Axis of (evil) Oppression

[ekrem]

If the likes of Mubarak are Tamagotchi's, who was the pet-holder for all this time?

 

[Ropey]

It's da joos. Dey control all the Muslims in the ME don'tcha know. If a Muslim is doing something wrong, it's da joos dat are making it happen.

 

[ekrem]

American universities have about 1,400 full-time faculty members specialising in the Middle East.
Of those, an estimated 400-500 are experts on some aspect of contemporary politics in the region, but their views are rarely sought or heard, either by the media or government.

US thinktanks give lessons in foreign policy | World news | guardian.co.uk

The article is from 2002 and examines the situation why Faculty Members of the Universities stand no chance against the people of the think-tanks in public debate.

An University Professor would probably say, that it isn't a good idea to support a Dictator.
A think-Tank, maybe in mission to Lobby for a specific foreign nation, will probably say, that it's the best thing to have people like Mubarak governing the country, who is delivering stability on the border - even if that means, that civil society within the country is being oppressed.

What's the reason, that US policy through the decades has witnessed an Axis-Shift away from promoting Human Rights to supporting Dictators like Mubarak?

 

[ekrem]

Support to Egypt (Mubarak) was essential for Israel to develop.

-- Hillary Clinton

 

[ekrem]

That's the reason why USA will be with nothing (influence) left in the new Middle-East.
With dictators in place, the game was not about winning hearts and minds of the Middle-Eastern people. Now the game is changing, and that 'hearts and minds'-thing you've already lost.

 

[ekrem]

Hard to be US diplomat these days with Israel-centered Mid-East foreign policy.

 

[ekrem]

Wannabe friends?

 

[docmauser1]

Hard to be US diplomat these days with Israel-centered Mid-East foreign policy.

But very easy to be an ottomaniacal president nutjob in charge of Turkey with its Israel-centered mideast foreign policy.

 

[High_Gravity]

That's the reason why USA will be with nothing (influence) left in the new Middle-East.
With dictators in place, the game was not about winning hearts and minds of the Middle-Eastern people. Now the game is changing, and that 'hearts and minds'-thing you've already lost.

LOL, the US is still allies with the major oil producing countries Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman etc plus you don't know what the new governments of Egypt and Libya relations will be like with the US, you don't like the US are just projecting bullshit.

 

[ekrem]

But very easy to be an ottomaniacal president nutjob in charge of Turkey with its Israel-centered mideast foreign policy.

The British Queen knighted the 'ottomaniacal president' in Istanbul.
With the Knight Grand Cross he joins people like Reagan and Father Bush.
For you it is 'Sir'.

 

[High_Gravity]

But very easy to be an ottomaniacal president nutjob in charge of Turkey with its Israel-centered mideast foreign policy.

The British Queen knighted the 'ottomaniacal president' in Istanbul.
With the Knight Grand Cross he joins people like Reagan and Father Bush.
For you it is 'Sir'.

LMAO Robert Mugabe was also Knighted, besides nobody cares about that rubbish besides the English.

 

[ekrem]

That was in 2008 in Istanbul when he was knighted.
In 2010 he went to London to receive the Chatham Prize from the Queen for his contribution to the improvement of international relations.

The Brits have understood the future of this region

 

[ekrem]

Cameron calls Gaza 'prison camp' - CNN

 

[Ropey]

Hard to be US diplomat these days with Israel-centered Mid-East foreign policy.

But very easy to be an ottomaniacal president nutjob in charge of Turkey with its Israel-centered mideast foreign policy.

Indeed. Meanwhile Turks sweep their genocide and murders of the Armenians and Kurds under the rug while pointing elsewhere.

But very easy to be an ottomaniacal president nutjob in charge of Turkey with its Israel-centered mideast foreign policy.

The British Queen knighted the 'ottomaniacal president' in Istanbul.
With the Knight Grand Cross he joins people like Reagan and Father Bush.
For you it is 'Sir'.

LMAO Robert Mugabe was also Knighted, besides nobody cares about that rubbish besides the English.

LOL

Look who you're posting to HG.

 

[ekrem]

Turkey fullfills the Copenhagen Criteria, a prerequisite to open membership talks.
This means, there exist functioning State Institutions that guarantee:
- Democracy
- Rule of Law
- Human Rights
- Protection of Minorities
- Market Economy
Copenhagen criteria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


All come directly from EU Commission
2005
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/arc...kage/sec_1426_final_progress_report_tr_en.pdf

2006
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2006/nov/tr_sec_1390_en.pdf

2007
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2007/nov/turkey_progress_reports_en.pdf


2008
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf...eports_nov_2008/turkey_progress_report_en.pdf

2009
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2009/tr_rapport_2009_en.pdf

2010
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/pdf/key_documents/2010/package/tr_rapport_2010_en.pdf


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On one side we have the EU screening Turkey during the membership talks, publishing every year a benchmark-report.
On the other side we have Schlomo with his wingnut-agenda against Turkey.

Whom shall we believe?

 

[High_Gravity]

 

[Ropey]

we have Schlomo with his wingnut-agenda against Turkey

 

[Ropey]

But very easy to be an ottomaniacal president nutjob in charge of Turkey with its Israel-centered mideast foreign policy.

The British Queen knighted the 'ottomaniacal president' in Istanbul.
With the Knight Grand Cross he joins people like Reagan and Father Bush.
For you it is 'Sir'.

LMAO Robert Mugabe was also Knighted, besides nobody cares about that rubbish besides the English.

From murder to terror: the tactics of Robert Mugabe

President Mugabe began murdering his opponents less than three years after he came to power in 1980, declaring that his rule would mark “the age of love” and reconciliation with the Rhodesian whites against whom he had fought.

Nine years later the Legal Resources Foundation (LRF) and the Catholic Commission for Justice and Peace in Zimbabwe (CCJP) delivered a 260-page report on their investigations into what Mr Mugabe called Operation Gukurahundi (“the rain that washes away the chaff&#8221. Interviewing thousands of survivors and victims' relatives, the report, Breaking the Silence, pieced together the atrocities in detail, although there were huge gaps in the information because so many of the witnesses had been murdered. The report was able to identify 1,791 victims. It said that “the figure is reasonably certainly 3,750 dead. More than that it is not possible to say, except to allow that the real figure for the dead could be double 3,000, or even higher.”

Further research was carried out by human rights researchers in Matabeleland. The climate of fear that still pervaded while the CCJP and the LRF carried out their investigations had abated considerably. Villagers were less frightened to take researchers to the sites of mass graves in the bush, or to the bottoms of mine shafts, and felt free to speak. Reports have yet to be published but, said one of the researchers who asked not to be named, “the final tally is no fewer than 10,000 and no more than 20,000”.

Back to Turkey

Although mass demonstrations do not threaten Turkey, the Kurdish issue escalates gradually in the country. Kurds’ struggle for their constitutional rights, led by 21 MPs in the Turkish parliament, representing Peace and Democracy parliamentary faction is rising to a new level, Azg daily writes.

The Co-Chairman of the “Peace and Democracy” Gulten Kisanak warned the Turkish authorities during the event, organized by the “Democratic Free Women’s Movement”.

The Prime Minister of Turkey has been enjoying the privileges of his office for 8 years. He does not spare efforts to thwart a unilateral ceasefire declared by the PKK. It issued a new statement saying that it considers a ceasefire senseless. Erdogan will be guilty for every drop of blood, she said.

She quoted Turkish Vice Prime Minister Cemil Cicek: “Who are you to bargain with us?”

We will get our rights and will create an autonomous democratic Kurdistan. Cemil Cicek, who are you to stop us? Each day 5 women become victims of violence in the country, Kisinak stressed.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the players and who are the payers?

 

[docmauser1]

But very easy to be an ottomaniacal president nutjob in charge of Turkey with its Israel-centered mideast foreign policy.

The British Queen knighted the 'ottomaniacal president' in Istanbul.
With the Knight Grand Cross he joins people like Reagan and Father Bush.
For you it is 'Sir'.

Cool, now he's Sir Nutjob, indeed.