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Tommy Tainant

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How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?
 
Are you suggesting we adopt a government more like your own?

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How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Mind your business Tommy. We don't care what you do in the UK, but mind your own business.
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Also I'm going to all but guarantee Tommy has never been to Alabama. But his flapping jaws and the flapping jaws of his leftist UK buddies have all but guaranteed that any boys from Al aren't going to fight his wars anymore.

Good luck with that, Tommy
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Mind your business Tommy. We don't care what you do in the UK, but mind your own business.
You are interfering anywhere, so...
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

HAVE you ever been to Alabama, Tommy? Yes? No?
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?
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How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Up until recently, these alleged crimes were mandated by federal law. The democrats have very dirty hands when it comes to minority majority districts i.e. "segregating black voters" as it was the cornerstone of the Voting Rights Act that they designed, enacted, and vehemently defended that mandated southern states create minority majority districts in order to force the election of black representatives. The Supreme Court couched warnings that they were going to gut the law if it was not updated. The democrats refused to change it; the supreme court did their thing; and now suddenly the democrats that forced the creation of these districts because of racism are boohooing that the districts they created are racist. It is no wonder even within the DNC, support for their establishment policies and candidates is quickly waning.
 
Are you suggesting we adopt a government more like your own?

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I dont think it matters which form of government you adopt if you are intent on this gerrymandering thing. Its incredibly cynical
.

We could discuss redistricting and boundary review in the UK. Or, perhaps electoral districts in Northern Ireland that favor Protestants even when natural boundaries provide for Catholic majorities.

Or, we could get on with running our modern democracy and you can have your tiny island with its antiquated monarchy.
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Up until recently, these alleged crimes were mandated by federal law. The democrats have very dirty hands when it comes to minority majority districts i.e. "segregating black voters" as it was the cornerstone of the Voting Rights Act that they designed, enacted, and vehemently defended that mandated southern states create minority majority districts in order to force the election of black representatives. The Supreme Court couched warnings that they were going to gut the law if it was not updated. The democrats refused to change it; the supreme court did their thing; and now suddenly the democrats that forced the creation of these districts because of racism are boohooing that the districts they created are racist. It is no wonder even within the DNC, support for their establishment policies and candidates is quickly waning.
So do you think that it is wrong ?
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Ah, Tommy? Alabama has voted Republican consistently since 1976 when it voted for Jimmy Carter...a good 'ole Southern boy! For you to claim that it took illegal gerrymandering to "flip" Alabama red is one of your dumber posts on this board!

Just a piece of advice? If you want to comment on our politics? Try knowing the basics before you claim to know what you're talking about!
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Up until recently, these alleged crimes were mandated by federal law. The democrats have very dirty hands when it comes to minority majority districts i.e. "segregating black voters" as it was the cornerstone of the Voting Rights Act that they designed, enacted, and vehemently defended that mandated southern states create minority majority districts in order to force the election of black representatives. The Supreme Court couched warnings that they were going to gut the law if it was not updated. The democrats refused to change it; the supreme court did their thing; and now suddenly the democrats that forced the creation of these districts because of racism are boohooing that the districts they created are racist. It is no wonder even within the DNC, support for their establishment policies and candidates is quickly waning.
So do you think that it is wrong ?

There are a lot of thats in my statement so I am not sure what you are asking about specifically. The democrats didn't mind the system they designed back when they had "blue dog" democrats i.e. conservative southerners in the party. They don't have many of those left.

As for gerrymandering, both parties do it. It is pretty much necessary in so much as the districts have to be drawn some where. Even the cases that reject districts reject them on the grounds they are not gerrymandered enough for the left. The only way to be neutral would be to look at population distribution only--no race, no gender, no political performance.

I am a neither so I don't have a dog in this fight. My complaint isn't gerrymandering. It is that there are not enough members of the House of Representatives so the districts are too large and the members represent very divergent interests. I would double the number of seats in the house at the very least, though it really should be tripled and change the way the legislature operates so that not all those members would have to live in DC area and voting was more a window to cast the vote instead of a high stakes immediate up or down vote. Say allow members to vote electronically and the vote to occur over a whole week.
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Up until recently, these alleged crimes were mandated by federal law. The democrats have very dirty hands when it comes to minority majority districts i.e. "segregating black voters" as it was the cornerstone of the Voting Rights Act that they designed, enacted, and vehemently defended that mandated southern states create minority majority districts in order to force the election of black representatives. The Supreme Court couched warnings that they were going to gut the law if it was not updated. The democrats refused to change it; the supreme court did their thing; and now suddenly the democrats that forced the creation of these districts because of racism are boohooing that the districts they created are racist. It is no wonder even within the DNC, support for their establishment policies and candidates is quickly waning.
So do you think that it is wrong ?

There are a lot of thats in my statement so I am not sure what you are asking about specifically. The democrats didn't mind the system they designed back when they had "blue dog" democrats i.e. conservative southerners in the party. They don't have many of those left.

As for gerrymandering, both parties do it. It is pretty much necessary in so much as the districts have to be drawn some where. Even the cases that reject districts reject them on the grounds they are not gerrymandered enough for the left. The only way to be neutral would be to look at population distribution only--no race, no gender, no political performance.

I am a neither so I don't have a dog in this fight. My complaint isn't gerrymandering. It is that there are not enough members of the House of Representatives so the districts are too large and the members represent very divergent interests. I would double the number of seats in the house at the very least, though it really should be tripled and change the way the legislature operates so that not all those members would have to live in DC area and voting was more a window to cast the vote instead of a high stakes immediate up or down vote. Say allow members to vote electronically and the vote to occur over a whole week.
The US is a banana republic, but not due to gerrymandering. It is due to the fact that the federal government refuses to abide by the rule of law...aka the Constitution. It is rule by the whims of the transnational capitalist class...aka the billionaires and millionaires.

Americans keep trying to fix things by electing men they HOPE will CHANGE things, evidence BO and Donnie, but obviously nothing changes.
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Ah, Tommy? Alabama has voted Republican consistently since 1976 when it voted for Jimmy Carter...a good 'ole Southern boy! For you to claim that it took illegal gerrymandering to "flip" Alabama red is one of your dumber posts on this board!

Just a piece of advice? If you want to comment on our politics? Try knowing the basics before you claim to know what you're talking about!
I am not claiming it. It seems to be a fact.
 
How gerrymandering and voter suppression paved the way for abortion bans

Alabama Republicans have pursued a similar gerrymandering strategy, segregating black voters to boost conservative white Republicans.
In his successful campaign for the US Senate in 2017, Democrat Doug Jones won 50 percent of the vote but carried just one of Alabama’s seven congressional districts—a sign of just how lopsided the state’s political map has become.
That same year, a federal court ruled that 12 of Alabama’s legislative districts were illegally racially gerrymandered. The Republican State Leadership Committee—which funded the GOP’s takeover of numerous state legislatures in 2010 and then coordinated the drawing of new, gerrymandered maps—spent $1.5 million to flip Alabama red for the first time since Reconstruction.


Many more examples are given.It is the death knell of democracy. If you feel that your vote doesnt count then you pretty much stop voting.

Do people get sent to jail for these crimes ?

Up until recently, these alleged crimes were mandated by federal law. The democrats have very dirty hands when it comes to minority majority districts i.e. "segregating black voters" as it was the cornerstone of the Voting Rights Act that they designed, enacted, and vehemently defended that mandated southern states create minority majority districts in order to force the election of black representatives. The Supreme Court couched warnings that they were going to gut the law if it was not updated. The democrats refused to change it; the supreme court did their thing; and now suddenly the democrats that forced the creation of these districts because of racism are boohooing that the districts they created are racist. It is no wonder even within the DNC, support for their establishment policies and candidates is quickly waning.
So do you think that it is wrong ?

There are a lot of thats in my statement so I am not sure what you are asking about specifically. The democrats didn't mind the system they designed back when they had "blue dog" democrats i.e. conservative southerners in the party. They don't have many of those left.

As for gerrymandering, both parties do it. It is pretty much necessary in so much as the districts have to be drawn some where. Even the cases that reject districts reject them on the grounds they are not gerrymandered enough for the left. The only way to be neutral would be to look at population distribution only--no race, no gender, no political performance.

I am a neither so I don't have a dog in this fight. My complaint isn't gerrymandering. It is that there are not enough members of the House of Representatives so the districts are too large and the members represent very divergent interests. I would double the number of seats in the house at the very least, though it really should be tripled and change the way the legislature operates so that not all those members would have to live in DC area and voting was more a window to cast the vote instead of a high stakes immediate up or down vote. Say allow members to vote electronically and the vote to occur over a whole week.
The US is a banana republic, but not due to gerrymandering. It is due to the fact that the federal government refuses to abide by the rule of law...aka the Constitution. It is rule by the whims of the transnational capitalist class...aka the billionaires and millionaires.

Americans keep trying to fix things by electing men they HOPE will CHANGE things, evidence BO and Donnie, but obviously nothing changes.
Its the same everywhere.
 

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