Bad News For Repubs; Economy May Be Getting Better

[Truthmatters]

LOL-FUCKING-L

And the only reason you care if the economy get's better is so that you can use it to attack Republicans???

Well, odds are the economy is not and will not get better... What then, bad news for Dems and Obama?


Fucking moron...

Why is the right constantly attacking any shread of good news about the eocnomy?

Americans should all be happy for any tick up and helping consumer confidence grow.

At this point in a down economy its consumer confidence that turns the next corner.

Spending by consumers.

They do it when they feel things are getting better.

You here on the right pretend every good tick means nothing and talk the shit about the economic prospects.

If your guy was on top you would NOT be doing this.

Its the right who is putting party over country.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Anyone else getting SICK of these types of threads?

Bad News For Repubs; Economy May Be Getting Better

As if REPUBLICANS aren't average people just as DEMOCRATS are.

People are different. They have different needs, different beliefs, different values and different levels of education/understanding. In context, the OP suggests that the Republican Party hopes the economy remains stagnant until the next general election; the GOP has done nothing to help the American worker since the economy tanked on their watch in 2008.

Which, if true, is a vast improvement over what the dems have done to make it worse.

 

[Avorysuds]

Give it time

Tea Baggers still have plenty of time to trash the economy

This is known as "I know the OP is full of shit so lets give Obama credit for something *good* that has not actually yet happened now, so later when the OP is proven wrong we can trash the TP again!"

YaY, RW is fucking retarded!

I have never seen someone flip flop as much as you RW on the economy... One week it's growing by leaps and bounds and you're demanding people give credit to Obama, the next it's in freefall and you're demanding people blame the Tea Party... It's fuckin funny as shit to watch you and I ain't the only one laffin.

Obama runs the economy.......didn't you hear

It does what he tells it to do. As bad as the Tea Tards want to destroy this great country, Our President will ultimately prevail

You are getting very bad at this... You must be proud to have only the super far fringe give you rep and thanks. You could start a thread about Tea Party people want to kill the middle class and you would have the same 2-5 retards show up and agree with you because they all hate Republicans too... You don't even have to be right or tell the truth anymore.

What does it mean when a person starts threads and literally the only people that agree with them are the same people over and over again. The same crazy “I really fucking hate Republicans” people whose job is to spam multiple boards with the same threads run around telling each other how great and right they are. Every once in a while you guys get something right and you know what, most just agree with you… Go after policy and it’s easy to show if a politician is *good* or *bad*. Look at Bush, it’s easy because he has policy… Look at Obama, it’s easy because he has policy… Neither of these people does one have to make fun of what the wear, their religious beliefs or how they talk… But that’s all you got when it comes to the TP. You don’t attack their policy, you pawn Obama’s bad, unpopular policies off on the TP or Republicans… That’s why you fail so hard.

Lucky you RW, TM thinks you’re smart, LOL.

 

[Avorysuds]

LOL-FUCKING-L

And the only reason you care if the economy get's better is so that you can use it to attack Republicans???

Well, odds are the economy is not and will not get better... What then, bad news for Dems and Obama?


Fucking moron...

Why is the right constantly attacking any shread of good news about the eocnomy?



Americans should all be happy for any tick up and helping consumer confidence grow.

At this point in a down economy its consumer confidence that turns the next corner.

Spending by consumers.

They do it when they feel things are getting better.

You here on the right pretend every good tick means nothing and talk the shit about the economic prospects.

If your guy was on top you would NOT be doing this.

Its the right who is putting party over country.

Because TM, as you just said... You are pointing out a SHRED of good news in PILES of MOUTAINS of bad news. You can't fix problem by looking at the random good while ignoring the ever growing amount of bad.

Do you want to play this game? Because even in 2007-2008 when the markets were crashing, believe it or not there were LOTS of SHREDS of good news... Should we have focused on that instead of the dominate amount of bad news so that the economy could have healed by our *good attitudes?*
If you try and pawn Obama’s failed policies on peoples “bad attitudes” does that not mean we get to dump the whole 2007-2008 collapse on people just like you for cheering when everything was falling apart? Do you need us to pull up the threads from then you kind was making on a daily bases?
How about when people like you posted thread after thread with made up hate filled bullshit claiming the Tea Part held the country hostage and got us downgraded? Do you TM want to take credit for more problems in the economy because you were busy having a “bad attitude”?

No, you want to claim it’s everyone else’s bad attitudes that hurt the economy because Obama, a Democrat is President and most of America understands his policies had no positive effect. Reality is you’re desperate at this point because it’s coming up on the GE and the economy is worse than it was last year with no recovery in sight. You need to shift blame but get this, people see that you and Obama are trying to do just that… shift blame, and it’ looks weak, people want a real leader.


And what is this "my guy" bull shit? And really, more "party over country?" TM, you JUST owned yourself... Because if it was a Republinca (Not your guy) you WOULDN'T be doing this... you know, like when you attacked the TP or BUSH. You would be full on attacking because as we have all come to knwo (and I do mean ever person on these boards) you are 100% party over country.

 

[Truthmatters]

That is what you say about each and every good sign.

You wish to dismantle any buildup of good signs.

Yet you all seem to relish each and every negative sign

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) — Consumer spending rose at its fastest rate in five months in July, easing concerns that the economy was falling back into recession.

...

The size of the increase in spending beat economists’ forecasts for a 0.5 percent advance. When adjusted for inflation, spending was up 0.5 percent last month, the largest gain in 1 1/2 years and the first increase since April.

“It’s a little far-fetched to truly believe that we are headed into another recession. This data doesn’t support that view at all,” said Joel Naroff, chief economist at Naroff Economic Advisors in Holland, Pa.

Good news for Obama?

I for one hope this economy turns around.

I dont want to see Obama re-elected, I think if he gets 4 more years he will cause more harm to america than good....however, I want to see my friends and neighbors working again.

Here is to hoping the economy turns around regardless of how it impacts obama and his re-election campaign.

 

[Avorysuds]

That is what you say about each and every good sign.

You wish to dismantle any buildup of good signs.

Yet you all seem to relish each and every negative sign

Sooo, party over country for you then TM? Gotcha.

Or maybe what you really want to say is "You're either with us, or you are against us."

Pointing out the vast amount of bad news after Obama spends Trillions is not "relishing" in bad news... It's pointing out we need change, something that seems to scare the crap out a simple minded fool like you.

 

[Wry Catcher]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) — Consumer spending rose at its fastest rate in five months in July, easing concerns that the economy was falling back into recession.

...

The size of the increase in spending beat economists’ forecasts for a 0.5 percent advance. When adjusted for inflation, spending was up 0.5 percent last month, the largest gain in 1 1/2 years and the first increase since April.

“It’s a little far-fetched to truly believe that we are headed into another recession. This data doesn’t support that view at all,” said Joel Naroff, chief economist at Naroff Economic Advisors in Holland, Pa.

Good news for Obama?

I for one hope this economy turns around.

I dont want to see Obama re-elected, I think if he gets 4 more years he will cause more harm to america than good....however, I want to see my friends and neighbors working again.

Here is to hoping the economy turns around regardless of how it impacts obama and his re-election campaign.

I think that's a fair and responsible reaction to our current and long lasting economic situation. I too want to see our economy rebound and I listen to, read about and consider the alternatives offered by potential candidates for POTUS.

I want Obama to be reelected. I fear that the announced candidates for the Republican nomination will convince the voters that they really have a plan to fix problems decades in the making without doing more and greater harm. Watching Bachmann & Perry - the current darlings of the far right - I hear and see a pair of charlatans and demagogues, the last thing we need in The Oval.

Obama is a pragmatist; the candidates for the Republican Parties nomination continue to paint him as an extremist - a socialist, marxists or muslim - when there is no evidence to suggest he is anything but a moderate Democrat. Their rhetoric is divisive and offers nothing of substance for a thinking voter to consider, the arguments offered thus far are nothing more than emotional appeals. The fact that many Americans accept them as appropriate leaders is most troubling; the fact that the American voter has always rejected extremist candidates hoping to be remake America offers hope.

 

[Wiseacre]

This is ridiculous. The opposition always tries to diminish or even sabotage whatever the current president is doing, possibly for political reasons but also because they truly believe the current policies are not in the best interests of the country. Let's not pretend that one party is more guilty of obstructionism than the other one.

BTW, there were plenty of conservatives who were not happy at all with Bush43's prolifigate spending, and perhaps many have forgotten that some incumbent repubs got voted out in the last primaries for their failure to keep spending down and govern more wisely. For many cons, there is a firm belief that what Obama is doing is flat out bad policy. What some might mistake for glee at poor numbers is really confirmation that things are fucked up. Not many people are happy over the recent economic downturn.

Tell me, how many of you lib/dems were happy that the Irag war did not go well for several years? Were you happy that so many of our troops came home in body bags? You were opposed to what Bush43 was doing, fair enough. I wouldn't claim that you danced with joy when the latest casualty numbers came out, and yet you think the other side is happy today when the economy sputters and so many are out of work and desperate. Is it possible you're carrying your bias just a little too far?

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Good news for Obama?

I for one hope this economy turns around.

I dont want to see Obama re-elected, I think if he gets 4 more years he will cause more harm to america than good....however, I want to see my friends and neighbors working again.

Here is to hoping the economy turns around regardless of how it impacts obama and his re-election campaign.

I think that's a fair and responsible reaction to our current and long lasting economic situation. I too want to see our economy rebound and I listen to, read about and consider the alternatives offered by potential candidates for POTUS.

I want Obama to be reelected. I fear that the announced candidates for the Republican nomination will convince the voters that they really have a plan to fix problems decades in the making without doing more and greater harm. Watching Bachmann & Perry - the current darlings of the far right - I hear and see a pair of charlatans and demagogues, the last thing we need in The Oval.

Obama is a pragmatist; the candidates for the Republican Parties nomination continue to paint him as an extremist - a socialist, marxists or muslim - when there is no evidence to suggest he is anything but a moderate Democrat. Their rhetoric is divisive and offers nothing of substance for a thinking voter to consider, the arguments offered thus far are nothing more than emotional appeals. The fact that many Americans accept them as appropriate leaders is most troubling; the fact that the American voter has always rejected extremist candidates hoping to be remake America offers hope.

I understand where you are coming from.

On the surface I disagree with your views on Perry. Thus far I just see him as a typical texan conservative who has an EXCELLENT track record for job creation in his state.

Some other things have been coming out that make me want to look closer at him (im not a religious guy and kinda dont like when people get all religious like bachman tends to do) and its way to far out for me to be sure.

I dont like bachman at all, I actually would Prefer Ron Paul if he wasn't foreign policy suicidal or herman cain if he understood that just being of a specific religion (just like being a specific race) doesn't mean you should automatically fall under more scrutiny than someone of a different religion.

I dunno...i thought this was going to be a short response, trying to keep my word

 

[Wry Catcher]

I for one hope this economy turns around.

I dont want to see Obama re-elected, I think if he gets 4 more years he will cause more harm to america than good....however, I want to see my friends and neighbors working again.

Here is to hoping the economy turns around regardless of how it impacts obama and his re-election campaign.

I think that's a fair and responsible reaction to our current and long lasting economic situation. I too want to see our economy rebound and I listen to, read about and consider the alternatives offered by potential candidates for POTUS.

I want Obama to be reelected. I fear that the announced candidates for the Republican nomination will convince the voters that they really have a plan to fix problems decades in the making without doing more and greater harm. Watching Bachmann & Perry - the current darlings of the far right - I hear and see a pair of charlatans and demagogues, the last thing we need in The Oval.

Obama is a pragmatist; the candidates for the Republican Parties nomination continue to paint him as an extremist - a socialist, marxists or muslim - when there is no evidence to suggest he is anything but a moderate Democrat. Their rhetoric is divisive and offers nothing of substance for a thinking voter to consider, the arguments offered thus far are nothing more than emotional appeals. The fact that many Americans accept them as appropriate leaders is most troubling; the fact that the American voter has always rejected extremist candidates hoping to be remake America offers hope.

I understand where you are coming from.

On the surface I disagree with your views on Perry. Thus far I just see him as a typical texan conservative who has an EXCELLENT track record for job creation in his state.

Some other things have been coming out that make me want to look closer at him (im not a religious guy and kinda dont like when people get all religious like bachman tends to do) and its way to far out for me to be sure.

I dont like bachman at all, I actually would Prefer Ron Paul if he wasn't foreign policy suicidal or herman cain if he understood that just being of a specific religion (just like being a specific race) doesn't mean you should automatically fall under more scrutiny than someone of a different religion.

I dunno...i thought this was going to be a short response, trying to keep my word

It's hard to offer a reasoned response in one sentence (or less, as some here resort to emoticons or idiotgrams). A reasoned response on this message board can't be too long, three short paragraphs seems best; you offered more substance than do some who write more.

 

[Immanuel]

That is what you say about each and every good sign.

You wish to dismantle any buildup of good signs.

Yet you all seem to relish each and every negative sign

Sooo, party over country for you then TM? Gotcha.

Or maybe what you really want to say is "You're either with us, or you are against us."

Pointing out the vast amount of bad news after Obama spends Trillions is not "relishing" in bad news... It's pointing out we need change, something that seems to scare the crap out a simple minded fool like you.

Is her supporting party over country a surprise to you? Where have you been?

Honestly, she doesn't give a rat's ass about this country. All she cares about is her Democratic Party.

Immie

 

[Wiseacre]

I've ben voting for more than 40 years, and most of the time had to choose between what I felt was the lesser of two evils. Sometimes went GOP, sometimes Dem, according to who I felt would do the best job for all of us.

IMHO, the repubs screwed up under Bush43 and deserved to get kicked out. And I think the Dems have screwed up just as bad if not worse under Obama and likewise should be replaced. I do not believe we should support what I would term as under-performance. As a country, we need to be sending the message: serve us well or go home, regardless of political party. If we don't do that, then we get the gov't we deserve.

 

[Immanuel]

I've ben voting for more than 40 years, and most of the time had to choose between what I felt was the lesser of two evils. Sometimes went GOP, sometimes Dem, according to who I felt would do the best job for all of us.

IMHO, the repubs screwed up under Bush43 and deserved to get kicked out. And I think the Dems have screwed up just as bad if not worse under Obama and likewise should be replaced. I do not believe we should support what I would term as under-performance. As a country, we need to be sending the message: serve us well or go home, regardless of political party. If we don't do that, then we get the gov't we deserve.

There is not a Republican in the mix that I intend to vote for. I would dearly love to see this economy turn around BEFORE the next election and quite frankly, if it did turn around, I mean really turn around, I would more than likely vote for President Obama. I don't thing that if President Obama were "Super-President" he could possibly turn this economy around that quickly. It is not his fault. Congress and an attitude of "screw the employers of this country" in Washington is the problem that I see.

The problem is that I think with President Obama's policies that if he wins next year, then we will still be having this discussion four years from now, but instead of just me being unemployed, there are going to be a hell of a lot more of you that are unemployed.

Then again... which Republican has the answer?

Immie

 

[Wry Catcher]

I've ben voting for more than 40 years, and most of the time had to choose between what I felt was the lesser of two evils. Sometimes went GOP, sometimes Dem, according to who I felt would do the best job for all of us.

IMHO, the repubs screwed up under Bush43 and deserved to get kicked out. And I think the Dems have screwed up just as bad if not worse under Obama and likewise should be replaced. I do not believe we should support what I would term as under-performance. As a country, we need to be sending the message: serve us well or go home, regardless of political party. If we don't do that, then we get the gov't we deserve.

How has Obama performed worse than Bush? Given that most of what Obama has done and attempted to do was a direct result of what he inherited, and much of it has continued the policies begun under Bush?

What has President Obama done, or not done, for you to conclude he is worse? You may disagree with "Obamacare" but what we got was a camel, not the horse we needed and that was a result of the special interests who benefit from the status quo pouring lots of money into the Republican camp.

 

[Wiseacre]

I've ben voting for more than 40 years, and most of the time had to choose between what I felt was the lesser of two evils. Sometimes went GOP, sometimes Dem, according to who I felt would do the best job for all of us.

IMHO, the repubs screwed up under Bush43 and deserved to get kicked out. And I think the Dems have screwed up just as bad if not worse under Obama and likewise should be replaced. I do not believe we should support what I would term as under-performance. As a country, we need to be sending the message: serve us well or go home, regardless of political party. If we don't do that, then we get the gov't we deserve.

How has Obama performed worse than Bush? Given that most of what Obama has done and attempted to do was a direct result of what he inherited, and much of it has continued the policies begun under Bush?

What has President Obama done, or not done, for you to conclude he is worse? You may disagree with "Obamacare" but what we got was a camel, not the horse we needed and that was a result of the special interests who benefit from the status quo pouring lots of money into the Republican camp.

We've got what, 2 or 3 million fewer employed than we did when when Obama took over, and I don't give a fuck what Bush did. All I care about is what works, and what Obama has tried has not worked. We came out of a bad recession but have not progressed, we've even slumped backwards. We may not have a double dip, but we're barely keeping out of one. That is unacceptable in my book. You can blame the repubs all you want, but the buck stops at 1600 Pennsylvania ave.

Seriously, you really think the GOP had anything to do with what was in ObamaCare? That's pretty lame dude, you're not going to take any responsibility at all for what has transpired since Jan 2009, are you?

 

[Wry Catcher]

I've ben voting for more than 40 years, and most of the time had to choose between what I felt was the lesser of two evils. Sometimes went GOP, sometimes Dem, according to who I felt would do the best job for all of us.

IMHO, the repubs screwed up under Bush43 and deserved to get kicked out. And I think the Dems have screwed up just as bad if not worse under Obama and likewise should be replaced. I do not believe we should support what I would term as under-performance. As a country, we need to be sending the message: serve us well or go home, regardless of political party. If we don't do that, then we get the gov't we deserve.

How has Obama performed worse than Bush? Given that most of what Obama has done and attempted to do was a direct result of what he inherited, and much of it has continued the policies begun under Bush?

What has President Obama done, or not done, for you to conclude he is worse? You may disagree with "Obamacare" but what we got was a camel, not the horse we needed and that was a result of the special interests who benefit from the status quo pouring lots of money into the Republican camp.

We've got what, 2 or 3 million fewer employed than we did when when Obama took over, and I don't give a fuck what Bush did. All I care about is what works, and what Obama has tried has not worked. We came out of a bad recession but have not progressed, we've even slumped backwards. We may not have a double dip, but we're barely keeping out of one. That is unacceptable in my book. You can blame the repubs all you want, but the buck stops at 1600 Pennsylvania ave.

Seriously, you really think the GOP had anything to do with what was in ObamaCare? That's pretty lame dude, you're not going to take any responsibility at all for what has transpired since Jan 2009, are you?

You actually believe the Congress didn't have an effect on the final health care bill? I find that incredible.

Most of us who supported reform supported a single payer system and universal prentative care. This trouble the special interests who profit on the misery of others. Do we have the best health care in he world? Yep. Is it available to all? Nope. Hence I characterize those who stonewalled and waterdowned the final product callous conservatives.

 

[edthecynic]

Yeah well if it were not for all you fucking liberal’s that sat around wishing for a fucking depression to happen under Bush so you could get a Democrats elected we wouldn't be in this mess...


You mean like that? You fucking idiot... See how dumb you people sound.

November 5, 2008
RUSH: I hope all your Joe the Plumbers are unemployed in six months! There.

October 31, 2008
RUSH: Joe the Plumber. Now, Joe the Plumber is an average citizen

 

[signelect]

Let me know where you live, I may want to move there, the economy where I live is not so hat and the leader still doesn't have a clue.

 

[signelect]

You can't fly a plane just because you have seen one. Well you can't create job just because you have seen one. Obama has never held a private sector job where he had to do something to keep the position.