Bad news? or Good news?

[Luddly Neddite]

 

[MarathonMike]

There's a thread at NG -Facebook about this jerk.

Amazingly, there's one guy who says the guy should not be fired because he did nothing wrong at work. Further down the thread, someone makes the obvious point that enemies of the US have always infiltrated certain companies and agencies.

Obviously, we need a more effective way of flushing out our enemies.

True. They should fire all Social Justice Terrorist types like those who support Antifa, BLM, La Raza, etc.

On the face of it, I agree.

Except, that nazis and kkk are enemies of the US. AntiFa, BLM and LaRaza are not. Yes, its true that RWNJs have tried to say they are.

In any event, this will probably be the grounds the nazi uses when he sues NG.

Should we actively underwrite stated enemies of the US?

Is that the price we pay for our constitution?

We have a prez who consistently sides with our enemies and against the US. His fans love that. I don't. The same people used to idolize Putin here on this board. I despise that. But, they have the right to hate their ow country and love our enemy. But, should I be forced to hire them?

"We have a prez who consistently sides with our enemies and against the US. His fans love that."

 

[sealybobo]

I know you guys are upset about the election and all and I get it. But, wearing a MAGA hat doesn't make you a white supremacist.

Any more than wearing Hugo Boss makes you a Nazi

We know what maga means just because he’s swallowed the bs. We don’t know his background or how stupid he is. I would need to diagnose him.

He’s either a rich or stupid American

The fact that he works at N-G is proof positive he is way the hell smarter than you.

Not really. I sell to NG. It’s a conservative company and they have a lot of factory rats who don’t make half what I do.

People like you think everyone who works for companies like NG and John Deere are all brilliant minds. They aren’t.

But I’ll give them this. It’s a good company to work for. They pay pretty good and have decent benefits. But it’s not the same anymore for the average worker. Lots have changed for NG employees over the years. The ceos gotten richer but they’ve downsized and cut wages. So it’s not the company it once was

 

[Coyote]

I know you guys are upset about the election and all and I get it. But, wearing a MAGA hat doesn't make you a white supremacist.

Any more than wearing Hugo Boss makes you a Nazi

The election was over a year and a half ago. Isn’t it time for you to quit blaming everything on it?

 

[sealybobo]

I know you guys are upset about the election and all and I get it. But, wearing a MAGA hat doesn't make you a white supremacist.

Any more than wearing Hugo Boss makes you a Nazi

We know what maga means just because he’s swallowed the bs. We don’t know his background or how stupid he is. I would need to diagnose him.
.....

You might want to complete the 3rd grade before “diagnosing” anyone.


democrats are perplexed by anything that doesn’t validate their bullshit. So basically, they are perplexed by everything.

Example

 

[toobfreak]

I would have used the exact title of the article as the title of the thread but its too long.

The article says this is the latest bad news for Northrum Grumman. That this is considered damaging for NG makes it extremely good news for normal people. That NG considers this slime "bad news" is extremely good news for normal people.

Frightening that sub-humans like this jerk are able to get security clearances though.

We need to vote them off the island. In a manner of speaking.

Northrop Grumman’s latest bad news: There’s a white nationalist on its engineering team
“Northrop Grumman was recently made aware of alleged employee actions that are counter to our values,” the company said in a statement provided to Quartz. “Northrop Grumman is absolutely committed to the highest levels of ethics and integrity in all that we do, and ensuring that our workplace reflects our values of diversity and inclusion. We do not tolerate hatred or illegal conduct and we condemn racist activities in any shape or form. We are taking immediate action to look into the very serious issues raised by these reports.”

A FEW THOUGHTS:

1. You don't have to be white to be a Nationalist.
2. Being a Nationalist is the opposite of a Globalist, a nationalist puts country first, a globalist looks at what is best for all. As such, "Nationalism" is akin to patriotism and there is no "hate" component to it!
3. The assignment of "hate" to nationalism is a great lie. Somewhere along the line, nationalism has been conflated to imply Nazism. These are two separate things.
4. Since when does an employee have to conform his own personal values to his employers, and since when does a company have "values" outside of that which relates to the quality and ethics of their product and business? So long as you DO YOUR JOB and meet your employers conduct standards, its none of their fucking business your personal views on the world no more than it is their business your sexual orientation, tastes in food or choices for entertainment.
5. HOW THE FUCK does NG get away with, in one breath, saying they are for "diversity and inclusion," then in the very next breath literally say they will not even consider you or stamp you out if you don't confirm to their every inkling?
6. Even if this person was a racist, nationalist-socialist white Aryan skinhead Nazi, HOW THE FUCK is it any of NG's business so long as he keeps it to himself on his own free time? What did he do, go to a skinhead meeting wearing an NG tee-shirt?
   
7. I am absolutely sick to death of hearing companies tripping over their own two feet telling us how seriously they take racism. Racism is a form of discrimination which implies treating people differently based solely on race. Racism is NOT merely seeing and acknowledging different races exist and the differences between races. For once I'd like to hear a company say they were against DISCRIMINATION PERIOD, not just employees, but THEIRS. That they were very serious about and taking action to prevent discrimination based on race, sex, age, religion, disability, health and many other things.

 

[westwall]

I know you guys are upset about the election and all and I get it. But, wearing a MAGA hat doesn't make you a white supremacist.

Any more than wearing Hugo Boss makes you a Nazi

We know what maga means just because he’s swallowed the bs. We don’t know his background or how stupid he is. I would need to diagnose him.

He’s either a rich or stupid American

The fact that he works at N-G is proof positive he is way the hell smarter than you.

Not really. I sell to NG. It’s a conservative company and they have a lot of factory rats who don’t make half what I do.

People like you think everyone who works for companies like NG and John Deere are all brilliant minds. They aren’t.

But I’ll give them this. It’s a good company to work for. They pay pretty good and have decent benefits. But it’s not the same anymore for the average worker. Lots have changed for NG employees over the years. The ceos gotten richer but they’ve downsized and cut wages. So it’s not the company it once was

I never said brilliant, I said smart. No dumb person would be able to work at a company like that.

 

[theHawk]

Have you noticed they don’t typically burn the US flag?

By the way, who won the Mexican-American War? Mexico got its ass handed to them. Funny how you don’t include your LaRaza racist friends waving the Mexican flag and burning the US flag.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

He is what we fought a war to stop.

Should we now pretend we don't know what nazis, kkk, alt right, fascists really are? Should we pretend he is loyal to the US?

You're sounding like a paranoid conservative.

I believe in unencumbered Freedom of Speech for all, the core liberal value.
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Mac1958

Except for this employer.

That's what you're saying.

Like Roseann Barr, she has the right to be an ignorant racist, make repeated racist tweets and remarks. And, ABC has the right to refuse to support and defend that.

The problem is far too many on the right refuse to condemn white nationalists because they fear alienating a significant part of their political base.

But yes, private companies are at liberty to terminate the employment of employees because of their bigotry, racism, and hate, consistent with Federal, state, and local laws.

 

[Mac1958]

Like Roseann Barr, she has the right to be an ignorant racist, make repeated racist tweets and remarks. And, ABC has the right to refuse to support and defend that.

Did he say or do something? If he did, sure, that would depend on the situation and would be up to the company.

I may have missed it - what did he say or do?
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[Mac1958]

He is what we fought a war to stop.

Should we now pretend we don't know what nazis, kkk, alt right, fascists really are? Should we pretend he is loyal to the US?

You're sounding like a paranoid conservative.

I believe in unencumbered Freedom of Speech for all, the core liberal value.
.

Mac1958

Except for this employer.

That's what you're saying.

Like Roseann Barr, she has the right to be an ignorant racist, make repeated racist tweets and remarks. And, ABC has the right to refuse to support and defend that.

The problem is far too many on the right refuse to condemn white nationalists because they fear alienating a significant part of their political base.

But yes, private companies are at liberty to terminate the employment of employees because of their bigotry, racism, and hate, consistent with Federal, state, and local laws.

And many of us who lean Left, and are horrified by the illiberal authoritarians who have control, are regularly forced to stand up for speech we don't like.

Which is the point of freedom of expression to begin with. The illiberal authoritarians have conveniently "forgotten" that part. Because they're not liberal.
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[BasicHumanUnit]

Would you be equally outraged if it was discovered he wore a black mask and threw rocks at Trump supporters?

C'mon, there wouldn't even BE a conversation.....they would consider that "deserved Social Justice"

 

[Mac1958]

My having to constantly stand up for freedom of expression against so-called "LIBERALS" is NOT the way this is supposed to GO.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

And many of us who lean Left, and are horrified by the illiberal authoritarians who have control, are regularly forced to stand up for speech we don't like.
Which is the point of freedom of expression to begin with. The illiberal authoritarians have conveniently "forgotten" that part. Because they're not liberal.
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Thanks. Agreed.
We are dealing with a Marxist, Leninist Communist style insurgency.
What I cannot understand is why it is not illegal.
What part of our Constitution allows for political processes to take root that are expressly aimed at eliminating the Constitution itself?

Are we insanely politically correct to the point of demanding the loaded gun be pointed at our own heads and the trigger pulled in the name of "fairness" to these enemies?

If intolerance is to be tolerated at all, it should be an intolerance for anti-Constitutional ideologies to take root in the first place.

 

[Mac1958]

And many of us who lean Left, and are horrified by the illiberal authoritarians who have control, are regularly forced to stand up for speech we don't like. Which is the point of freedom of expression to begin with. The illiberal authoritarians have conveniently "forgotten" that part. Because they're not liberal.

Thanks. Agreed. We are dealing with a Marxist, Leninist Communist style insurgency. What I cannot understand is why it is not illegal.
What part of our Constitution allows for political processes to take root that are expressly aimed at eliminating the Constitution itself? Are we insanely politically correct to the point of demanding the loaded gun be pointed at our own heads and the trigger pulled in the name of "fairness" to these enemies?

It can't be illegal, because (a) they're entitled their own freedom of expression too, and (b) because we have a free vote based on what the voters hear and think.

So, it's the responsibility of their opponents to do a better job of convincing the electorate.

That's how it goes, at least as long as we have freedom of expression and a free vote. Let the best ideas and communicators win.
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[westwall]

He is what we fought a war to stop.

Should we now pretend we don't know what nazis, kkk, alt right, fascists really are? Should we pretend he is loyal to the US?

You're sounding like a paranoid conservative.

I believe in unencumbered Freedom of Speech for all, the core liberal value.
.

Mac1958

Except for this employer.

That's what you're saying.

Like Roseann Barr, she has the right to be an ignorant racist, make repeated racist tweets and remarks. And, ABC has the right to refuse to support and defend that.

The problem is far too many on the right refuse to condemn white nationalists because they fear alienating a significant part of their political base.

But yes, private companies are at liberty to terminate the employment of employees because of their bigotry, racism, and hate, consistent with Federal, state, and local laws.

A laughable assertion. The white supremacists are a tiny minority, and largely incompetent when they do band together. Your stereotypical ignorance is on show again.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

We have a prez who consistently sides with our enemies and against the US.

You seem to be behind the times.

Barack Obama is no longer President. His term in office ended nearly a year and a half ago.

Unlike him, his successor is not treasonously siding with the foreign criminals who have been invading our nation across our southern border. In fact, that is a large part of what the traitorous left wrong has been condemning President Trump for—for actually seeking to defend our nation against these invaders rather than surrendering it to them.