Artists: Another 'Entitlement' Group

[Wicked Jester]

GOOD'UN. Naw. Really.

No, I missed no point.

The fact that it's Federally Funded ALWAYS, no matter if it's Obama or whomever, means that it's reasonable to assume that some random fucking artists happened to like Obama and made art of it, regardless of money. Assuming what you're assuming here is conspiratorial, serves nothing, and makes you seem bitter.

Have you not heard the conference calls between the NEA higher ups, and those artists?

 

[sitarro]

"Art" is a matter of perspective. We're not all supposed to have the same.

The lack of perspective that comes from no knowledge about the true talent and expertise it takes to produce great art work, is a waste of time. Who gives a shit what the ignorant think. The NEA grants are given by those that can't do and are given to those that don't have a clue.

 

[G.T.]

The lack of perspective that comes from no knowledge about the true talent and expertise it takes to produce great art work, is a waste of time. Who gives a shit what the ignorant think. The NEA grants are given by those that can't do and are given to those that don't have a clue.

That pompass, elitist attitude about "what art is" is the very antithesis OF art. But carry on with the ranting, it's cool.

 

[sitarro]

The lack of perspective that comes from no knowledge about the true talent and expertise it takes to produce great art work, is a waste of time. Who gives a shit what the ignorant think. The NEA grants are given by those that can't do and are given to those that don't have a clue.

That pompass, elitist attitude about "what art is" is the very antithesis OF art. But carry on with the ranting, it's cool.

Yea, you know......sure. Please don't kick my ass.

 

[G.T.]

Does not compute.

 

[sitarro]

The lack of perspective that comes from no knowledge about the true talent and expertise it takes to produce great art work, is a waste of time. Who gives a shit what the ignorant think. The NEA grants are given by those that can't do and are given to those that don't have a clue.

That pompass, elitist attitude about "what art is" is the very antithesis OF art. But carry on with the ranting, it's cool.

I bet you think that anyone with a point and shoot camera is a photographer too. Please don't kick my ass......... please.

 

[G.T.]

I bet you think that anyone with a point and shoot camera is a photographer too. Please don't kick my ass......... please.

I don't arbitrarily kick ass, no worries random internet message board name Sitarro.

 

[KittenKoder]

The title is misleading. It's not the artists doing this, it's the politicians. It is fucked up though.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Funny. If I wanted funding to create "Piss Christ" and put it in a pubic museum the NEA would be all over it. If I wanted funding to create a Crucifix and put it in a public museum the ACLU would be all over it.

 

[sitarro]

I bet you think that anyone with a point and shoot camera is a photographer too. Please don't kick my ass......... please.

I don't arbitrarily kick ass, no worries random internet message board name Sitarro.

You really like the word random, don't you?

 

[G.T.]

You really like the word random, don't you?

It's not a bad word. I also like other words, such as (but not limited to):

Scully.
Bauss. (read: Boss)
Gooch.
Phantom.
Relevance.
Sasquatch.
Plethora.
Maaables. (read:Marbles)
Johnson.
Section-8.
Frollop. (is this even a word?).

 

[Bfgrn]

Robert Frost said:

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

"The men who create power make an indispensable contribution to the Nation's greatness, but the men who question power make a contribution just as indispensable, especially when that questioning is disinterested, for they determine whether we use power or power uses us.

Our national strength matters, but the spirit which informs and controls our strength matters just as much. This was the special significance of Robert Frost. He brought an unsparing instinct for reality to bear on the platitudes and pieties of society. His sense of the human tragedy fortified him against self-deception and easy consolation. "I have been" he wrote, "one acquainted with the night." And because he knew the midnight as well as the high noon, because he understood the ordeal as well as the triumph of the human spirit, he gave his age strength with which to overcome despair. At bottom, he held a deep faith in the spirit of man, and it is hardly an accident that Robert Frost coupled poetry and power, for he saw poetry as the means of saving power from itself. When power leads men towards arrogance, poetry reminds him of his limitations. When power narrows the areas of man's concern, poetry reminds him of the richness and diversity of his existence. When power corrupts, poetry cleanses. For art establishes the basic human truth which must serve as the touchstone of our judgment.

The artist, however faithful to his personal vision of reality, becomes the last champion of the individual mind and sensibility against an intrusive society and an officious state. The great artist is thus a solitary figure. He has, as Frost said, a lover's quarrel with the world. In pursuing his perceptions of reality, he must often sail against the currents of his time. This is not a popular role. If Robert Frost was much honored in his lifetime, it was because a good many preferred to ignore his darker truths. Yet in retrospect, we see how the artist's fidelity has strengthened the fibre of our national life.

If sometimes our great artist have been the most critical of our society, it is because their sensitivity and their concern for justice, which must motivate any true artist, makes him aware that our Nation falls short of its highest potential. I see little of more importance to the future of our country and our civilization than full recognition of the place of the artist."

I look forward to a great future for America, a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose. I look forward to an America which will not be afraid of grace and beauty, which will protect the beauty of our natural environment, which will preserve the great old American houses and squares and parks of our national past, and which will build handsome and balanced cities for our future.

I look forward to an America which will reward achievement in the arts as we reward achievement in business or statecraft. I look forward to an America which will steadily raise the standards of artistic accomplishment and which will steadily enlarge cultural opportunities for all of our citizens. And I look forward to an America which commands respect throughout the world not only for its strength but for its civilization as well. And I look forward to a world which will be safe not only for democracy and diversity but also for personal distinction.

Robert Frost was often skeptical about projects for human improvement, yet I do not think he would disdain this hope. As he wrote during the uncertain days of the Second War:

Take human nature altogether since time began . . .
And it must be a little more in favor of man,
Say a fraction of one percent at the very least . . .
Our hold on this planet wouldn't have so increased.

Remarks at Amherst College - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset+Tree/Asset+Viewers/Audio+Video+Asset+Viewer.htm?guid={1A2D7FE7-F005-4FBF-AA09-06FD96FEAFC3}&type=Audio

 

[Bfgrn]

"If art is to nourish the roots of our culture, society must set the artist free to follow his vision wherever it takes him. We must never forget that art is not a form of propaganda; it is a form of truth. And as Mr. MacLeish once remarked of poets, there is nothing worse for our trade than to be in style. In free society art is not a weapon and it does not belong to the spheres of polemic and ideology. Artists are not engineers of the soul. It may be different elsewhere. But democratic society--in it, the highest duty of the writer, the composer, the artist is to remain true to himself and to let the chips fall where they may. In serving his vision of the truth, the artist best serves his nation. And the nation which disdains the mission of art invites the fate of Robert Frost's hired man, the fate of having 'nothing to look backward to with pride, and nothing to look forward to with hope.'"

President John F. Kennedy
Remarks at Amherst College
Amherst, Massachusetts
October 26, 1963

 

[veritas]

You're getting mad at inane things here. If Bush also funded them, it doesn't matter what art they created, the funding itself is what's kind of goofy, in my eyes, in-terms of what to use our tax dollars on.

You're hatin' on the player, instead of the game. That fixes nothing.

I think you are missing the point......we have the makings of an actual PROPAGANDA MACHINE here.....

....using the NEA (National Endowment of the Arts).....a FEDERAL AGENCY.....which is being directed by the Administration to create pro-Obama agenda art work...

They will never get it.
Christ, the majority of the lib's on this thread are showing support for our tax paying dollars going to an organization that was caught having a willingness to aid a supposed pimp and prostitute in carrying out the disgusting crimes of abusing and exploiting children.
They're whacked in the head, nothing more. They are the main reason as to why liberals can never be trusted.
Debating with them is akin to debating with pissants. They're stupid. They don't understand. They just go through life with one single mission, filling themselves with as much piss as they can!

You know what's amazingly ironic about that? When the ACORN woman chose an "occupation" for Ms. Prostitute and Mr. Pimp, she chose Artist, performer, dancer........she was pretty damn close to the mark.......should have been actor.......but still very very close. Legally, I think the point is moot because of it.