AW ban in NY passing - will gun nuts make good on their threats?

[Chris]

Number of Murders, United States, 2010: 12,996

Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2010: 8,775

Number of Murders, Britain, 2011*: 638
(Since Britain’s population is 1/5 that of US, this is equivalent to 3,095 US murders)

Number of Murders by firearms, Britain, 2011*: 58
(equivalent to 290 US murders)

The international comparisons show conclusively that fewer gun owners per capita produce not only fewer murders by firearm, but fewer murders per capita over all. In the case of Britain, firearms murders are 30 times fewer than in the US per capita.

58 Murders a year by Firearms in Britain, 8,775 in US | Informed Comment

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Go hunt down your english teachers and beat the fuck out of them for not teaching you reading comprehension.

or admit you're a lying douche that doesn't give a fuck about the Constitution.

Are you a member of a well regulated militia? No? Then you get a musket.

The first amendment has more restrictions on it than the 2nd and it doesn't even have 'well regulated' in the text.

I swore a couple of oaths on the Constitution so you can kiss my ass.

That's probably the biggest bull shit statement I've ever seen in my life.

Restrictions on speech

Speech you may not do:
1) you may not lie under oath
2) you may not lie to a federal law enforcement officer if he questions you as part of his job
3) you may not be obscene in public
4) you may not incite a riot, stampede, or other dangerous mob like situation with speech

Speech you must do:
1) if you are called to testify in court, you must answer questions asked - unless they may incriminate you (or your spouse in most cases)
2) depending on the particulars, you may be compelled by law to report knowledge of a felonious crime even if you did not participate
3) you must respond to the census.
4) you must report your income to the IRS


These are just a few examples off the top of my head of how the 1st amendment right to free speech is not an absolute right.

 

[Si modo]

So they are banning assault weapons in New York now.

I'm just curious as to whether the gun nuts in New York will actually make good on their threats to use deadly force to keep government from taking away their guns -


or will they puss out yet again?



N.Y. poised to pass toughest gun law in the nation | NJ.com


Also - what about the rest of you gun nuts? You know if you stand by and do nothing while they take the guns away in NEw York - next it will be California, then Oregon, then 20-30 states later they will get to you and by then - TOO LATE!

Moron. No one is taking guns away. Try to read the links you post, or at least try to comprehend them.

"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island. "And there is no confiscation of weapons, which was at one time being considered.​

[emphasis added]

 

[Katzndogz]

The gun owners in New York will do what the gun owners in San Francisco did. Move. Plenty of people who work in New York now live in New Jersey or Connecticut.

 

[Si modo]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Go hunt down your english teachers and beat the fuck out of them for not teaching you reading comprehension.

or admit you're a lying douche that doesn't give a fuck about the Constitution.

Are you a member of a well regulated militia? No? Then you get a musket.

The first amendment has more restrictions on it than the 2nd and it doesn't even have 'well regulated' in the text.

I swore a couple of oaths on the Constitution so you can kiss my ass.

That's probably the biggest bull shit statement I've ever seen in my life.

And, the pathetic part of it is, I bet she actually believes that.

 

[Ringel05]

Are you a member of a well regulated militia? No? Then you get a musket.

The first amendment has more restrictions on it than the 2nd and it doesn't even have 'well regulated' in the text.

I swore a couple of oaths on the Constitution so you can kiss my ass.

That's probably the biggest bull shit statement I've ever seen in my life.

Restrictions on speech

Speech you may not do:
1) you may not lie under oath
2) you may not lie to a federal law enforcement officer if he questions you as part of his job
3) you may not be obscene in public
4) you may not incite a riot, stampede, or other dangerous mob like situation with speech

Speech you must do:
1) if you are called to testify in court, you must answer questions asked - unless they may incriminate you (or your spouse in most cases)
2) depending on the particulars, you may be compelled by law to report knowledge of a felonious crime even if you did not participate
3) you must respond to the census.
4) you must report your income to the IRS


These are just a few examples off the top of my head of how the 1st amendment right to free speech is not an absolute right.

Never said it was an absolute right...... Try again Skippy.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

This is NY, we react like babies. The shit didn't even happen in our state and Coumo and crew were quick to target law abiding citizens. Meanwhile, in the toughest gun control city in the country, people are still being shot daily.

We already had an assault weapons ban in NY. All this does is further restrict law abiding citizens. It solves nothing.


Pass a balanced budget?
Not in years.

Pass legislation to restrict law abiding citizens?
They can bang that out in a few hours.

Governor Cuomo's been doing pretty good on all fronts..including the budget.

He's been one of the most effective governors in quite some time. A really refreshing change from George Pataki.

Sure, if you ignore that 2 billion dollar "gap".

The state is massively corrupt. But then it's a hardcore blue dog state. So I repeat myself.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

That's probably the biggest bull shit statement I've ever seen in my life.

Restrictions on speech

Speech you may not do:
1) you may not lie under oath
2) you may not lie to a federal law enforcement officer if he questions you as part of his job
3) you may not be obscene in public
4) you may not incite a riot, stampede, or other dangerous mob like situation with speech

Speech you must do:
1) if you are called to testify in court, you must answer questions asked - unless they may incriminate you (or your spouse in most cases)
2) depending on the particulars, you may be compelled by law to report knowledge of a felonious crime even if you did not participate
3) you must respond to the census.
4) you must report your income to the IRS


These are just a few examples off the top of my head of how the 1st amendment right to free speech is not an absolute right.

Never said it was an absolute right...... Try again Skippy.

Never said you said it was.

 

[martybegan]

So they are banning assault weapons in New York now.

I'm just curious as to whether the gun nuts in New York will actually make good on their threats to use deadly force to keep government from taking away their guns -


or will they puss out yet again?



N.Y. poised to pass toughest gun law in the nation | NJ.com


Also - what about the rest of you gun nuts? You know if you stand by and do nothing while they take the guns away in NEw York - next it will be California, then Oregon, then 20-30 states later they will get to you and by then - TOO LATE!

Moron. No one is taking guns away. Try to read the links you post, or at least try to comprehend them.

"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island. "And there is no confiscation of weapons, which was at one time being considered.​

[emphasis added]

What it does is create two classes of citizens, those who can own such weapons because they already did, and those who cannot. So because I did not own one, I can have a spotless background check, no felonies, no mental illness, no orders of protection. But one guy can own one of these, and I cannot. Thus the law does not protect us equally.

 

[Ringel05]

Restrictions on speech

Speech you may not do:
1) you may not lie under oath
2) you may not lie to a federal law enforcement officer if he questions you as part of his job
3) you may not be obscene in public
4) you may not incite a riot, stampede, or other dangerous mob like situation with speech

Speech you must do:
1) if you are called to testify in court, you must answer questions asked - unless they may incriminate you (or your spouse in most cases)
2) depending on the particulars, you may be compelled by law to report knowledge of a felonious crime even if you did not participate
3) you must respond to the census.
4) you must report your income to the IRS


These are just a few examples off the top of my head of how the 1st amendment right to free speech is not an absolute right.

Never said it was an absolute right...... Try again Skippy.

Never said you said it was.

The implication was there.... If that was not your intent then try rewording it.

 

[Si modo]

So they are banning assault weapons in New York now.

I'm just curious as to whether the gun nuts in New York will actually make good on their threats to use deadly force to keep government from taking away their guns -


or will they puss out yet again?



N.Y. poised to pass toughest gun law in the nation | NJ.com


Also - what about the rest of you gun nuts? You know if you stand by and do nothing while they take the guns away in NEw York - next it will be California, then Oregon, then 20-30 states later they will get to you and by then - TOO LATE!

Moron. No one is taking guns away. Try to read the links you post, or at least try to comprehend them.

"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island. "And there is no confiscation of weapons, which was at one time being considered.​

[emphasis added]

What it does is create two classes of citizens, those who can own such weapons because they already did, and those who cannot. So because I did not own one, I can have a spotless background check, no felonies, no mental illness, no orders of protection. But one guy can own one of these, and I cannot. Thus the law does not protect us equally.

Heller won, so we'll see if this gets challenged, too.

 

[Si modo]

Maybe NYPD can send agents to Virginia to do illegal straw purchases of guns here, again?

That would be so cool.

 

[Ringel05]

Moron. No one is taking guns away. Try to read the links you post, or at least try to comprehend them.

"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island. "And there is no confiscation of weapons, which was at one time being considered.​

[emphasis added]

What it does is create two classes of citizens, those who can own such weapons because they already did, and those who cannot. So because I did not own one, I can have a spotless background check, no felonies, no mental illness, no orders of protection. But one guy can own one of these, and I cannot. Thus the law does not protect us equally.

Heller won, so we'll see if this gets challenged, too.

I'd be surprised if this wasn't challenged in court. They may not win, depends on whether or not such a ban can stand up to the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment as a reasonable restriction.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Moron. No one is taking guns away.

I know that. The gun nuts don't. Any regulation of firearms = taking guns away to the gun nuts.

 

[RDD_1210]

Q; What kind of low life douche is happy that Americans have had their rights removed and wants to see people that want to keep their rights killed?


A; A typical run of the mil liberal.


pfft

To think I was once innocent enough to think that just a few liberals were fucked in the head. clearly the majority of them are complete scum.

It is pretty scummy to want to figure out a way to prevent innocent people and children from being mass slaughtered. Great point!

Do you support abortion? Funny how we all have to go by you liberals rules.. It's ok to slaughter babies in the womb but not ok to own a weapon.

^^^^ This is the definition of insanity.. Look at it well.

Since it's not a child until it's born....Didn't realize that a non-viable fetus = a child.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Are you a member of a well regulated militia? No? Then you get a musket.

The first amendment has more restrictions on it than the 2nd and it doesn't even have 'well regulated' in the text.

I swore a couple of oaths on the Constitution so you can kiss my ass.

Same here, and go fuck yourself. You're a disgrace to those oaths.

oh and

Hunt down your American history teacher and get a refund for your parents, b/c clearly he skipped a huge chunk.

Thank you for your service.

No, I'm not a disgrace to the oaths I took, I simply have a different take on it than you do...and last time I checked, the SCOTUS agrees that restrictions on "arms" ARE Constitutional.

at one time it also agreed that women shouldn't vote.

 

[Two Thumbs]

The problem with absolutes...

Guns at Virginia tech
Guns at Columbine
Guns at Fort Hood
Concealed carry in Colorado
Concealed carry in Arizona

Funny that didn't stop someone from killing a bunch of people.

Guns at Virginia tech link showing students are allowed to carry
Guns at Columbine HS, no one gets to carry
Guns at Fort Hood Army base, no one gets to carry except security
Concealed carry in Colorado the theater had a no gun policy
Concealed carry in Arizona If this was for the Senator, it was a crowd of liberals, soooo

but do carry on, you might get 1 out of 5 right.

Virginia tech has its own police force
Columbine armed guards
Fort Hood own police force
Colorado theater - do you have a picture of the sign prohibiting guns?
Arizona public fucking shopping center

You proved that armed security doesn't work.

The theater banning guns is common knowledge. I'll look it up later, time for work

 

[Sallow]

it has always been controlled militatily by the artillery branch of the service. Infrantymen, who typically carry "arms" have never had access to nukes.

an "armament" is another word for weapon in this case, not an "arm"

Arms have been always seen as rifles, pistols, and shotguns. single user weapons.

And why is that?

Point the the clause or section in the Constitution that covers that.

Point to the part of the consitution that says abortion is a protected right, and gay marriage is as well.

All I need is "THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

Dont like it? Try to get rid of it. Until then laws like this are unconsitutional.

You keep quoting half the amendment.

I'm sure that's what you'd like it to say.

But editing it to fit your mindset isn't honest.

 

[g5000]

So they are banning assault weapons in New York now.

I'm just curious as to whether the gun nuts in New York will actually make good on their threats to use deadly force to keep government from taking away their guns -


or will they puss out yet again?



N.Y. poised to pass toughest gun law in the nation | NJ.com


Also - what about the rest of you gun nuts? You know if you stand by and do nothing while they take the guns away in NEw York - next it will be California, then Oregon, then 20-30 states later they will get to you and by then - TOO LATE!

The tough "from my dead, cold hands" talk was based on the mistaken belief this was going to be a gun grab. Just like all the tough talk about Obama's upcoming EOs is.

While they were all busy barricading themselves inside, the real legislation was easily passed.

Makes one wonder if the "gun grab" meme was orchestrated by liberals to make the rubes chase a phantom and thus making the gun control nuts' job easier.

Nah. I think some people are just that dumb they drank the piss, and that piss was poured by right wing demagogues. I just can't decide if the demagogues themselves are stupid, or evil.

Either way, I have no doubt in my military mind that if an actual gun grab law was passed, there would be a whole lotta shootin' going on!

 

[orBeMezaTtnoD]