CDZ Ask Me About Marxism

[The Sage of Main Street]

I can't give you all the answers, but I'd like to discuss people's objections to it, as well as why I still believe it's a worthwhile philosophy. Not looking to change minds so much as to have an exchange of an ideas. Or at least provide an understanding of how I and most Marxists I know think about politics, the damage done to the idea of Communism by the USSR and governments like it, economics, etc.

Don't Believe Anything You're Told About This by the Twin "Sides"

Since you've rejected the Limousine Liberals, it might be possible for you to see through the Rolls Royce Radicals' scam also.

After the aristocracy deservedly got guillotined during the French Revolution, many HeirHeads thought that their anointed-at-birth regime was doomed. Though others became reactionary, believing that even more intense and absolute Birth-Class Supremacy was the answer, the doomsayers suggested that the best way to continue their Born to Rule delusion was to take over the rising democratic movements. They counted on the former peasants' own delusion about "richkids on our side." (This was exactly the same as today's Trailer-Park Republicans, which the Left recognizes as self-destructive stupidity, being in denial about its own origins.)

Socialists even admit that many of their leaders were born in the upper class, but they double-down on that by saying that richkids have even more to give up than the underprivileged, so they can't be selfish. But Leftist utopian messianic ideology is designed to appeal to the power-hungry; the spoiled brats see that and make sure they become dictators when they get into power, more than they ever could under modern Capitalism, which concedes some democratic elements. There were no unions in the Soviet Union.

 

[alang1216]

Was the specific explanation I offered on how the fed killed capitalism not correct, in your view? If not, then, why not?

To repeat: A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank. It's not capitalism when the system is plagued with incomprehensible rules regarding mergers, acquisitions, and stock sales, along with wage controls, price controls, protectionism, corporate subsidies, international management of trade, complex and punishing corporate taxes, privileged government contracts to the military-industrial complex, and a foreign policy controlled by corporate interests and overseas investments. Add to this centralized federal mismanagement of farming, education, medicine, insurance, banking and welfare.

This is not capitalism!

Tell me where I'm wrong in offering the accurate assessment which I did, please. Does the government not do these things which have been offered? Thanks.

I admit it, I was too lazy to respond since not a single sentence in the snippet is correct.

Take the first one "A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank", this is silly. Fiat money is really the blessing of capitalism. You can carry your gold to the market place to buy your bread but if you wanted to engage in international trade it quickly becomes impossible.

I believe the Venetians invented double-entry bookkeeping, no money needed, just entries in a set of books.

Double-entry book-keeping is “one of the greatest advances in the history of business and commerce,” declares Ms Gleeson-White. She argues that this process of recording profit and loss helped spawn the empiricism of the Renaissance and enhanced the momentum of capitalism.
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Every other sentence is similarly incorrect.

 

[flacaltenn]

There is no evidence that capitalism exists today.

Free markets are the solution to reintroducing fundamental capitalism.

Was there ever a time or place with 'fundamental capitalism'? If we reintroduce it will it not fail again?

Capitalism works better when the govt isn't creating bubbles or picking winners/losers in the marketplace. We are a HELL of long way from Free Markets. Repubs/Dems TALK a lot of govt/collusion, but it's that collusion that gives incumbent politicians an assured career. Things like that need to END. NOTHING should be subsidized that already exists as a commodity product or service. If the govt funds Tech, it should be by MARKET SEGMENT and not specific companies. Those things INHIBIT competition are fundamentally corrupt and unnecessarily increases the corruption factor.

Marxism and it's derivatives have NO CONCEPT of competition or risk. Thus totally inhibiting innovation, and getting the BEST deal for consumers.

 

[anotherlife]

Ask me about marxism? Okay, here is a question. One of the most important keywords of Marxism is the "the people", or "the public" in modern usage.

Most new laws in Europe are written with the justification for this "the public".

In the Soviet Union, when people were released from the gulags, they got tattooed on the head "enemy of the people", "enemy of the public".

Are those times slowly creeping back in to rule unsuspecting people again? But this time in Western Europe, and using super computers for closer control?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I can't give you all the answers, but I'd like to discuss people's objections to it, as well as why I still believe it's a worthwhile philosophy. Not looking to change minds so much as to have an exchange of an ideas. Or at least provide an understanding of how I and most Marxists I know think about politics, the damage done to the idea of Communism by the USSR and governments like it, economics, etc.

Good thing you joined us....and not a moment too soon.
You have so much to learn.



"5 Things Marx Wanted to Abolish (Besides Private Property)
1. The Family

2. Individuality

3. Eternal Truths

4. Nations

5. The Past"

5 Things Marx Wanted to Abolish (Besides Private Property) | Jon Miltimore

 

[regent]

What nations on this earth practiced Marxian communism?

 

[Tehon]

What nations on this earth practiced Marxian communism?

Not one.

 

[Votto]

What nations on this earth practiced Marxian communism?

Not one.

Fakers!

 

[PoliticalChic]

What nations on this earth practiced Marxian communism?

Every one of these is an iteration of Marx/Hegel doctrine:
Communism
Socialism
Liberalism
Nazism
Fascism
Progressivism


You don't have to be a moron your entire life....take a day off.

 

[Tehon]

What nations on this earth practiced Marxian communism?

Not one.

Fakers!

It's easy enough to do when the population is uneducated.

 

[Votto]

What nations on this earth practiced Marxian communism?

Not one.

Fakers!

It's easy enough to do when the population is uneducated.

The average world IQ is around 86.

You can't fix stupid which is why states like Venezuela exists and why Bernie wants to turn the US into Venezuela.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I can't give you all the answers, but I'd like to discuss people's objections to it, as well as why I still believe it's a worthwhile philosophy. Not looking to change minds so much as to have an exchange of an ideas. Or at least provide an understanding of how I and most Marxists I know think about politics, the damage done to the idea of Communism by the USSR and governments like it, economics, etc.

So how do you celebrate November 7 in respect to hundreds of millions of victims of your worthwhile philosophy