Post up shows that aren't any good. Current shows first but if you thought some from the past were cringe worthy feel free. The Orville is terrible. The 'jokes' are flat as a flounder and it's hard to tell if they mean it to be a comedy or a dramedy or wth. The interior of the ship is bland and the whole production looks like a weak ripoff of Star Trek TNG. The exterior ship designs aren't bad. Seth MacFarlane can't act. He's the guy that does Family Guy and Family Guy is one of those shows that is good every episode. I love that show. MacFarlane though is a nerd that has always wanted to be on Broadway and in movies or on tv but he doesn't have the talent for that. He should stick with the cartoon, it is great. The Orville looks like a show MacFarlane made because he always wanted to be Capt Kirk or Picard in a tv show. I predict this show will last half a season if that. It's just bad.