Barack Obama is JFK Jr.

[jillian]

Really I just don't see the connection. Obama is a socialist.

No. He's not.

 

[elvis]

Huh, really?

Did you learn this at a cocktail party on Martha's Vineyard?

good one.


the part about jackie I saw in a biography. I think it would have been difficult to go his entire life without getting into politics in some form or another. I would think it would be tough to be the son of JFK, though.

 

[elvis]

I have to agree with him on this, he never really seemed to be to interested in running for anything and only had a vague interest in it for his magazine. Plus if you are father and uncle had both been shot one when he was president and the other while running don't you think you would not want to get into the game.

that's a good point. I didn't even think about the "curse"

 

[random3434]

good one.


the part about jackie I saw in a biography. I think it would have been difficult to go his entire life without getting into politics in some form or another. I would think it would be tough to be the son of JFK, though.

Or a Kennedy Male.

 

[elvis]

Well that's damn nice of ya David !!! I'm glad to hear you are on the side of not killing presidential candidates.

he just compares some of them to Ayatollah Khoemeni.

 

[Luissa]

that's a good point. I didn't even think about the "curse"

What did Jackie say? Something like they kill Kennedy's here!

But one will never know what he would have been, for one wasn't his magazine starting to fail even before he died?

 

[DavidS]

Really I just don't see the connection. Obama is a socialist.

I guess you could consider JFK a socialist too, then. Income taxes were 70% when JFK was president. That would make Obama look like a saint.

 

[Andrew2382]

I guess you could consider JFK a socialist too, then. Income taxes were 70% when JFK was president. That would make Obama look like a saint.

yes, but he lowered them from 90%.

JFK wanted to lower taxes not raise them

 

[elvis]

yes, but he lowered them from 90%.

JFK wanted to lower taxes not raise them

true

 

[auditor0007]

Can it be said, that if John F. Kennedy Jr. was alive right now, that he could be standing in the exact spot Barack Obama is? Barack Obama is 48. JFK jr. would have been 48. JFK jr. could've easily ran for a Senate seat in 2003 and won on name-recogniton alone. He would 've beaten Hillary too. If she, or anyone for that matter, was crazy enough to run against him. Imagine having a Kennedy back in the White House. Obama is the closest will probably get. And so far, thats fine with me. My point is that the universe tends to correct itself. Having been robbed of a potentially great leader, who's leniage speaks for itself, it seems we have a second chance at such a leader.

Honestly, I think we are looking at Jimmy Carter, Jr.

 

[DavidS]

yes, but he lowered them from 90%.

JFK wanted to lower taxes not raise them

he wanted to lower them to a point where the government could make money and the people could still have job growth, wealth, etc.

No one could've ever dreamed of 39% taxes on the richest americans.

 

[Redneck]

Can it be said, that if John F. Kennedy Jr. was alive right now, that he could be standing in the exact spot Barack Obama is? Barack Obama is 48. JFK jr. would have been 48. JFK jr. could've easily ran for a Senate seat in 2003 and won on name-recogniton alone. He would 've beaten Hillary too. If she, or anyone for that matter, was crazy enough to run against him. Imagine having a Kennedy back in the White House. Obama is the closest will probably get. And so far, thats fine with me. My point is that the universe tends to correct itself. Having been robbed of a potentially great leader, who's leniage speaks for itself, it seems we have a second chance at such a leader.

Obama is NOT JFK jr....Obama is an opportunist...A chameleon, who will do or say anything to get power.

 

[Silence]

Caroline Kennedy herself has said that Obama is the first presidential candidate she's ever compared to her father so it's not much of a stretch to compare him to JFK jr.

However, I'd have hated to see what the republicans would do to JFK jr had he ran. They'd completely savage his personal life.

 

[Andrew2382]

eh not really, apparently your personal life and with whom you associate with throughout your life have no merit on a presidential election.

JFK Jr. would have been fine

 

[Navy1960]

Today our concern must be with that future. For the world is changing. The old era is ending. The old ways will not do.

Abroad, the balance of power is shifting. New and more terrible weapons are coming into use.

One-third of the world may be free, but one-third is the victim of a cruel repression, and the other third is rocked by poverty and hunger and disease. Communist influence has penetrated into Asia; it stands in the Middle East; and now festers some ninety miles off the coast of Florida. Friends have slipped into neutrality and neutrals have slipped into hostility. As our keynoter reminded us, the President who began his career by going to Korea ends it by staying away from Japan.

The world has been close to war before, but now man, who's survived all previous threats to his existence, has taken into his mortal hands the power to exterminate his species seven times over.

Here at home the future is equally revolutionary. The New Deal and the Fair Deal were bold measures for their generations, but now this is a new generation.

A technological output and explosion on the farm has led to an output explosion. An urban population revolution has overcrowded our schools and cluttered our cities and crowded our slums.

A peaceful revolution for human rights, demanding an end to racial discrimination in all parts of our community life, has strained at the leashes imposed by a timid executive leadership.

It is time, in short -- It is time, in short for a new generation of leadership. All over the world, particularly in the newer nations, young men are coming to power, men who are not bound by the traditions of the past, men who are not blinded by the old fears and hates and rivalries-- young men who can cast off the old slogans and the old delusions.

John F. Kennedy


Can a nation organized and governed such as ours endure?

That is the real question.
Have we the nerve and the will? Can we carry through in an age where we will witness not only new breakthroughs in weapons of destruction, but also a race for mastery of the sky and the rain, the ocean and the tides, the far side of space, and the inside of men's minds?

John F. Kennedy

American Rhetoric: John F. Kennedy -- 1960 Democratic National Convention Address

It's hard to say with any great confidence what JFK Jr. would have done. While his death was tragic and the death of his wife and his sister in law equally so, JFK Jr. was more into his magazine "GEORGE" than local politics. However, it can be said that he was tracking towards that direction with his law degree and position as an ADA. We will never know. As for his father, his father was a visionary in many ways and inspired people thats very true. In a political sense though, he was IMHO very hawkish on defense matters and was fiscally conservative. To counter that though , he was quite liberal on some social issues like poverty and and hunger and was most especially a champion of civil rights. With all that said, I would liken JFK more as a Centerist democrat in the old style or a moderate republican in todays world. The only comparison to Barack Obama and JFK while not in policy most especially, would be in the inspirational areas and some social issues such as the peace corps, and world hunger issues. However from a a policy standpoint these two men could not be more different.

 

[AllieBaba]

I don't believe Jon Jon ever had any intention of running for president. He never voiced a particular interest in it, except as a journalist.

The huge difference between Obama and JFK is, of course, their families. Obama doesn't have a huge tight knit, wealthy and ambitious family. At least not in this country. Obama doesn't have a brother named Robert.

However they are alike in that they both seem to enjoy stealing elections.

 

[AllieBaba]

Jon Jon would never have run. He was a playboy who enjoyed living his life anonymously as possible, doing the things that he enjoyed doing. He was in no way interested in participating in politics except in a peripheral way, or he would have already been doing that at the time of his death.

Jillian's just sharing her little fantasies with us.

 

[Silence]

I don't believe Jon Jon ever had any intention of running for president. He never voiced a particular interest in it, except as a journalist.

The huge difference between Obama and JFK is, of course, their families. Obama doesn't have a huge tight knit, wealthy and ambitious family. At least not in this country. Obama doesn't have a brother named Robert.

However they are alike in that they both seem to enjoy stealing elections.

so you're already saying if obama wins it's because he stole the election? if that is the case I assume you also concede that Bush stole the last two?

I don't think John Jr. had any desire to go into politics, however, if he were alive I think out current situation would compel him to take action to save the country his family loved and whom his father and uncle died in service of.

 

[DavidS]

Today our concern must be with that future. For the world is changing. The old era is ending. The old ways will not do.

Abroad, the balance of power is shifting. New and more terrible weapons are coming into use.

One-third of the world may be free, but one-third is the victim of a cruel repression, and the other third is rocked by poverty and hunger and disease. Communist influence has penetrated into Asia; it stands in the Middle East; and now festers some ninety miles off the coast of Florida. Friends have slipped into neutrality and neutrals have slipped into hostility. As our keynoter reminded us, the President who began his career by going to Korea ends it by staying away from Japan.

The world has been close to war before, but now man, who's survived all previous threats to his existence, has taken into his mortal hands the power to exterminate his species seven times over.

Here at home the future is equally revolutionary. The New Deal and the Fair Deal were bold measures for their generations, but now this is a new generation.

A technological output and explosion on the farm has led to an output explosion. An urban population revolution has overcrowded our schools and cluttered our cities and crowded our slums.

A peaceful revolution for human rights, demanding an end to racial discrimination in all parts of our community life, has strained at the leashes imposed by a timid executive leadership.

It is time, in short -- It is time, in short for a new generation of leadership. All over the world, particularly in the newer nations, young men are coming to power, men who are not bound by the traditions of the past, men who are not blinded by the old fears and hates and rivalries-- young men who can cast off the old slogans and the old delusions.

John F. Kennedy


Can a nation organized and governed such as ours endure?

That is the real question.
Have we the nerve and the will? Can we carry through in an age where we will witness not only new breakthroughs in weapons of destruction, but also a race for mastery of the sky and the rain, the ocean and the tides, the far side of space, and the inside of men's minds?

John F. Kennedy

American Rhetoric: John F. Kennedy -- 1960 Democratic National Convention Address

It's hard to say with any great confidence what JFK Jr. would have done. While his death was tragic and the death of his wife and his sister in law equally so, JFK Jr. was more into his magazine "GEORGE" than local politics. However, it can be said that he was tracking towards that direction with his law degree and position as an ADA. We will never know. As for his father, his father was a visionary in many ways and inspired people thats very true. In a political sense though, he was IMHO very hawkish on defense matters and was fiscally conservative. To counter that though , he was quite liberal on some social issues like poverty and and hunger and was most especially a champion of civil rights. With all that said, I would liken JFK more as a Centerist democrat in the old style or a moderate republican in todays world. The only comparison to Barack Obama and JFK while not in policy most especially, would be in the inspirational areas and some social issues such as the peace corps, and world hunger issues. However from a a policy standpoint these two men could not be more different.

Dear Navy:

Your commentary is so well thought out and intelligent it makes me look dumb.

Sincerely,
Albert Einstein

 

[Navy1960]

One thing to consider also, JFK Jr's mother Jackie was not very fond of the press to begin with after the savage way she was treated with her relationship with Onasis. I have a feeling that she had a very strong influence on him and her disdain for the media ,especially Washington media might not have sat well with her had he decided to run. As for JFK Jr's sister, IMO she like many others and admittedly so, my daughter as well Barack Obama has inspired her like JFK did many young people to take a keen interest in their country. I feel that Caroline see's this same spirit of inspiration her father once gave in Barack Obama so I personally was not surprised to see her supporting him .