AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY AT BIRTH - America declines from 5th to 50th in last 60 years

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    In 1950, the US ranked 5th in the world for average life expectancy at birth.
    U.S. Life Expectancy Declines : Discovery News

    According to the 2011 CIA World Factbook, the US currently ranks 50th in the world.

    - 49th Portugal 78.54 2011 est.

    - 50th United States 78.37 2011 est.

    - 51st Taiwan 78.32 2011 est.


    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html

    Just how does allowing the average US life expectancy at birth (a measure of overall quality of life in a country ..... indicating the potential return on investment in human capital) to fall from 5th to 50th in the world, over a span of the last 60 years, contribute to "promote(ing) the general Welfare" that leads to "a more perfect Union?"

    By comparison, these are the average life expectancies of the Axis nations that were defeated in WW2!

    - 5th Japan 82.25 2011 est. (ironically, exactly the same rank the US held in 1950)

    - 10th Italy 81.77 2011 est.

    - 27th Germany 80.07 2011 est.


    Table: U.S. States Ranked by Life Expectancy
     
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    yep, the dumbasses keep eating processed food and drinking unfiltered water. its the new version of natural selection and I am enjoying watching it
     
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    What's the point of the OP? Life expectancy depends on an extremely wide variety of factors: gene pool. crime rate, wars fought in, typical diet, unemployment rate, alcoholism rate, miles driven per year, divorce rate, etc etc etc etc.
     
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    Since our life expectancy has increased about ten years over that time, I would say they are doing a pretty good job at promoting our general welfare.

    Also, this a free country and those who feel they would have a longer life elsewhere are always free to go there and live instead.

    Best of both worlds.
     
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    The average is thrown off by a number of factors.
     
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    Unless you can show that the average age that Americans die at is lower then 1950 your premise is wrong. The proper premise is that other Countries have RAISED their life expectancy.
     
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    Is this like "giving tax cuts to the rich" by not raising their taxes at the same time you don't raise other people's taxes?
     
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    Surely "Patrick2" can't be aguing that the the US is so "exceptional" that it can never be compared with any other country in the world!

    Are the 49 other nations which all currently have average life expectancies exceeding the US somehow exempt from "an extremely wide variety of factors: gene pool. crime rate, wars fought in, typical diet, unemployment rate, alcoholism rate, miles driven per year, divorce rate, etc etc etc etc.?"

    For starters, the 2011 CIA Work FactBook which the last time I looked was a branch of the US federal government, has a whole section on international comparisons and provides most of my data, would certainly disagree

    I'm sure it would be news for the following nations to be told they have nothing to worry about when it comes to gene pool issues, crime, wars, diet problems, unemployment, alcoholism, illegal drugs, driving accidents, divorce, etc, etc, etc, etc. - that these are only problems unique to the US.

    1 Monaco 89.73 2011 est.

    2 Macau 84.41 2011 est.

    3 San Marino 83.01 2011 est.

    4 Andorra 82.43 2011 est.

    5 Japan 82.25 2011 est.

    6 Guernsey 82.16 2011 est.

    7 Singapore 82.14 2011 est.

    8 Hong Kong 82.04 2011 est.

    9 Australia 81.81 2011 est.

    10 Italy 81.77 2011 est.

    11 Jersey 81.38 2011 est.

    12 Canada 81.38 2011 est.

    13 France 81.19 2011 est.

    14 Spain 81.17 2011 est.

    15 Switzerland 81.07 2011 est.

    16 Sweden 81.07 2011 est.

    17 Israel 80.96 2011 est.

    18 Iceland 80.90 2011 est.

    19 Anguilla 80.87 2011 est.

    20 Bermuda 80.71 2011 est.

    21 Cayman Islands 80.68 2011 est.

    22 Isle of Man 80.64 2011 est.

    23 New Zealand 80.59 2011 est.

    24 Liechtenstein 80.31 2011 est.

    25 Norway 80.20 2011 est.

    26 Ireland 80.19 2011 est.

    27 Germany 80.07 2011 est.

    28 United Kingdom 80.05 2011 est.

    29 Jordan 80.05 2011 est.

    30 Greece 79.92 2011 est.

    31 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 79.87 2011 est.

    32 Austria 79.78 2011 est.

    33 Faroe Islands 79.72 2011 est.

    34 Malta 79.72 2011 est.

    35 Netherlands 79.68 2011 est.

    36 Luxembourg 79.61 2011 est.

    37 Belgium 79.51 2011 est.

    38 Virgin Islands 79.33 2011 est.

    39 Finland 79.27 2011 est.

    40 Turks and Caicos Islands 79.11 2011 est.

    41 Korea, South 79.05 2011 est.

    42 Wallis and Futuna 78.98 2011 est.

    43 Puerto Rico 78.92 2011 est.

    44 European Union 78.82 2010 est.

    45 Bosnia and Herzegovina 78.81 2011 est.

    46 Saint Helena, Ascension, and Tristan da Cunha 78.76 2011 est.

    47 Gibraltar 78.68 2011 est.

    48 Denmark 78.63 2011 est.

    49 Portugal 78.54 2011 est.

    50 United States 78.37 2011 est.


    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html
     
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