Discussion in 'Iran' started by Gunny, Jun 3, 2008.
Kind of like no wise nation of logical person would use suicide as a weapon, or deny the Holocaust?
I imagine Khamenei is really sweating that first face-to-face with Obama. Certainly he will then relent.
Why would Obama meet with Khamenei? I though Ahmadinnerjacket was the leader of Iran?
You thought wrong.
No, I'm right. I just looked it up and according to McCain:
MCCAIN: I mean, the fact is [Ahmadinejads] the acknowledged leader of that country and you may disagree, but thats a uh, thats your right to do so, but I think if you asked any average American who the leader of Iran is, I think theyd know.
It is an interesting article, but obviously in his position McCain has access to much better intelligence. Its Ahmadinejad.
Alphabet's a figurehead for the Islamic Republic which is actually controlled by the fundies. Them sending him around to be their mouthpiece doesn't make him leader of squat. It takes eyes off them and puts them on him.
A simple little trick. It worked on you.
Is our crystal ball clear enough now to foresee the consequences of relations, or lack thereof, between Iran and Israel?
Let's recap, Iran still wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth. Various terrorist entities, such as Hamas, Hezbolla want the same thing. Arab nations in General are sympathetic to these aims and thus will not facilitate any peace efforts.
Therefore, Israel still remains alone in the Middle east with only distant (USA, EU) support.
New developments in Iran working to achieve Nuclear weapons will assuredly bring military response by Israel when the Iranian progress in Nuclear weapons development reaches a predetermined point. Like the raid on Iraq some years ago.
If such a raid takes place, due to the magnitude of the Iranian project, nuclear weapons will most likely be employed.
The Iranians will probably retaliate by blocking the Strait of Hormuz with sunken ships. Not unlike the Suez Canal in 1973.
What will the US role be, will it be in concert with EU and others or unilateral?
The key here, IMO, is preventing the situation from reaching this point and that I believe is the US strategy with sanctions, inspections, international pressure and so forth.
If this fails and Israel attacks Iran the character of the US President at the time will determine our response. Our options would be 1. join in the attack with direct or indirect support. 2. Clear the strait or better still take action to prevent the straits blockage beforehand. 3. Try and destabilize the Iranian government (doubtful). 4. Vacillate like a paper tiger 5. or, let others with national interest in the region lead the response (that's my choice).
Going to work now, be back tonight, see ya on the board.
Not that your point isn't without merit, but I suspect he meant more like no wise nation (read: like he thinks the United States of America isn't) is interested in nuclear weapons.
We can imagine, I suppose, that the nonaligned (to USA hegemony) nations don't see the USA's arsenal of nuclear weapons as a threat to their interests, but we would be damned foolish to think that will ever be the case.
Everything you post on this board seems to have something to do with what John McCain said or did. Try getting down off his dick and expand your mind, huh?
The Supreme Council in Iran is the decision making body. Mahmoud is just a bobblehead. That you didn't know that, tells me that you ought to go do some more research on middle east issues, Iran specifically, before you insert your opinion on it.
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