Aus women becoming single mothers, can't fine perfect men

[Againsheila]

I think I am planning a trip to Australia minus the wife and kids!

"The biggest cheaters in Sydney are women" - top PI

My company opened a HUGE business in Australia. I am going to do some serious butt kissing the Next global team meeting in March and get the fast track on job out there!

There are a few countries I would consider living in other than US, Australia is 1 or 2 on the list. This was prior to learning about the man drought

If I every left the US (not going to happen) here is my list in order to where I would like to go:
(1) Australia (I already know the language, great economy, great weather, great people and great country)
(2) Canada (Great country, great economy great people, close to the US for visits home, but the weather sucks)
(3) Israel (I would have to learn another language, but the economy is great, the people are great and it would be easy for me to get citizenship; oh yea the weather is top notch)
(4) New Zealand (see Australia)
(5) Britian (Wouldn't have to learn a new language, but the job market is tough and it's uber expensive over there)
(6) Costa Rica (Would have to learn Spanish, which I am starting. Has some good opportunities for skilled foreigners. Very low cost of living. Low crime rate. Decent healthcare system. Amazing weather)
(7) Mexico (My parents are snowbirds and I have been there a few times. Not as dangerous as advertised. Mexicans don't resent Americans like what is advertised. There are many GREAT opportunities for Gringos americanos que hablan Español!)

You really need to check their immigration laws. Most of those countries you mentioned, you aren't getting in there unless you already have enough money to live off of for the rest of your life. Heck you can't get into New Zealand unless you have a doctorate. Don't know about Costa Rica, they weren't on my list when I was looking for places to emigrate. Oh, and as for Australia, you can't be over 40.

 

[mudwhistle]

More Victorian women choosing to be single mothers | theage.com.au

Yeah I'm sure these women are perfect themselves , right?

Seems to me having children out of wedlock is a recipe for poverty.

Maybe Socialism allows them to do this without starving to death.

 

[Againsheila]

More Victorian women choosing to be single mothers | theage.com.au

Yeah I'm sure these women are perfect themselves , right?

Seems to me having children out of wedlock is a recipe for poverty.

Maybe Socialism allows them to do this without starving to death.

Poverty is not the problem. Not having a father is the problem. Kids raised without a father do worse on every measurable level than children raised with two parents in the home, according to an article I read several years ago. It's even worse if there is no father figure in the extended family and even worse if there is no father figure in the neighborhood.

 

[Noomi]

I don't believe that crap for a second.

 

[bianco]

I don't believe that crap for a second.

The experts seem to be saying that it is all totally true.
Trying to get more male primary school teachers...etc

 

[bianco]

Aus women becoming single mothers, can't fine perfect men

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Trouble is...the women seem to be looking for "Mr Darcy"..."tall, dark, and handsome[read 'drop-dead gorgeous'] with a large income"...which was the top response in a survey by a leading women's magazine several years ago...as the readers' ideal male partner.
'Shorter, light, and not so handsome, with an average income' was down the list.

 

[Againsheila]

I don't believe that crap for a second.

Not surprised in the least!

 

[bianco]

Then there's 'Lulu';

'Lulu' was shown on my tv tonite;

New mobile app Lulu lets women rate their men friends (and exes) in areas like sex and appearance - NY Daily News

New mobile app Lulu lets women rate their men friends (and exes) in areas like sex and appearance
Founded by Alison Schwartz and Alexandra Chong, the app started with a conversation among women; some men find it offensive while others love it and have joined the complementary app LuluDude.

If he tells you he’s great in the sack, why not consult with some previous customers and see if they were, well, satisfied.

The mobile app Lulu lets women do just that — giving ex-girlfriends, old hookups and female pals the power to anonymously rate any guy in their social network. And in the six months since its launch, Lulu has come to dominate sorority gab-fests, brunch banter and cocktail hours across the city, resulting in tears, jeers, and downright hysterics for the guys unwittingly reviewed.

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Lulu: The Worst App for Women, by Women | Sam Ressler


Confession: I have no self-control. So when told about an app that might give me access to shamelessly stalk any and all of my exes with the false pretense of gaining insight into their lives (sans me), naturally I jumped at the opportunity. What transpired was a visceral reaction to one of the most jaw-dropping, stomach-curling, rosacea-inducing, sad Internet moments of my adult life.

 

[Esmeralda]

The article says they are holding out for the perfect mate. Are they themselves perfect? Does perfect exist?

THE ARTICLE says "perfect mate." What are the women saying? It's more likely they just haven't met the right man for them and at 40 can't wait any longer to have a family. Men can start families all the way up into their 80s and beyond. Women can't do that.

There are plenty of men who just don't worry about it until very late in life; women don't have that option.

Is it a good idea to marry someone, even though he isn't the right one for you, so you can have a family? Is it fair for women to go through life without being mothers? Personally, in that situation, my first choice would be adoption, but most people prefer to have a biological child.

 

[Againsheila]

The article says they are holding out for the perfect mate. Are they themselves perfect? Does perfect exist?

THE ARTICLE says "perfect mate." What are the women saying? It's more likely they just haven't met the right man for them and at 40 can't wait any longer to have a family. Men can start families all the way up into their 80s and beyond. Women can't do that.

There are plenty of men who just don't worry about it until very late in life; women don't have that option.

Is it a good idea to marry someone, even though he isn't the right one for you, so you can have a family? Is it fair for women to go through life without being mothers? Personally, in that situation, my first choice would be adoption, but most people prefer to have a biological child.

The truth is there is no "perfect" mate. Marriage takes work and people just aren't willing to do the work today. Sad for the kids because they are the ones who lose out, not having two parents. I've been married for 32 years now. It hasn't always been easy and it's getting worse quickly. My husband has parkinsons. Some of today's women would have left him already after all, he isn't "perfect.". Then again, neither am I. I can't believe how few people actually know what a marriage is. What it takes to stay together through thick and thin, threw good times and especially the bad times. I like the elderly couple that was asked how they managed to stay married so long and she said, "Well, when we grew up, if something was broken, you fixed it, you didn't throw it away!"

And now you have the people who won't even try at all.....

BTW, I have no problems with a woman who hasn't found the right man adopting a child. One parent is better than no parent. My problem is with the women who think they don't have to get married to have a kid, they can just get pregnant and then send the father the child support bill.

 

[Esmeralda]

Aus women becoming single mothers, can't fine perfect men

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Trouble is...the women seem to be looking for "Mr Darcy"..."tall, dark, and handsome[read 'drop-dead gorgeous'] with a large income"...which was the top response in a survey by a leading women's magazine several years ago...as the readers' ideal male partner.
'Shorter, light, and not so handsome, with an average income' was down the list.

Absolute nonsense. A good man is hard to find: always was, always will be. In the past, women often settled for what they could get instead of being spinsters. They don't have to do that nowadays. They still want to be mothers and raise their children. We no longer make women choose between a childless spinsterhoood and a loveless marriage. If more men were better men, or more men were interested in marrying earlier, instead of waiting and then marrying younger women, we'd have less of a problem. A sinlge woman without children, one who didn't choose that path, is a very sad thing indeed. Who are you or anyone to condemn women to such a path?

 

[Esmeralda]

The article says they are holding out for the perfect mate. Are they themselves perfect? Does perfect exist?

THE ARTICLE says "perfect mate." What are the women saying? It's more likely they just haven't met the right man for them and at 40 can't wait any longer to have a family. Men can start families all the way up into their 80s and beyond. Women can't do that.

There are plenty of men who just don't worry about it until very late in life; women don't have that option.

Is it a good idea to marry someone, even though he isn't the right one for you, so you can have a family? Is it fair for women to go through life without being mothers? Personally, in that situation, my first choice would be adoption, but most people prefer to have a biological child.

The truth is there is no "perfect" mate. Marriage takes work and people just aren't willing to do the work today. Sad for the kids because they are the ones who lose out, not having two parents. I've been married for 32 years now. It hasn't always been easy and it's getting worse quickly. My husband has parkinsons. Some of today's women would have left him already after all, he isn't "perfect.". Then again, neither am I. I can't believe how few people actually know what a marriage is. What it takes to stay together through thick and thin, threw good times and especially the bad times. I like the elderly couple that was asked how they managed to stay married so long and she said, "Well, when we grew up, if something was broken, you fixed it, you didn't throw it away!"

And now you have the people who won't even try at all.....

BTW, I have no problems with a woman who hasn't found the right man adopting a child. One parent is better than no parent. My problem is with the women who think they don't have to get married to have a kid, they can just get pregnant and then send the father the child support bill.

I tried to make it a point to point out that it is the article that is saying these women are waiting for the 'perfect' man. Are the women actually saying or doing this? Not likely. They are waiting for the right man. In the old days, that lead to spinsterhood, so many women compromised and married just for the sake of being married and having children. Women should not have to do that, but to have a child, they cannot wait forever.

As far as artifical insemination by an donor:, normally there should be no way for the women to later sue for child support. Both parties sign contracts. The father is not responsible for the child, by contract, by law, if the procedure is done with a reputable sperm bank and appropriate contracts are signed. It would be ridiculous otherwise. Some men could be held reponsible for 10 or 20 kids. Makes no sense.

 

[bianco]

Aus women becoming single mothers, can't fine perfect men

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Trouble is...the women seem to be looking for "Mr Darcy"..."tall, dark, and handsome[read 'drop-dead gorgeous'] with a large income"...which was the top response in a survey by a leading women's magazine several years ago...as the readers' ideal male partner.
'Shorter, light, and not so handsome, with an average income' was down the list.

Absolute nonsense. A good man is hard to find: always was, always will be. In the past, women often settled for what they could get instead of being spinsters. They don't have to do that nowadays. They still want to be mothers and raise their children. We no longer make women choose between a childless spinsterhoood and a loveless marriage. If more men were better men, or more men were interested in marrying earlier, instead of waiting and then marrying younger women, we'd have less of a problem. A sinlge woman without children, one who didn't choose that path, is a very sad thing indeed. Who are you or anyone to condemn women to such a path?

What I posted about the women's mag survey is correct.
And women are holding out for "Mr Darcy", seems to me.

A good woman is hard to find these days, I would not like to be looking.

Men can't marry earlier, as they're still expected to pay for and provide most everything....house, cars, etc.

 

[High_Gravity]

It isn't perfect. They aren't looking for perfect. That's an excuse. The reality is, they can't be bothered with putting up with the needs of another person. They aren't looking for a man, but an android that can be shut off and put in the closet when necessary.

Exactly.

 

[High_Gravity]

More Victorian women choosing to be single mothers | theage.com.au

Yeah I'm sure these women are perfect themselves , right?

I will one day be one of them. I don't want a partner to raise my child, I intend to do it all myself.

If that is your intention, do you expect or will you demand child support?

It' ignorant to think you don't want a man to have any say or part of your child's life, but that he should pay for the child and many times the mother's life style!

They all say they don't need a man, yet the child support papers keep printing out so fast they sting your fingers when you touch them.

 

[High_Gravity]

The article says they are holding out for the perfect mate. Are they themselves perfect? Does perfect exist?

THE ARTICLE says "perfect mate." What are the women saying? It's more likely they just haven't met the right man for them and at 40 can't wait any longer to have a family. Men can start families all the way up into their 80s and beyond. Women can't do that.

There are plenty of men who just don't worry about it until very late in life; women don't have that option.

Is it a good idea to marry someone, even though he isn't the right one for you, so you can have a family? Is it fair for women to go through life without being mothers? Personally, in that situation, my first choice would be adoption, but most people prefer to have a biological child.

The truth is there is no "perfect" mate. Marriage takes work and people just aren't willing to do the work today. Sad for the kids because they are the ones who lose out, not having two parents. I've been married for 32 years now. It hasn't always been easy and it's getting worse quickly. My husband has parkinsons. Some of today's women would have left him already after all, he isn't "perfect.". Then again, neither am I. I can't believe how few people actually know what a marriage is. What it takes to stay together through thick and thin, threw good times and especially the bad times. I like the elderly couple that was asked how they managed to stay married so long and she said, "Well, when we grew up, if something was broken, you fixed it, you didn't throw it away!"

And now you have the people who won't even try at all.....

BTW, I have no problems with a woman who hasn't found the right man adopting a child. One parent is better than no parent. My problem is with the women who think they don't have to get married to have a kid, they can just get pregnant and then send the father the child support bill.

The problem is nobody wants to work for anything anymore, they want everything fast, easy and accomodating. That goes for relationships and pretty much everything else.

 

[High_Gravity]

"The biggest cheaters in Sydney are women" - top PI

My company opened a HUGE business in Australia. I am going to do some serious butt kissing the Next global team meeting in March and get the fast track on job out there!

There are a few countries I would consider living in other than US, Australia is 1 or 2 on the list. This was prior to learning about the man drought

If I every left the US (not going to happen) here is my list in order to where I would like to go:
(1) Australia (I already know the language, great economy, great weather, great people and great country)
(2) Canada (Great country, great economy great people, close to the US for visits home, but the weather sucks)
(3) Israel (I would have to learn another language, but the economy is great, the people are great and it would be easy for me to get citizenship; oh yea the weather is top notch)
(4) New Zealand (see Australia)
(5) Britian (Wouldn't have to learn a new language, but the job market is tough and it's uber expensive over there)
(6) Costa Rica (Would have to learn Spanish, which I am starting. Has some good opportunities for skilled foreigners. Very low cost of living. Low crime rate. Decent healthcare system. Amazing weather)
(7) Mexico (My parents are snowbirds and I have been there a few times. Not as dangerous as advertised. Mexicans don't resent Americans like what is advertised. There are many GREAT opportunities for Gringos americanos que hablan Español!)

You really need to check their immigration laws. Most of those countries you mentioned, you aren't getting in there unless you already have enough money to live off of for the rest of your life. Heck you can't get into New Zealand unless you have a doctorate. Don't know about Costa Rica, they weren't on my list when I was looking for places to emigrate. Oh, and as for Australia, you can't be over 40.

How come those countries get to be so picky about their immigrants and it just seems that we accept any tom, dick and harry? we get people from Mexico and Afghanistan with no job skills except for sweeping and minding a broom closet smgdh.

 

[GHook93]

"The biggest cheaters in Sydney are women" - top PI

My company opened a HUGE business in Australia. I am going to do some serious butt kissing the Next global team meeting in March and get the fast track on job out there!

There are a few countries I would consider living in other than US, Australia is 1 or 2 on the list. This was prior to learning about the man drought

If I every left the US (not going to happen) here is my list in order to where I would like to go:
(1) Australia (I already know the language, great economy, great weather, great people and great country)
(2) Canada (Great country, great economy great people, close to the US for visits home, but the weather sucks)
(3) Israel (I would have to learn another language, but the economy is great, the people are great and it would be easy for me to get citizenship; oh yea the weather is top notch)
(4) New Zealand (see Australia)
(5) Britian (Wouldn't have to learn a new language, but the job market is tough and it's uber expensive over there)
(6) Costa Rica (Would have to learn Spanish, which I am starting. Has some good opportunities for skilled foreigners. Very low cost of living. Low crime rate. Decent healthcare system. Amazing weather)
(7) Mexico (My parents are snowbirds and I have been there a few times. Not as dangerous as advertised. Mexicans don't resent Americans like what is advertised. There are many GREAT opportunities for Gringos americanos que hablan Español!)

You really need to check their immigration laws. Most of those countries you mentioned, you aren't getting in there unless you already have enough money to live off of for the rest of your life. Heck you can't get into New Zealand unless you have a doctorate. Don't know about Costa Rica, they weren't on my list when I was looking for places to emigrate. Oh, and as for Australia, you can't be over 40.

I have a doctorate! Of course countries that one would want to immigrate to have strict immigration laws.

In Australia's case, my company would sponsor me and I could easily get a visa if hired for the positions they have open. Becoming a citizen might be hard, but then again I don't believe in dual citizenship and would NEVER give up my American citizenship. NEVER!