Axelrod Accuses The GOP Of A Reign Of Terror

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    These people are getting more and more desperate every day.

    On "Meet The Press" this morning David Axelrod accused the GOP of a "Reign Of Terror", and again on CNN with Candy Crowley.

    On CNN he was asked why after Obama promised to address immigration reform in his first year he's now promising to do it in his first year of his second term. Ms Crowley is a strong Obama supporter but even she seem a bit incredulous when Axelrod started going into his list of excuses. http://pushbacknow.net/2012/04/22/r...david-axelrod-and-candy-crowley-focus-on-hate

    Axelrod actually had the unmitigated gall to accuse the GOP of stonewalling it. Fact is, and this is well documented, Obama said back in 09' that he wasn't going to address it til 2011. Well, it's 2012 and he still hasn't addressed it. Fact is he has no intention of addressing it.

    If you remember, John McCain tried to pass it and the Democrats stayed completely out of it. They felt it was better to stay completely away from the issue and let the Republicans take the hit from both sides over it. It's one of the reasons McCain was considered to have zero chance in politics ever again.....and yet he still came back to win the GOP nomination in 08'.

    Axelrod falsely claimed he was in the room when Obama said he would work with the GOP on immigration.......and he says that the GOP refused. The Republicans seem to remember a different answer from Obama.

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    Perhaps President Obama did not address immigration in his first year in office because he spent that year trying to ram Obamacare through.
     
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    Obamacare was done before Summer. He had plenty of time to deal with it......but he instead put it off. He might get hot and heavy on it this Summer because it looks like Axelrod is using it against the GOP.

    Reign of terror....my hairy nut-sack.
     
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    Yeah, I found the phrase "reign of terror" quite over the top. It would be debatable in describing the actual experience of undocumented immigrants, and it seems quite silly as applied to congressional Republicans ("A lot of Republicans in Congress want to cooperate, they know better, but they are in the thralls of this reign of terror from the far right that has dragged this party to the right").

    Still, your characterizations don't seem entirely accurate:

    - Axelrod described Republicans as the victims, rather than the perpetrators, of a "reign of terror". The perpetrators were characterized as the "far right" which presumably has some overlap with the GOP.

    - You suggest that Obama hasn't done anything ("Obama said back in 09' that he wasn't going to address it til 2011" regarding immigration reform since 2009 and that congressional Republicans haven't stonewalled it. In fact, he has continued to push for passage of the DREAM Act, which was filibustered by Senate Republicans (DREAM Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). One could certainly argue either that Obama hasn't done enough or that Republicans were right to oppose his initiatives, but it is inaccurate to claim that Obama has done nothing or that Republicans have blocked nothing.

    - On that note, McCain has voted against the DREAM Act, recanting his previous support and now saying that he wants more enforcement.

    - I'm not sure what meeting Axelrod was referring to when he said he was "in the room", but I don't see how you can claim that his statement was false. Are you saying that congressional Republicans never told Obama to his face that they wouldn't support any of his immigration initiatives?

    - I can't find any evidence that Crowley is an Obama supporter, strong or otherwise.
     
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    “The choice in this election is between an economy that produces a growing middle class and that gives people a chance to get ahead and their kids a chance to get ahead and an economy that continues down the road we’re on.” -- Axelrod admitting Obama's been a disaster
     
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    "http://www.usmessageboard.com/congr...he-rest-of-us-can-pound-sand.html#post3070440"

    "http://www.usmessageboard.com/immig...d-adding-amnesty-measure-to-defense-bill.html"
     
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    Lets just be honest immigration is a political hot potato that neither party really wants to deal with.
     
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    I've watched her enough to come to that conclusion.

    She called Hillary and Obama "Two Titans" back in 08' when they were fighting it out for the nomination. Yes.....I would call her a strong supporter of Democrats in general.

    And Axelrod meant to infer that the GOP was on a Reign of Terror on Meet The Press this morning. It doesn't matter if he's blaming the far-right or simply Republicans. They are all the same to the left, and he knows it.

    Also, Boehner has tried to work with the President and has gotten nothing but lies and wild accusations from him in return. Obama decided that he needed to run on a "Do Nothing Congress" platform last Summer. He isn't about to cooperate with them. Instead he chose to go around them at every opportunity.

    The Dream Act is not a solution to immigration. So McCain voted against it. It promises permanent residency if they serve in the military for 2 years or attend a university. One reason is it doesn't assure that immigrants would even be allowed into the military in the first place. Obama is cutting the military as we speak so it is not a solution. And this bill would cost millions because the only way it would work is if we paid for their education.
     
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    Immigration is not a 'political hot potato'.... illegal immigration is.
     
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