Attitudes: So what else is new?

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    "There's a huge groundswell of dissatisfaction with
    ______________________ [fill in blank]."


    "There's a huge grass roots movement toward
    defeating the ____________________ policies which
    are ruining this country."


    "Throw the bums out!"


    "We're gonna take our party back starting with the
    mid-term elections!"


    "Our way or the highway is the ________________'s
    brand of conducting the business of Washington."

    "______________________'s are FASCISTS!"


    "______________________'s act like NAZIS!"


    "We the People are demanding change in the way
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    Welcome to the world of politics as I've known it over the last 15 years.
     
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    Must suck that after a single year all your crowing about the Republicans being done for the next 40 years is not true. Only took one YEAR of your buddy Obama to get people into hating him and the Democrats.
     
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    Large numbers of folks disagree fundamentally with large numbers of other folks. It was true back in the days of Pericles, and I hope it goes on forever. It makes things exciting, especially when there are people with interesting things to say who can say it well on both sides.

    The problems arise not from the yelling back and forth (i get to do my fair share!) but when someone imposes THE VIEW from their aerie in the Kremlin, or from Berchtesgarden, for from Pyongyang or Saddam's palace de jour. Freedom of thought leads to better thought, mostly from all that friction generating enough heat that light emerges. The fact I can call you on your stupid and you can call me on mine means that stupid is caught and stopped, and smart stuff sort of escapes the yelling and actually winds up as public policy.
     
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    Yes, thanks to the Republican strategy to just say no to everything. And don't fool yourself that it was NOT their secret strategy no matter how much grandstanding they've done that they "want to work with the Democrats." It's worked out well. Republicans are so much better at riling up controversy than Democrats are. They know how to get headlines which inevitably trump the fact-checkers whose information takes a bit longer to read.
     
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    Remind me again how 40 Republican Senators stopped anything in the Senate? How 170 Republican Representatives stopped anything in a 435 member House? I won't wait.
     
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    Sometimes NO is the right answer. It doesn't have to be a "secret strategy." It is inherent just in the nature of how the different parties see things.

    As far as I am concerned, NO is the right answer for most of Obama's agenda. YMMV. That is the nature of politics, and opposing views.
     
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    Because Democrats never do vote as a block. Never have and never will.
     
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    And Republicans do?
    I will say Obama has proven to be a uniter. He has managed to unite the Republican Party against him. And that includes such trimmers as Olympia Snowe and Collins. Those two would cross the street to vote for a Democratic bill outlawing the GOP in the interests of bipartisanship. And even they are saying no to Democratic left wing policies. Remarkable.
     
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    I agree that it's the nature of politics, which was my initial point. But I don't think for one moment that the current batch of Republicans in leadership positions haven't been intending to replicate Newt Gingrich's 1994 plan to overturn Democratic control and eventually oust President Clinton. Newt's strategy was "any defeat for the opposition is a victory for us." Gingrich (and Dick Armey) figured that if they could beat down Clinton's health care reform, they could stop the Democrats in their tracks and rise to power again. And it worked. That is precisely the strategy that Republicans are following today. They intend to return to power by denying Obama any successes and as many big defeats as possible, regardless of any merits that might actually benefit the people of the country.
     

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