As of today

[amrchaos]

I certainly understand where you're coming from, but I won't allow myself NOT to vote. By doing that, I become part of the problem. I have an obligation to myself and my family to make a choice. It may not be the choice I want, but it will be the best choice given the options I'm handed.

If you don't like either candidate, a write-in vote is the proper response, much better than not voting. A write-in vote will not win, but it sends a strong message that you don't like the candidates. If you don't like the parties candidates, you won't provide financial support and they are every bit as interested in that as they are your vote. Also a large write-in vote can be a precursor to the rise of a third party.

I typically vote on principal in primaries where it can possibly count. When it comes to actual elections, writing a name in might send a message, but it might also allow a candidate I do NOT want to get elected. If all I have is a choice between two evils, I will choose the lesser every time. To not do so is an act against my own interests.

It is also possible that a person you do not want to get elected will win anyway.

So vote your consciousness, not your fear. That is the only way you can get what you want.

 

[zeke]

The game is rigged, both parties are equally bought off and they take orders from the super rich and super powerful, neither gives a damn about the average joe. They both have the same goals, to get your money and to make you submissive and obedient.

It's not worth my 5 minutes of voting to give either candidate the gratification of winning my vote, even if it is just one

vote.


I say plutocracy. However, because the ruling class still pretends that they care and lets me vote, I do. Every single time they let me.

I think the candidates, while serving the same masters, some candidates have plans that will be more harmful to me than others.

For instance, I think Obama is more reluctant to go to war than Mitt. Makes no difference to either if we go to war because their kids are not gonna serve. But mine could. Or my friends kids. There fore Obama.

Mitt is more than likely to cut the taxes on the rich while cutting benes for me and mine.
Obama seems more reluctant to do that. Obama.

My ability to insure myself and my kids got easier with Obama. Under Mitt, who knows.
Obama.

On and on. The one that intends me the least harm is the one that gets my vote. Buy voting, and paying taxes, I feel that I have earned the right to bitch about the plutocracy.

 

[Dr.Drock]

The game is rigged, both parties are equally bought off and they take orders from the super rich and super powerful, neither gives a damn about the average joe. They both have the same goals, to get your money and to make you submissive and obedient.

It's not worth my 5 minutes of voting to give either candidate the gratification of winning my vote, even if it is just one

vote.


I say plutocracy. However, because the ruling class still pretends that they care and lets me vote, I do. Every single time they let me.

I think the candidates, while serving the same masters, some candidates have plans that will be more harmful to me than others.

For instance, I think Obama is more reluctant to go to war than Mitt. Makes no difference to either if we go to war because their kids are not gonna serve. But mine could. Or my friends kids. There fore Obama.

Mitt is more than likely to cut the taxes on the rich while cutting benes for me and mine.
Obama seems more reluctant to do that. Obama.

My ability to insure myself and my kids got easier with Obama. Under Mitt, who knows.
Obama.

On and on. The one that intends me the least harm is the one that gets my vote. Buy voting, and paying taxes, I feel that I have earned the right to bitch about the plutocracy.

Obama is a big time warmonger, all the threats to Iran and trying to muscle them, and he's attacked and dropped bombs in about half dozen middle eastern/african countries. Romney, like Obama, has no desire to scale down the "war on terror."

Obama has already continued the Bush tax cuts, even with almost nothing but dems in Congress he continued them. So will Romney.

Not sure how it's been easier for you to get insurance. But one thing I'm certain of is Obama and Romney are working for the drug, insurance and other healthcare companies that line their pockets. Not us.

Obama doesn't give a shit about you, neither does Romney. Obama is a puppet who's just reacting to which strings are being pulled.

 

[Flopper]

I certainly understand where you're coming from, but I won't allow myself NOT to vote. By doing that, I become part of the problem. I have an obligation to myself and my family to make a choice. It may not be the choice I want, but it will be the best choice given the options I'm handed.

If you don't like either candidate, a write-in vote is the proper response, much better than not voting. A write-in vote will not win, but it sends a strong message that you don't like the candidates. If you don't like the parties candidates, you won't provide financial support and they are every bit as interested in that as they are your vote. Also a large write-in vote can be a precursor to the rise of a third party.

I typically vote on principal in primaries where it can possibly count. When it comes to actual elections, writing a name in might send a message, but it might also allow a candidate I do NOT want to get elected. If all I have is a choice between two evils, I will choose the lesser every time. To not do so is an act against my own interests.

I understand your point. When you believe one candidate is so bad that he makes the other candidate seem good by comparison, then of course you should vote for the lesser of two evils. However if you believe both candidates are bad choices and one candidate is no better than the other, then you should vote for neither and consider a write-in.

 

[The Rabbi]

This poll is so far to the right of national polls it shows just how far to the right this board is.

I'm not sure it is so far right as much as it is anti-incumbent. In this poll/thread; it manifests itself as support for Romney since the question is who would you vote for. I think if you were to really pry into the overwhelmingly right-wing response, you'd find that maybe 5 of the 41 votes as of this writing are for Romney and 36 are anti-Obama.

Yah.......asking everyone who they would actually vote for is unfair for liberals.

It misses the fraudulent and illegal votes. That puts the Dums at a disadvantage.

 

[zeke]

When you live in a plutocracy and in all likelihood I will never enter into the world of the 1%, I think you only have one play. To vote for someone.

Once they get Internet voting for national elections, votes will become worthless. You will never know if your vote was registered and counted as you placed it. Partake in an old, honored way before you can't. Vote.

 

[WillowTree]

looks like obummer is losing handily..

 

[WillowTree]

I heard the same media frenzy about how we had to elect Bush to undo the fiscally liberal things Clinton did, and things just got way more liberal fiscally. I won't fall for it this time.

I certainly understand where you're coming from, but I won't allow myself NOT to vote. By doing that, I become part of the problem. I have an obligation to myself and my family to make a choice. It may not be the choice I want, but it will be the best choice given the options I'm handed.

If you don't like either candidate, a write-in vote is the proper response, much better than not voting. A write-in vote will not win, but it sends a strong message that you don't like the candidates. If you don't like the parties candidates, you won't provide financial support and they are every bit as interested in that as they are your vote. Also a large write-in vote can be a precursor to the rise of a third party.

bullshit

 

[kwc57]

If you don't like either candidate, a write-in vote is the proper response, much better than not voting. A write-in vote will not win, but it sends a strong message that you don't like the candidates. If you don't like the parties candidates, you won't provide financial support and they are every bit as interested in that as they are your vote. Also a large write-in vote can be a precursor to the rise of a third party.

I typically vote on principal in primaries where it can possibly count. When it comes to actual elections, writing a name in might send a message, but it might also allow a candidate I do NOT want to get elected. If all I have is a choice between two evils, I will choose the lesser every time. To not do so is an act against my own interests.

It is also possible that a person you do not want to get elected will win anyway.

So vote your consciousness, not your fear. That is the only way you can get what you want.

True, they might......but it won't be because I didn't vote for their opposition. It isn't voting out of fear. It's voting for the best possible outcome from the choices available. Voting your conscious for a sure loser is a vote wasted when their is a lot riding on the outcome. Everyone has their personal threshold. There are times when I will indeed "do the right thing". But there are times when I know doing so has no other impact other than to make me feel good and I vote for the best possible outcome in a bad situation I'm going to have to live with for four years. I would rather live in a nation with Romney as president than I would Obama. At the end of the day, that is the choice that has to be made. For my respected friend Dr. Drock, he sees no difference. I do.

 

[kwc57]

The game is rigged, both parties are equally bought off and they take orders from the super rich and super powerful, neither gives a damn about the average joe. They both have the same goals, to get your money and to make you submissive and obedient.

It's not worth my 5 minutes of voting to give either candidate the gratification of winning my vote, even if it is just one

vote.


I say plutocracy. However, because the ruling class still pretends that they care and lets me vote, I do. Every single time they let me.

I think the candidates, while serving the same masters, some candidates have plans that will be more harmful to me than others.

For instance, I think Obama is more reluctant to go to war than Mitt. Makes no difference to either if we go to war because their kids are not gonna serve. But mine could. Or my friends kids. There fore Obama.

Mitt is more than likely to cut the taxes on the rich while cutting benes for me and mine.
Obama seems more reluctant to do that. Obama.

My ability to insure myself and my kids got easier with Obama. Under Mitt, who knows.
Obama.

On and on. The one that intends me the least harm is the one that gets my vote. Buy voting, and paying taxes, I feel that I have earned the right to bitch about the plutocracy.

Seriously? If SCOTUS doesn't knock Obamacare down, you are going to be in for one hell of a middle class butt raping when it kicks in. Obama doesn't care about helping the litle guy, he justs wants more of the wealthy guys money to fund his programs and disguises that as looking out for you.

 

[asaratis]

The game is rigged, both parties are equally bought off and they take orders from the super rich and super powerful, neither gives a damn about the average joe. They both have the same goals, to get your money and to make you submissive and obedient.

It's not worth my 5 minutes of voting to give either candidate the gratification of winning my vote, even if it is just one

vote.


I say plutocracy. However, because the ruling class still pretends that they care and lets me vote, I do. Every single time they let me.

I think the candidates, while serving the same masters, some candidates have plans that will be more harmful to me than others.

For instance, I think Obama is more reluctant to go to war than Mitt. Makes no difference to either if we go to war because their kids are not gonna serve. But mine could. Or my friends kids. There fore Obama.

Mitt is more than likely to cut the taxes on the rich while cutting benes for me and mine.
Obama seems more reluctant to do that. Obama.

My ability to insure myself and my kids got easier with Obama. Under Mitt, who knows.
Obama.

On and on. The one that intends me the least harm is the one that gets my vote. Buy voting, and paying taxes, I feel that I have earned the right to bitch about the plutocracy.

Seriously? If SCOTUS doesn't knock Obamacare down, you are going to be in for one hell of a middle class butt raping when it kicks in. Obama doesn't care about helping the litle guy, he justs wants more of the wealthy guys money to fund his programs and disguises that as looking out for you.

Obama's goal is to bankrupt the USA, cause chaos, equalize us with those destitute European countries that have already tried socialism.

Obama is a goddamned Marxist. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.

 

[Dr.Drock]

vote.


I say plutocracy. However, because the ruling class still pretends that they care and lets me vote, I do. Every single time they let me.

I think the candidates, while serving the same masters, some candidates have plans that will be more harmful to me than others.

For instance, I think Obama is more reluctant to go to war than Mitt. Makes no difference to either if we go to war because their kids are not gonna serve. But mine could. Or my friends kids. There fore Obama.

Mitt is more than likely to cut the taxes on the rich while cutting benes for me and mine.
Obama seems more reluctant to do that. Obama.

My ability to insure myself and my kids got easier with Obama. Under Mitt, who knows.
Obama.

On and on. The one that intends me the least harm is the one that gets my vote. Buy voting, and paying taxes, I feel that I have earned the right to bitch about the plutocracy.

Seriously? If SCOTUS doesn't knock Obamacare down, you are going to be in for one hell of a middle class butt raping when it kicks in. Obama doesn't care about helping the litle guy, he justs wants more of the wealthy guys money to fund his programs and disguises that as looking out for you.

Obama's goal is to bankrupt the USA, cause chaos, equalize us with those destitute European countries that have already tried socialism.

Obama is a goddamned Marxist. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.

A vote for Paul is as much a vote for Romney as it is Obama.

Paul is a small gov't fiscal conservative. Romney and Obama are both big gov't fiscally liberal fascists. Paul is the opposite of both of them.

 

[candycorn]

This poll is so far to the right of national polls it shows just how far to the right this board is.

I'm not sure it is so far right as much as it is anti-incumbent. In this poll/thread; it manifests itself as support for Romney since the question is who would you vote for. I think if you were to really pry into the overwhelmingly right-wing response, you'd find that maybe 5 of the 41 votes as of this writing are for Romney and 36 are anti-Obama.

Yah.......asking everyone who they would actually vote for is unfair for liberals.

Grumps called him a "shitty" choice. So Grumps is a liberal?



















Why so bitter?

 

[candycorn]

This poll is so far to the right of national polls it shows just how far to the right this board is.

I'm not sure it is so far right as much as it is anti-incumbent. In this poll/thread; it manifests itself as support for Romney since the question is who would you vote for. I think if you were to really pry into the overwhelmingly right-wing response, you'd find that maybe 5 of the 41 votes as of this writing are for Romney and 36 are anti-Obama.

And in real life, the election WILL BE about Obama's record......and he will be fired for incompetence.

I'd issue the same challenge to you that I have issued to all other conservatives if I thought you'd entertain it. Obama will get 300+ Electoral Votes if he doesn't go on a gaffe-fest this Summer.

 

[kwc57]

I'm not sure it is so far right as much as it is anti-incumbent. In this poll/thread; it manifests itself as support for Romney since the question is who would you vote for. I think if you were to really pry into the overwhelmingly right-wing response, you'd find that maybe 5 of the 41 votes as of this writing are for Romney and 36 are anti-Obama.

And in real life, the election WILL BE about Obama's record......and he will be fired for incompetence.

I'd issue the same challenge to you that I have issued to all other conservatives if I thought you'd entertain it. Obama will get 300+ Electoral Votes if he doesn't go on a gaffe-fest this Summer.

Up until now, Obama has had it easy while he got to sit back and watch the Republican candidates jocky for position. That changes now. He will try to obfuscate and change the narrative, but he will be forced at every turn to defend his record.......and it's a loser. He will try to stay away from it as much as possible, but it will hang around his neck like an anchor. Make no mistake, the media will do their best to ignore his record and assist his campaign, but the truth is the truth.