Athiests Lie, The Bible Tells the Truth

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Weatherman2020, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. The Irish Ram
    Offline

    The Irish Ram LITTLE GIRL / Ram Tough

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    14,810
    Thanks Received:
    3,537
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    diagonally parked in a parallel universe
    Ratings:
    +14,483
    I didn't claim the wind was supernatural. I said it can't be seen, yet exists. In the same manner the poster had never seen a giant, so has trouble believing there were giants.
    You want supernatural, Christ returned from the dead. There ya go....
     
  2. The Irish Ram
    Offline

    The Irish Ram LITTLE GIRL / Ram Tough

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    14,810
    Thanks Received:
    3,537
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    diagonally parked in a parallel universe
    Ratings:
    +14,483
    Still you. How many did Paul convert using the sword? Peter? Jesus? How many swords have you spotted in our churches, and how do preachers get those heathens to church so they can be converted by sword?
     
  3. Grumblenuts
    Offline

    Grumblenuts Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2017
    Messages:
    553
    Thanks Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    58
    Ratings:
    +176
    And I didn't claim you did, but never let facts or logic stop you.
    No, I don't. But you clearly do, which may explain the major difference between us well. I demand evidence . Being satisfied to believe in magic instead seems your all too common and human failing.
     
  4. The Irish Ram
    Offline

    The Irish Ram LITTLE GIRL / Ram Tough

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    14,810
    Thanks Received:
    3,537
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    diagonally parked in a parallel universe
    Ratings:
    +14,483
    The difference between us is not a problem. If you call it magic that told us Israel would become a nation in a day, then good for magic, as "magic" prophesied correctly. That the Jews would resume their ancient language with no other displaced peoples ever doing so, and nailed it, then trust the magician. "Magic" told me Russia will be invading Israel allied with Israel's surrounding enemies, let's see if Magic nails it again.. Prophecy is your evidence. You can't do it. Magic can.

    Thing is, If I am wrong about a Heavenly Father and eternal life, when I die I have lost nothing. If you are wrong, you have lost everything. < That is human stupidity.
     
  5. MarcATL
    Offline

    MarcATL Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2009
    Messages:
    18,738
    Thanks Received:
    2,921
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +6,910
    Don't let rightwing self-proclaimed Christians chase you away from the love of Christ.

    He spoke about them too.

    He said that there will come a day when people will say "but didn't we speak in your name?" and He will say, "No, when I was sick, and needed clothing, you chased me away."

    Look at what America is doing and stands for today, white cruelty.

    America is the ONE nation on earth that CLAIMS to be a Christian nation.

    Prophesy is being fulfilled.

    The Bible tells us there will be a great weeping, and wailing and gnashing of teeth!

    Why? Because many self-proclaimers will get the SHOCK of their lives when that great day comes.

    bodecea Get to know who Jesus is, for yourself, it's not what the self-proclaimers portray, far, far, far from it.
     
  6. MarcATL
    Offline

    MarcATL Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2009
    Messages:
    18,738
    Thanks Received:
    2,921
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +6,910
    I'm glad you brought up Constantine bodecea, did you realize he was a nominal Christian? That means he really wasn't. He was actually Pagan.

    He's on of the main people responsible for mixing the current Pagan practices w/Christianity...that affects the world still today.

    The main change is trying to change God's Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday...yep, that was done by Mr. Constantine, look it up.

    And guess which day most professed Christians worship on today...Sunday.

    The Bible is there for all to read to know what God said, I would highly recommend you read it.

    Even if just a verse a day, it will change your life.

    God is good.
     
  7. MarcATL
    Offline

    MarcATL Gold Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2009
    Messages:
    18,738
    Thanks Received:
    2,921
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +6,910
    No, but they can certainly try.

    Isn't there a set percentage in American society that would love to have The Ten Commandmants (that they can't even follow, BTW) posted up on governmental buildings, and want to see prayer (read Christian prayer) in public schools?

    Isn't that force?
     
  8. Grumblenuts
    Offline

    Grumblenuts Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2017
    Messages:
    553
    Thanks Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    58
    Ratings:
    +176
    Not for me anyways.
    I call that a straw man argument and deliberate distraction.
    Okay, let's analyze that. Four cases to consider actually:
    We're both right. Some "Heavenly Father and eternal life" exists for you, not for me. Neither of us is ever aware when it matters so, oh well, who cares?
    We're both wrong. There's no "Heavenly Father" nor "eternal life", but there is something supernatural. Oh well.
    You're right and I'm wrong. There's "a Heavenly Father and eternal life" which you presumably benefit from somehow while I just become worm food as fully expected, remaining blissfully unaware of the difference - 'cause I'm dead. Oh well.
    I'm right and you're wrong. There's no "Heavenly Father" nor "eternal life" and you've wasted your entire life believing in and annoying others with your fairy tale nonsense, and possibly doing much worse to others, confident that all (your "sins") would be forgiven in the end due your religious belief. Oh well. Sucks to be you. Human stupidity indeed.
     
  9. Meriweather
    Offline

    Meriweather Not all who wander are lost

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2014
    Messages:
    3,882
    Thanks Received:
    399
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Ratings:
    +1,171
    A life pursuing the ideals and striving to love one another in lieu of sin is wasted? Largely due to my beliefs I have had (for the most part) a joyous life, and a peaceful one. God or no God, striving for ideals in any situation one finds oneself makes for a life worth living, not a wasted one.
     
  10. ding
    Offline

    ding Confront reality

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    40,821
    Thanks Received:
    1,784
    Trophy Points:
    1,855
    Ratings:
    +15,698
    Which contradictions would that be?
     

Share This Page