal year, the limitation set forth in section 3(b) shall apply to funds appropriated in the following fiscal year for the purpose set forth in section 3(b)except to the extent that the limitation is suspended in such following fiscal year by reason of the exercise of the authority in subsection (a).

SEC. 8. DEFINITION.

As used in this Act, the term "United States Embassy" means the offices of the United States diplomatic mission and the residence of the United States chief of mission.

 

[CMike]

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[hyakku]

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

You must have missed the memo.

Obama has decided that he will actively represent the PA, make ludicrous demands of Israel, and treat Israeli leaders like dirt.

With friends like this who needs enemies.

Do you mean demands like these:

President Bush said yesterday "I don't regret" calling into question the right of Jews to settle in East Jerusalem, a statement that touched off a firestorm in Israel and contributed to the collapse of the coalition government there.

President Clinton proposed that the Jewish suburbs of East Jerusalem come under Israeli sovereignty and the Arab suburbs be ceded to Palestinian sovereignty. Yassir Arafat was actually willing to accept that division, as was Ehud Barak. But today, Jewish settlers are moving aggressively into Arab neighborhoods while Arabs, denied permits to build in their own suburbs, are quietly buying residences in Jewish neighborhoods. If these trends continue, Clinton’s Solomonic solution will become unworkable.



Seems like at least the last three US presidents took the position that Israel should not expand settlements into E. Jerusalem. Bush I probably did too, but I can't find any articles on it.

You don't need to find links on it, Bush I was the one who STARTED the policy to try to contain Israeli expansion. When you watch the news, note how they often say that tensions haven't been this high in over twenty years. They are referring to the days of George H.W. Bush, who in conversation with rational, salient Foreign policy leaders like Kissinger, recognized that Israeli expansion undermined U.S. security (something they were right about 20 years later). If someone tries to deny that Bush I largely initiated the policies we see today, this is effectively denying history, which even an internet link won't help.

That was the DOD. Obama has been to busy with his partying and screwing up our health care system to care about national security.

Are you aware what Obama did last week to Israel, and how he shunned Netanyahu, when he came to the White House?

You must have been on vacation. I'll bring you up to speed.

What makes Obama different ?

However the democraps now think that Syria committed to peace

Yea, you know even though Obama, as commander in chief, must sign off on those deals. That makes perfect sense.

Were you aware that as Obama shunned Netanyahu, there were deals being finalized the day that occurred and the day after to sell more advanced defense systems, including those aforementioned C-130J's I mentioned?

You can watch his words, I'm going to watch his ACTIONS. Quite frankly I don't even see why you're upset. I'm quite peeved simply because Israeli actions lately aren't something a valuable ally does.

I don't believe that there are any "friends" in this international game. Allies are only allies as long as it benefits their national security, and if they aren't willing to cede any type of their land in order to help aggrandize American security, it's time we start reexamining our relationship with them. America will always be first in my mind, above any nonsensical, imagined relationships, any allegiances, or any institutions. I suspect members of the left will deride me for my unabashed patriotism, while members of the right will certainly see me as an Arab sympathizer.

It makes no difference to me, America's primacy in the international system is what matters, and is Israel, Western Europe or any other nation wants to jepordize that, than we need to take action to send a message that we are and will continue to be world leaders. That doesn't mean dropping bombs or telling allies to fuck off, but it means a reassertion of American primacy in diplomatic institutions that was lost when a good amount of our legitimacy was lost over the past few years.

 

[CMike]

Earth to idiot in previous post, earth to idiot in previous post.

Jerusalem is not a settlement, it's the nation's capital.

Obama made zero demands in the PA.

In fact, he destroyed the peace process, because the PA now is free to make outrageous demands that Israel can't and won't meet.

It's all boils down that Obama's mentor is Rev. Wright.

 

[Samson]

....

It's understandable; Europe is losing much of its clout and attractiveness in the wake of globalization.

While america has been hard hit, our economic and political foundations are strong enough to allow the American society to adapt and continue to play an integral world on the global stage.

As europe begins to feel marginalized, it's only natural that they should feel insecure in their relationship with the U.S., as upcoming global members can present many of the same goods and commodities that the european market can at a cheaper rate......

<snip>

***Hope you don't mind my editorializing the post, but unless you shorten them, no one reads them, and you made some excellent points***

I find it Ironic that the group that would critisize the Obama Administration for branding the USA with "European Style Socialism," is the same group that's bitching about him snubbing European Allies.

Who gives a rat's ass if Europe begins to feel marginalized? I know I don't.

How long has it been....almost 15 years since they couldn't get their shit together enough to put fires out on their own doorstep (Bosnia)?

Shouldn't they at least have gotten their acts together enough not to need to whine for attention? For christssakes....


Ditto for Israel: As long as the USA "enables" them, they will never come to terms with Palestinians

 

[rdean]

Stand fast Israel, don't let the the Kenyan Commie bluff you. You have lots of support behind you here in the USA.

Oh, Kenyan, I left one out. From a previous post:

Would Republicans support Obama during a time of war? I suspect it would be difficult to support a racist, terrorist, child molester, Marxist, Kenyan, watermelon eating, totalitarian, Socialist, drug addicted, gay, Nazi, black, Muslim, Communist, illegal Alien who wants to kill your grandmother and is the "anti Christ".

Did I finally get them all?

Hang on, I'll think of some more.

Still waiting.

 

[hyakku]

....

It's understandable; Europe is losing much of its clout and attractiveness in the wake of globalization.

While america has been hard hit, our economic and political foundations are strong enough to allow the American society to adapt and continue to play an integral world on the global stage.

As europe begins to feel marginalized, it's only natural that they should feel insecure in their relationship with the U.S., as upcoming global members can present many of the same goods and commodities that the european market can at a cheaper rate......

<snip>

***Hope you don't mind my editorializing the post, but unless you shorten them, no one reads them, and you made some excellent points***

I find it Ironic that the group that would critisize the Obama Administration for branding the USA with "European Style Socialism," is the same group that's bitching about him snubbing European Allies.

Who gives a rat's ass if Europe begins to feel marginalized? I know I don't.

How long has it been....almost 15 years since they couldn't get their shit together enough to put fires out on their own doorstep (Bosnia)?

Shouldn't they at least have gotten their acts together enough not to need to whine for attention? For christssakes....


Ditto for Israel: As long as the USA "enables" them, they will never come to terms with Palestinians

Don't mind at all.

The israel situation requires more vetting and discussion I think than the European one. Although the USA certainly acts as Israel's enabler, we do still receive national security benefits. Now the question is, do the benefits outweigh the repercussions? That's a question for another thread though.

I agree on Europe. I'm not quite sure why Americans (especially the American right) has developed some infatuation with Europe as if we were brothers. Newsflash: America was founded BECAUSE we wanted to escape Europe. There never was a "special" relationship, because in international relations no one is friendly. There was just the guise of it because we had similar instiutions, facilities and goals (subjugation of those who refused to conform with the emerging order of the 18th-20th centuries, a cause that can't be debased as it's resulted in most of the advancements of today).

American security however, should always be tantamount to fostering foreign relations. If american interest and security can best be taken care of by engaging foreign partners more frequently than in the past to the detriment of our European partners, so be it. I'm not willing to risk American primacy so that we can stay close with Europe.

 

[rdean]

Earth to idiot in previous post, earth to idiot in previous post.

Jerusalem is not a settlement, it's the nation's capital.

Obama made zero demands in the PA.

In fact, he destroyed the peace process, because the PA now is free to make outrageous demands that Israel can't and won't meet.

It's all boils down that Obama's mentor is Rev. Wright.

Tell me what it feels like to be anti American, to constantly lie about your president. To do the work of al Qaeda. I really want to know. When you see the actual truth, doesn't it give you pause before you start lying again. And it's so strange. In their Churches, Christians pretend to stress telling the truth, then they get on message boards and tell dreadful and dishonest lies. What does that feel like to be a disgrace. Do Republicans raise their children to be anti American?

Poll: US Jews prefer Obama to Netanyahu
Survey conducted by J-Street reveals popularity for US President remains high at 59%, while support for Israeli prime minister drops to 44%
Yitzhak Benhorin Published: 03.27.10, 19:34 / Israel News

WASHINGTON – US President Barack Obama continues to be popular among American Jews – in fact 15% more popular than Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to a poll conducted by Israeli lobby J-Street, which is affiliated with the Left and competes with the Right-leaning veteran lobby group AIPAC.

Poll: US Jews prefer Obama to Netanyahu - Israel News, Ynetnews

Israel’s Haaretz newspaper reports that, according to a new poll examining Israeli attitudes toward President Obama, “a sweeping majority of Israelis think his treatment of this country [Israel] is friendly and fair.” The poll found that 51 percent of Israelis say Obama is “fair”, and 18 percent say he’s “friendly.”

Think Progress Poll: Majority of Israelis find Obama &#8216;fair&#8217; or &#8216;friendly.&#8217;

 

[gautama]

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

Define 'always'.

He's only been POTUS for 14 months. Before that.... hmmmm.... how many DAYS was he in the Senate?

CMike is 100% correct.

CLUE: NEVER......NEVER..... believe what this MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami SAYS......ALWAYS.....ALWAYS.....watch his DEEDS !!!!

This MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

EVERYONE OF MY POSTS PREDICTED HIS PRESENT ANTI-ISRAELI STANCE since his DEEDS ......INVARIABLY......CONTRADICTED what he stated in the SENATE.....and at AIPAC about a year ado when the POS reversed himself almost IMMEDIATELY after he made his THUNDEROUSLY APPLAUDED SPEECH to the Israelis about a year ago.

I predicted that the MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami would wind up kissing each and every arse of our enemy.......and knife Israel.....our ONLY staunch ally in the Mid East.

My NUMEROUS posts on this topic are available for anyone interested enough to confirm what I stated above.

 

[rdean]

President Obama has always been a good friend of Israel.

Define 'always'.

He's only been POTUS for 14 months. Before that.... hmmmm.... how many DAYS was he in the Senate?

CMike is 100% correct.

CLUE: NEVER......NEVER..... believe what this MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami SAYS......ALWAYS.....ALWAYS.....watch his DEEDS !!!!

This MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

EVERYONE OF MY POSTS PREDICTED HIS PRESENT ANTI-ISRAELI STANCE since his DEEDS ......INVARIABLY......CONTRADICTED what he stated in the SENATE.....and at AIPAC about a year ado when the POS reversed himself almost IMMEDIATELY after he made his THUNDEROUSLY APPLAUDED SPEECH to the Israelis about a year ago.

I predicted that the MARXIST Muslim PC Protector Obami Salami would wind up kissing each and every arse of our enemy.......and knife Israel.....our ONLY staunch ally in the Mid East.

My NUMEROUS posts on this topic are available for anyone interested enough to confirm what I stated above.

One would think Israeli Jews and American Jews would hate Obama because of all the "evil" he is doing. Yet, pols taken in Israel prove he is popular. In fact, even more popular than their own conservative president. I added links in my previous posts.

So the questions I have are, "What does it feel like to be so anti American? To lie about about your president? To do the work of al Qaeda?" I really want to know.