Assange influenced by "American libertarianism, market libertarianism"

I might take issue with his comment that "a free market ends up as monopoly unless you force them to be free" depending on what he meant by that remark, but exposing the state for what it is, a lying criminal organization, is certainly a good thing.

I'm not going to say that what he is doing is right or wrong, but I will say that our government was never meant to be so secretive, corrupt, and powerful like it has become.
 
That..in no way gives him the right to put up unfiltered stolen classified material.

I am all for whistle blowers...and people who ferret out hidden crimes..but I am not for anyone putting lives at risk to grandstand.

What Manning did was not 'whistle blowing', it was treason.

Swallow doesn't know the difference.

Poser bi-sexual wanna be porn star that you are..

You still ain't getting a "swallow"..sorry dude..don't swing that way.

But have yourself a beer.
 
That..in no way gives him the right to put up unfiltered stolen classified material.

I am all for whistle blowers...and people who ferret out hidden crimes..but I am not for anyone putting lives at risk to grandstand.

What Manning did was not 'whistle blowing', it was treason.

Swallow doesn't know the difference.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - U.S. Constitution, Article 3, Section 3

Apparently you don't know the difference. Manning didn't levy war against the U.S., therefore is not guilty of treason.
 
Good thing he hasn't put any lives at risk then.

Sure he has. Iraqis that cooperated with American forces.

Where?

I read that some of the clear text emails from the military included names of Iraqi translators and others. Additionally there are names of service people in those emails. That's not as bad. But the Iraqis..man..that ridiculous.

In any case..putting up un-filtered clear text of classified material..without conferring with anyone is just plain irresponsible.
 
Sure he has. Iraqis that cooperated with American forces.

Where?

I read that some of the clear text emails from the military included names of Iraqi translators and others. Additionally there are names of service people in those emails. That's not as bad. But the Iraqis..man..that ridiculous.

In any case..putting up un-filtered clear text of classified material..without conferring with anyone is just plain irresponsible.

But did you see the actual names yourself?
 
You're not a libertarian because you believe in the efficacy of state coercion.

Telling me what I believe makes you look stupid as well as naive.

You're a statist. That's why you're mad at WikiLeaks. They showed the U.S. state for what it is, a criminal organization. So you want to label the people at WikiLeaks criminals because they exposed the truth rather than look at the real criminals.

I'm angry at anyone who puts my life - the lives of Americans outside the US, our troops, and Americans generally, in danger. I guess I'm just patriotic like that. I care about my country, and its citizens.

We don't do anything that other countries don't do. And they do it for good reason - you're just too blinkered and narrow minded to understand those reasons. This information was stolen - and it was classified information. The criminals are the ones who stole it, and who used it for their own gain. You think Manning is some kind of hero. I call him a traitor to his country. You think Assange is interested in some 'greater good', I think he's a money grabbing self publicist and egomanic.

You're a fool.
 
I'm a libertarian, but I have enough expertise in politics and history to understand that a free market ends up as monopoly unless you force them to be free.

He is a libertarian with a streak of reality.

Unfettered markets lead to disaster

Let's break this post down and see how much sense it makes...

He says that a free market ends up as a monopoly UNLESS you force it to be FREE.

How you inferred that he is saying the market should be fettered there is beyond me. He's saying it should be UNFETTERED, otherwise it leads to monopoly.
 
What Manning did was not 'whistle blowing', it was treason.

Swallow doesn't know the difference.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - U.S. Constitution, Article 3, Section 3

Apparently you don't know the difference. Manning didn't levy war against the U.S., therefore is not guilty of treason.

Just being technically not guilty of the crime, doesn't make him less of a traitor. And he sure as hell isn't a 'whistle blower'.

The crime he committed puts Americans at greater risk. With 'Americans' like him, who needs enemies. The man is scum.
 
Telling me what I believe makes you look stupid as well as naive.

You're a statist. That's why you're mad at WikiLeaks. They showed the U.S. state for what it is, a criminal organization. So you want to label the people at WikiLeaks criminals because they exposed the truth rather than look at the real criminals.

I'm angry at anyone who puts my life - the lives of Americans outside the US, our troops, and Americans generally, in danger. I guess I'm just patriotic like that. I care about my country, and its citizens.

We don't do anything that other countries don't do. And they do it for good reason - you're just too blinkered and narrow minded to understand those reasons. This information was stolen - and it was classified information. The criminals are the ones who stole it, and who used it for their own gain. You think Manning is some kind of hero. I call him a traitor to his country. You think Assange is interested in some 'greater good', I think he's a money grabbing self publicist and egomanic.

You're a fool.

How is your life in danger because of WikiLeaks? Are you named in some of the leaked files? I doubt it seriously. As for the troops being in danger, the U.S. government is responsible for that. Bring them home where they belong and they're no longer in danger.

"They do it too" isn't justification for illegal activities.

You're a statist.
 
Swallow doesn't know the difference.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - U.S. Constitution, Article 3, Section 3

Apparently you don't know the difference. Manning didn't levy war against the U.S., therefore is not guilty of treason.

Just being technically not guilty of the crime, doesn't make him less of a traitor. And he sure as hell isn't a 'whistle blower'.

The crime he committed puts Americans at greater risk. With 'Americans' like him, who needs enemies. The man is scum.

Actually, not being technically a traitor does mean that he's not a traitor.

You keep saying he put Americans at risk. Are you hoping that if you say it enough you'll convince us that it's true?
 
This Administration has not proven these leaks have endangered anyone's life. It's just another lie. Just like the troops in Afghanistan being "Endangered" if one loon in some backwater nowhere place burns some Korans. It's all misdirection Bull Shit. Just read a report that shows the CIA was ordered to spy on UN Leaders as well. These Wikileaks were just very embarrassing for this White House and especially Hillary Clinton. They cannot charge this Assange guy with anything. He likely didn't do anything illegal. It's all just a big misdirection magic trick coming from this White House. That's my take anyway.
 

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