CDZ At what point do you stop giving someone the benefit of the doubt?

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At what point do you stop giving someone the benefit of the doubt re: a given matter?

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  1. Upon finding that every factual, abstract and contextual element causing doubt has been eradicated

  2. Upon finding evidence the person has paltered in some material way about the matter in question

  3. Upon finding evidence the person has paltered in a minor way about the matter in questions

  4. Upon finding evidence the person has been materially wrong re: "facts" they cite

  5. Upon finding evidence the person has been materially wrong re: the context of something they cite

  6. Upon learning the person is often disingenuous, dissembling, paltering and/or prevaricating

  7. I don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt

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  1. Xelor
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    Xelor Gold Member

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    Pretty straightforward question...Answer by voting in the poll or by offering your own explication.
     
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    emilynghiem Constitutionalist / Universalist Supporting Member

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    To treat people unconditionally,
    you can't depend on whether they are telling the truth or not, or you will be disappointed.
    It's best to leave yourself an out, in case something goes wrong or changes.
    That is closest to "never giving anyone the benefit of the doubt"
    ie don't ASSUME either way. But it is also like giving everyone room for doubt.

    Trusting nobody to be 100% consistent because nobody is.
    But trusting people to do what they feel is best at the time,
    putting their interests and convenience first. Accepting and working with that.
     
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    waltky Wise ol' monkey Supporting Member

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    Uncle Ferd wantin' to know...

    ... what's paltering?
     
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    I trust people to be honest and truthful until they show a pattern of lying and/or deceptive actions. Fortunately I can count on one hand the people who earned complete distrust.
     
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    It's like screwing wit sumtum...
     
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    It depends on the person how well I know them and their past if a person has a proven history of acting a certain way I'm less likely to give them the benefit of the doubt if they don't I'm more likely to there is no set pattern ever situation will be different.
     
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    Until they have nothing but fallacy.
     
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    On this board, I don’t give anyone the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    What if the person "comes out of the gate" uttering fallacious lines of argumentation?
     
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    I definitely have no people in my life whom I distrust to the point that I cannot accord them the benefit of the doubt. As for people of whom I know of, rather than knowing personally, well, there're more untrustworthy folks than I can shake a stick at.
     

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