Bad Faith: The Catholic Hierarchy’s Pointless Campaign Against LGBT Rights

If it's OK to have a gym that only accepts women as members, why is it wrong to have a faith that allows only believers?
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
Because the real god isn't homophobic and wants people to fight discrimination wherever they find it.
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
Because the real god isn't homophobic and wants people to fight discrimination wherever they find it.

Says you. Others say differently, and the bible is pretty clear that homosexual acts are sinful.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.

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If it's OK to have a gym that only accepts women as members, why is it wrong to have a faith that allows only believers?

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.[/QUOTE]

The Catholic Church faith in schizoid behavior of being an Islam Christiananality pedophile mentality to create a churchstate where "serve the Pope or die" only accepts their comical "StarBellied Sneeches with Stars Upon Thars" edict of one nation under God certainly lets their hierarchy walk on water protected & served by lynching enforcement where it doesn't matter to their master race when it's KKK churchstate holy ghosts baptizes eyes by urination prior to 9/11 & then again afterwards; just as decades ago from their baptizes eyes by urinations prior to their assassination of JFK & then again afterwards by a Papal contingent of thieving bereavement memorial to JFK arsonists; as if the faith of these homicidal sociopsychopathic suicidal jihadists is a religion instead of just business as usual being gay in celebrations of just too dang lily brilliant white as a Christian Nation.
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
Because the real god isn't homophobic and wants people to fight discrimination wherever they find it.

Says you. Others say differently, and the bible is pretty clear that homosexual acts are sinful.
The bible was written by men who were homophobic. It hasn't been proven to be the actual word of god, has it?
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.
Then why do people expect the LGBT crowd to shut up about them being homophobic and generally bigoted?
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
Because the real god isn't homophobic and wants people to fight discrimination wherever they find it.

Says you. Others say differently, and the bible is pretty clear that homosexual acts are sinful.
The bible was written by men who were homophobic. It hasn't been proven to be the actual word of god, has it?

Asking for proof that cannot be proven shows you really don't have an argument or a point. The simple fact is the document considers homosexual acts as sinful, as does the Koran, as do most other Religious texts.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.
Then why do people expect the LGBT crowd to shut up about them being homophobic and generally bigoted?

they don't have to shut up, they just have to realize that constitutionally they cannot get their way.
 
Why are people so obsessed with changing 1500 years of Catholic rules? If you disagree with the Catholic Church's stance, don't go to the Catholic Church. No one forces you to.

I don't agree with the Catholic Church or a number of their stances so I'm not a member of their Church. Seems like a simple solution to me.

It sounds like you think ex-catholics should not comment on problems in the catholic church.

I disagreed with the church and I left.
My coworker told me he was thinking about being a priest when he was younger but chose not to. He's gay! Now I'm convinced any Catholic priest has to be a closeted gay. There is something wrong with a man not having sex. Glad our priests can marry. We split from the Catholic Church. Greek Orthodox.
Why did you resurrect a thread from 6 YEARS AGO to respond to someone who is BANNED?
 
Kind of tired about LGBT making everything about them. Not everything is. People don't attend church or follow the faith to learn about LGBT wants, needs, rights, goals. The Church focuses on God and our our relationship with Him. ALL People of faith should remember Galatians 3:28:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, there is no male and female (and here let's add there is no hetero, no LGBT), for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

And that's the focus.
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
Because the real god isn't homophobic and wants people to fight discrimination wherever they find it.

Says you. Others say differently, and the bible is pretty clear that homosexual acts are sinful.
Yep... Leviticus 18:22. Leaves no doubt at all where God stands on homos.

Any church that openly accepts homos and performs homo marriages is defiling the Bible and spitting in the face of God.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.
Then why do people expect the LGBT crowd to shut up about them being homophobic and generally bigoted?

Either side can say whatever they want. I support the church's right to allow, or not allow, whomever they chose to become members or marry in their church. I take great solace in knowing that churches haven't been forced to marry anyone aganist their wishes in this country.
 
When you can actually get the church to recognize the LGBT crowd, and afford them the very same thing heteros get from the church, then maybe they'll shut up?

Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
Because the real god isn't homophobic and wants people to fight discrimination wherever they find it.

Says you. Others say differently, and the bible is pretty clear that homosexual acts are sinful.
The bible was written by men who were homophobic. It hasn't been proven to be the actual word of god, has it?

Asking for proof that cannot be proven shows you really don't have an argument or a point. The simple fact is the document considers homosexual acts as sinful, as does the Koran, as do most other Religious texts.
The point that you missed is that they say (Muslims as well) that it IS the word of their god. So they, and you, should prove that their god hates homos, as the men claimed in their book.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.
Then why do people expect the LGBT crowd to shut up about them being homophobic and generally bigoted?

they don't have to shut up, they just have to realize that constitutionally they cannot get their way.
It's a free country, they can try as much as they like to get their rights recognized universally and constitutionally. You just want them to go back in the closet where they belong, right?
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.
Then why do people expect the LGBT crowd to shut up about them being homophobic and generally bigoted?

Either side can say whatever they want. I support the church's right to allow, or not allow, whomever they chose to become members or marry in their church. I take great solace in knowing that churches haven't been forced to marry anyone aganist their wishes in this country.
You support a church's rights to be bigoted, racist... any form of hate group they want. Got it.
 
Why do you feel the need to force Churches to accept your viewpoints?

How about you head down to the local radicalized Mosque and tell them to accept Gay people and let them marry there?
Because the real god isn't homophobic and wants people to fight discrimination wherever they find it.

Says you. Others say differently, and the bible is pretty clear that homosexual acts are sinful.
The bible was written by men who were homophobic. It hasn't been proven to be the actual word of god, has it?

Asking for proof that cannot be proven shows you really don't have an argument or a point. The simple fact is the document considers homosexual acts as sinful, as does the Koran, as do most other Religious texts.
The point that you missed is that they say (Muslims as well) that it IS the word of their god. So they, and you, should prove that their god hates homos, as the men claimed in their book.

They don't have to prove jack shit. That is the benefit of freedom of religion.
 
No, you should treat heterosexual just like you treat everyone else.

Gays can't marry in most churches, which also discriminate against women.

There are plenty of churches that will marry gay people. Some do. Many don't. A church shouldn't be forced to marry any couple, gay or otherwise, if it goes aganist their teachings.
Then why do people expect the LGBT crowd to shut up about them being homophobic and generally bigoted?

they don't have to shut up, they just have to realize that constitutionally they cannot get their way.
It's a free country, they can try as much as they like to get their rights recognized universally and constitutionally. You just want them to go back in the closet where they belong, right?

I said they can blather about it all they want. they just can't get their way.

They can't force a church to marry them, and they shouldn't be able to force a baker to bake a fucking cake for them.
 

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